The Sun Proves The Flat Earth Deception

This website exposes the flat earth deception and proves that the earth is globe shaped.

This page shows shows that the Sun proves the globe earth, not the flat earth.

The predictive power of Globe Geometry

This video demonstrates the degree of accuracy that tools such as Google Earth and Suncalc display.

The predictive power of Globe Math and Geometry always matches perfectly to results in the real world.  The Flat Earth Society has nothing even close.

The path of the 08/21/17 solar eclipse across the United States, is impossible on the flat earth model.

We can clearly see that the path of the eclipse across the United States, cannot match up with the circular path of the flat earth sun.

The path of the 08/21/17 solar eclipse across the United States, is impossible on the flat earth model.

Here’s the scientific explanation of how a solar eclipse occurs on the globe earth.

Here's the scientific explanation of how a solar eclipse occurs on the globe earth.

There is no scientific explanation for the solar eclipse on the flat earth model.

Like the moon, the sun does not work on the flat earth model either.

A flat earth sun cannot shine up to illuminate under local clouds

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The sun cannot work properly on the flat earth model.

In order for the sun to circle the flat earth in 24 hours, it would have to increase and decrease its speed.

In order for the sun to circle the flat earth in 24 hours, it would have to increase and decrease its speed.

There is no explanation for how the sun would increase and decrease its speed on the flat earth model.

When the sun is circling the Equator on the Equinoxes, it would be traveling at 1,037 MPH.

This means that it would only take 2 hours and 35 minutes to span the United States; but we can see the sun overhead for much longer than that; and we can see the sun take 12 hours to cross the sky from sunrise to sunset.

The flat earth sun would span the United States in 2 Hours 35 minutes; which does not match up with what we see

The sun cannot rise due east and set due west on the flat earth model, on the day of Equilux.

The sun circles over the Equator on the Spring and Fall Equinoxes.   The day of Equilux is the day on which there is 12 hours of daytime and 12 hours of nighttime.  On the day of Equilux, the sun rises due east and sets due west.

The sun cannot rise due east or set due west on the flat earth model

This simply is not possible on the flat earth model, as the sun would be much further north at those times.

Total solar eclipses cannot be explained on the flat earth model.

The pattern of the upcoming total solar eclipse on 08/21/17 can be explained with the globe Earth, but not on the supposed flat earth model.  Given that the sun and moon supposedly travel in a circular orbit 3,000 miles above the flat earth, how would the sun be eclipsed?

Solar Eclipse August 21, 2017 proves globe earth

The pattern of the upcoming total solar eclipse on 04/08/24 can be explained with the globe Earth, but not on the supposed flat earth model.  Note how the path of the eclipse is opposite of the previous one.

Solar Eclipse April 8, 2024 proves globe earth The pattern of the upcoming total solar eclipse on 08/21/17 can be explained with the globe Earth, but not on the supposed flat earth model.

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Proof that the size of the sun does not change.

Nikon P900 with Orion Solar Filter – seeing the true size of the Sun correctly.

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Flat Earth Sun Graphic Invalidates Flat Earth Theory

Click on the image to see an animated graphic, which shows how the flat earth sun would appear.

Flat Earth sun model disproves the flat earth theory

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Flat Earth perspective expectation vs reality – The size of the Sun.

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This graphic of the sun and moon rotating above the flat earth looks cool, but this is not what we see when you look at the sun and the moon.

Flat earth sun doesn't work properly

Let’s look at the location the sun from the east coast of the United States of America.

In the morning, when the sun is lighting up the east coast, the sun is not due East, but rather it is about 20 degrees North.

Flat earth sunrise, noon and sunset, over east coast

At noon, the sun is now directly South.  And then at sunset, the sun is not due West, but rather it is about 20 degrees North.

Is that really what we witness?  Do we see the sun rise in the Northeast, then move to due South position, and then move to the Northwest by sunset?  No!

Let’s look at the location of the moon at sunset to see the relationship.

During the new moon phase, the moon is close to the sun in the western sky at sunset, and we don’t see any light on the moon.

Each day the moon ends up 12.2 degrees further away from the sun.

7 days after the dark conjunction, we see the 1/2 moon directly overhead at sunset.

14 days later the full moon is across the sky from the sunset, 180 degrees away from it.

The flat earth model has no way to show how the sun and moon move so closely together during the dark conjunction phase.

If they are on the same circular path as shown in the flat earth image, they would run into each other.

If they are on separate paths, where is that explanation on this supposed flat earth map?

In this example the sun cannot rise in the Southeast horizon of Sydney during winter, as on the flat earth map it is in the Tropic of Capricorn, which is North of Sydney.

The flat earth model sun does not work, as angles for sunrise and sunset are wrong

In this example the sun cannot rise in due east of Sydney during spring and fall, as on the flat earth map it is at the Equator, which is North of Sydney.

The flat earth sun rise and set points are wrong on the flat earth model

In this example the sun cannot rise and set at the proper points, as on the flat earth map it is in the Tropic of Cancer, which is far North of Sydney.

The flat earth model sun does not work, as angles for sunrise and sunset are wrong

It is impossible that a Sun that is 3,000 miles above the flat earth would disappear at the horizon point, and then 90 minutes later, it would have no influence over the land.

That is only possible on a curved earth where the rays of the Sun are blocked out.

Astronomers define the three stages of twilight – civil (less than 6 degrees below the horizon), nautical (between 6 degrees and 12 degrees below the horizon), and astronomical (between 12 degrees and 18 degrees below the horizon) – on the basis of the Sun’s elevation which is the angle that the geometric center of the Sun makes with the horizon.

On flat earth Sun would become smaller based on perspective.

But the sun is far away, and does not become smaller.

How can it be daylight in Ca at 10pm eastern time? If the Sun is 3,000 miles above us, on the flat earth, it would still illuminate the east coast.

Psalms 104:22  The sun arises – they withdraw And lie down in their dens.

Scripture does not say that the Sun will go across the earth, it says it will rise and go down.  It can only go down on a globe earth, not a flat earth.

31 down, 14 rise

FE An airplane flying at the same altitude across the sky does not rise or fall, it simply goes from one horizon point over us in a straight line to the end horizon point.

The Sun does not act this way.  It clearly rises and sets.  It is not going away and getting smaller like the Jet.  It stays the same size.

Take picture of sun rising, sun overhead and sun setting, using single focal point camera.

Bible verse say that the sun goes down, not away.

90 minutes after the sun goes over the horizon, it can not be dark on a flat earth.

Flat earth proponents say that the Sun is 3,000 miles above the earth.  If that is true, then it is impossible for the Sun to move far enough away during the next 90 minutes for it to be dark.

90 minutes after the sun goes down on the globe earth, the rays are hidden behind the earth, so that it is dark.

Dusk times hide the Suns rays, proving the globe earth

Civil twilight occurs when the Sun is less than 6 degrees below the horizon. In the morning, civil twilight begins when the Sun is 6 degrees below the horizon and ends at sunrise. In the evening, it begins at sunset and ends when the Sun reaches 6 degrees below the horizon.

Civil dawn is the moment when the geometric center of the Sun is 6 degrees below the horizon in the morning.

Civil dusk is the moment when the geometrical center of the Sun is 6 degrees below the horizon in the evening.

Astronomical twilight occurs when the Sun is between 12 degrees and 18 degrees below the horizon.

Astronomical dawn is the time when the geometric center of the Sun is at 18 degrees below the horizon. Before this time, the sky is absolutely dark.

Astronomical dusk is the instant when the geographical center of the Sun is at 18 degrees below the horizon. After this point, the sky is no longer illuminated.

A completely dark sky is impossible 90 minutes after the sun disappears over the horizon, on the flat earth model!

Goofy flat earth explanations about the Sun:

Sun hot spot

Sun rays through clouds

IMAGE – Sun distance.

They post images that seem to show clouds behind the Sun, saying that it proves that the Sun in not millions of miles away.

But they claim that the Sun is 3,000 miles away, which would mean that the clouds are more than 3,000 miles away, which is absurd.

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The Sun’s changing 90 degree angle proves the globe earth

On December 21st at noon, the sun will be at 90 degrees above the horizon at spot along 23.44 degrees south of the equator or along the line known as the Tropic of Capricorn. This is as far south as that 90 degree position of the sun, at noon, ever goes.

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At that point, the sun’s 90 degree mark of solar noon will move north and continue doing so until June 21st. On March 20th, it will cross the equator and on June 21st it will mark its furthest north point along the Tropic of Cancer which is 23.44 degrees north of the equator.

These 90 degree marks are only possible on a globe.

These geographical variations in the sun’s angle above the horizon also account for the major geographical variations in earth’s climates. The arctic and antarctic regions are almost always cold—even in the summer when they get 24 hours of sunlight a day—because the sun’s angle above the horizon is never very high. And the tropics are almost always warm—even though they never get much more than 12 hours of sunlight in a day—because the mid-day sun is always so high in the sky.

The intermediate latitudes, which generally have hot summers and cool or cold winters, are called the temperate zones. The north temperate zone lies between the Tropic of Cancer and the Arctic Circle, while the south temperate zone (where the seasons are reversed) lies between the Tropic of Capricorn and the Antarctic Circle.

Goofy flat earth explanations about the Sun:

The Sun is like a spotlight

Thomas Aquinas, Summa Theologiae, First Part of the Second Part, Question 54: The distinction of habits, Article 2, Reply to objection 2. And in First Part, Question 67, Thomas made it clear that he knew the shape of the earth, because he used the word hemisphere, meaning half of a sphere: “Yet as soon as the sun is at the horizon, the whole hemisphere is illuminated from end to end. … Secondly, as to place, for in one hemisphere there was light, in the other darkness. Thirdly, as to time; because there was light for one and darkness for another in the same hemisphere; and this is signified by the words, “He called the light day, and the darkness night.”

Pictures of the Sun clearly show that it cannot act like a spotlight.

Flat-earthers proclaim that the Sun is not millions of miles away, which may be true. They use images like this to supposedly prove it.

Flat earth sun closer to earth

The base of the triangle is only a few miles wide, and the other sides are shorter, so that means that the Sun is only a few miles above the Earth, which in turn seem preposterous.

Flat earth explanations places the sun a few miles above earth

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This photo is obviously photoshopped to create a supposed hot spot from the Sun.  If that was true, fires would be started all around the world.

Flat earth Sun hot spot image

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Paul Vale August 25, 2017 at 8:57 pm

One other thing the flat earthers cannot explain is the spherical sun shining in all directions as clearly observed when sunspots transit suface.

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Out there December 10, 2017 at 10:02 pm

Hi

I only started looking into flat earth this last year so its still new to me, I’m no scientist but can understand enough, been a globe believer my whole life of course but do see compelling evidence which has made me question things I took for granted, though I still need many answered before concluding on one way or the other. The geocentric model also does seem to provide a possible alternative of both as well but as yet have not looked into this and this is an assumption. I do believe there is an agenda on both sides,so I come with respect and the desire to converse on the matter without name calling and threats. Isn’t it awful how people speak to each other knowing they are safe from retaliation? I’m sure most wouldn’t dare face to face! Anyway, I’ll get to my queries.

I have seen other versions from FE people (NOT the FE society of whom I steer clear)of the sun’s path over the currently presented flat earth map. It seems to be quite complex and moves more from one side to the other over the course of a year, rather than staying circling in the center as you have presented. The moon also did something similar but at a slower rate to explain the lunar cycles. It also suggested the moon was slightly lower than the sun to explain solar eclipses. The paths they create are like those Spiro graphs that kids use to make patterns. This also explained the seasons as well as time zones and daylight savings time. It also explained why countries near the equator experience the sun setting around the same time throughout the year, like in Oman, in comparison to countries nearer the poles, as well as the 24hour sun in the poles. To be honest it made perfect sense, as much as a globe explanation, so I was wondering if you had seen this or had thoughts on these points? If so was there a reason you choose the example above instead? If there is validity to this it could perhaps shed light on points you’ve raised above about how different places can possibly see, or not see , the same things at the same time like constellations etc. Or even the latest eclipse?

You said as well that the Bible says the sun rises and sets, could this not just be written from the perspective of how it looks?

I might post on your other articles as each raised further questions but it’s made interesting reading for sure.
Thanks in advance if you have time to reply.

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David December 11, 2017 at 2:37 am

I’ve lost facebook friendship with people after I researched the flat earth and created this website to document what I’ve found. Sad story!

Yeah, people say things online that they would never say to my face.

Most flat earthers show the sun moving in a circle that is centered on the North Pole, which moves up to the Tropic of Cancer and down to the Tropic of Capricorn. They have no good scientific explanation for how that happens though.

And they have no explanation for how the full moon appears closer and brighter some months, during a super moon.

Most flat earthers proclaim that the moon illuminates itself, but offer no explanation for how it does that, and how it creates the phases.

They can’t explain how the sun rises due East, at 90 degree, and sets due West, at 270 degrees; in North American and South American cities, on the spring and fall equinoxes. That simply is not possible on the flat earth, as the sun would be circling over the equator; so it can’t rise at 90 degrees and set at 270 degrees, in all of those places.

They can’t explain how the straight path of the solar eclipse was created by a sun that is moving in a circle above the earth.

Yes, people in Scripture may have simply been saying that the sun is rising and setting, based on their perspective. The context of the verses is not about the design of the universe. Or the globe earth is geocentric and the center of the universe.

Hopefully that helps answer your questions 🙂

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