Searching For Truth, Not To Defend A Belief
Obviously by the title, you can see that this website provides explanations that show that the flat earth theory doesn’t work in the real world.
Let me start by saying that I understand that it doesn’t seem like the Earth is spinning or that we are flying through space; and that Bible verses seem to point to a stationary earth, and a moving sun. While those things seem to point to a geocentric design of our universe, it does not in itself prove that the earth is flat.
I know that NASA misleads people about their missions and uses CGI images, but that in itself doesn’t prove the flat earth. And I dare say that the enemy is quite devious, and may use those things on purpose to reinforce their deception.
On this page I will address the major challenges that I’ve found with the flat earth theory, which are explained in more detail on the other pages.
The map that flat-earthers use is really a north-polar azimuthal equidistant projection map of the GLOBE EARTH. Examples are provided below.
The Southern Hemisphere is displayed on the 2D projection map by flaring it out onto the outer circle. This causes the continents in the Southern Hemisphere to be distorted, stretching them out, which is why Australia looks twice as wide as the United States.
And the only way to render the continent of Antarctica, which is opposite of the north pole, is to invert it and stretch it around the map, which creates the white circle around the map. Some north-polar azimuthal equidistant projections don’t even include Antarctica, as it is so distorted it is unrecognizable.
The 8″ per mile squared curvature formula that is cited by flat-earthers is being applied to the WRONG LINE.
It is being applied to the Line Of Sight which is created by looking slightly down to the distant Horizon Line; instead of looking straight out to the Horizontal Line. Those two lines may seem like the same thing, but a theodolite (a precision instrument for measuring angles in the horizontal and vertical planes) proves that they are not.
Though the graphic of the sun and moon rotating above the flat earth looks like a good explanation, the reality is that we can validate with our eyes that the sun and moon can’t function properly that way.
If you’re a flat-earther, you can decide to click away, thinking that you know the truth; but I would hope that your goal is like mine, to find the whole truth, not to defend a position.
I don’t have all of the answers, but my gifting is discernment and my logical mind helps eliminate explanations that are contrary to Scripture, and contrary to logic.
One of the biggest perspective problems is that flat earthers are applying the 8″ per mile squared earth curvature formula to wrong line.
Let’s apply this to a picture to see the difference between the level line and the horizon line.
Flat earthers are looking out to the vanishing Horizon Line which is about 3 miles out, and using that line to apply the formula, which is wrong. Obviously the perspective is exaggerated by the small globe in the image below, but the point is the same.
The curvature formula applies to the Astronomical horizon, which is the line created by looking straight out. In the above image it points out to the sky.
Here is the Earth’s Curve Horizon, Bulge, Drop, and Hidden Calculator, which people use to try to prove that the earth isn’t curved. This is the default setting of the globe earth with a radius of 3,959 miles, which shows that if your view height is 6 feet, then your horizon line is 3 miles away. And that’s pretty much what we see in real life.
Most photos from flat earthers are taken from an elevated position, which extends the horizon line; so just plug the estimated height of the elevated position into the Metabunk Earth’s Curve Formula, and you will see that the horizon line matches up; proving the curved Earth.
In the below calculation I used the Advanced option to add 7 zeroes after the planet radius, to mimic a planet that is so big that the flat top is bigger than the supposed flat earth.
And it shows that if your view height is 6 feet, your horizon line is 9,482 miles away.
Now of course your eyes can’t see that far, but a good telescope would be able to see across the flat plain to be able to see that far.
The point is that if the earth really were flat, then you would be able to see much, much further than 3 miles.
Californians should be able to see Hawaii with a telescope, or Mt. McKinley, which is 20,000 feet high. From atop of Pike Peaks, which is 14,000 feet high, I should be able to use a powerful telescope to see all of America.
But the reason that we can only see to the horizon line is because the earth is curved.
There are a lot of explanations on this website which counter the flat earth explanations, but first let’s set the record straight about the map that most flat-earthers are using.
The map that flat-earthers use actually represents the globe earth!
Before computers, mapping out airplane flight routes was a challenge, as they had to use a globe, or images of the northern and southern hemispheres, like these.
To resolve this problem they created the azimuthal equidistant map, which allowed them to see all of the continents on one 2D map.
In order to do this, the bottom half of the globe earth had to be flared out into the outer circles. On the north-polar azimuthal projection map the northern hemisphere is shown in the inner circle, and the southern hemisphere is shown in the flared out circle that surrounds it.
These maps can be centered from anywhere. If you were planning flights from London, you would center it on London.
North-polar azimuthal projection maps were used during times of war, and the polar route is the shortest distance between countries.
Rendering a globe earth onto a 2D image always cause some distortion.
On the azimuthal projection map, the further away the land mass is from the center point, the greater the distortion. This is why Australia looks so wide, as it’s been stretched.
Since the continent of Antarctica is opposite of the North Pole on the globe earth, the only way to graphically represent it on the north-polar azimuthal projection map is by turning it inside out, and spreading it out as a white ring on the outside edge.
The South Pole is graphically represented by the outside line of the map.
You can see that the white ring has several bays that match up to the Ross Sea, which is close to New Zealand; and Weddell Sea, which is close to South America.
Below is a south-polar azimuthal equidistant projection map. You can see that Antarctica and Australia are now normal size, as they are close to the center point; but North America and Euro-Russia are very distorted. And you can see that the outside edge is blue, because opposite of the South Pole is water on the North Pole.
Here is a equidistant projection map that is centered on Santiago, Chile. North and South America are normal size, as is Antarctica, since they are close to the center point; but Euro-Russia is greatly distorted, so much so that it is graphically rendered as a ring around the outside edge (just like the north-polar map).
You can make your own azimuthal equidistant projection maps on this website. You just need to enter the location; such as 90N,0W for the north pole; and 90S, 0W for the south pole.
Here is a Hammond’s north-polar equidistant map for airplane travel, which is the same map that flat earthers use.
It has both sides of the globe represented, which are declaring that it is a projection of the globe earth onto a 2D map. You can clearly see the continent of Antarctica on the bottom of the globes in white.
This close-up shows you that the globe declares the continent of Antarctica and the South Pole; and then again on the projection map. It is declaring that the outside line is the South Pole. It’s clearly telling you that the continent of Antarctica on the globe earth is represented as the white ring on the projection map.
On the bottom left of the map is a guide to the distances between meridian (N-S) lines. The distance increases up to the equator, and then decrease at the same rate to the South Pole. It’s declaring that though on the projection map it appears that the distances are become greater (because the southern hemisphere is flared out so that you can see it on a 2D projection map), that in fact they are getting smaller because the earth is globe-shaped.
This Air Map Of The World from 1945 tells the truth, that the north-polar azimuthal equidistant projection represents a globe.
Notice that it doesn’t have an ice wall! That is because they didn’t include the continent of Antarctica, because it is so greatly distorted.
Here is the call out box on the top right:
It says “Since it is impossible to spread the surface of a globe on a flat surface without distortion, all maps are distorted in some respects. In this map the distortion occurs in the east and west distances. This distortion increases gradually from the North Pole to the Equator, and then quite rapidly to the outer limits. The distortion of the Antarctic areas would be so great that these are not shown.”
So they didn’t even include the supposed ‘ice wall’, because it’s not an ice wall; it’s the continent of Antarctica, which is greatly distorted by the algorithm used to make the projection map. Since Antarctica is opposite of the North Pole on the globe earth, the only way for the program to render it was to stretch it out as a circle. The outer circle is the South Pole. The continent has been inverted.
To prove that the supposed ice wall is really the distorted and inverted continent of Antarctica, here is an image that has the outer white ring and the continent of Antarctica.
The image keeps the land mass around the outside edge, and has the continent of Antarctica in the middle, as that is what is on the bottom of the globe. The land mass is exaggerated, as the outside ring representation is exaggerated. The continent is inverted to match the inverted outer circle, as the equidistant view is from the top down.
Look at the left side of the continent, which is small compared to the right side. That matches the thin land mass of the left, compared to the right.
Now look at the peninsula on the left lower side at 240 degrees. It matches the peninsula on Antarctica.
The top of the circle is very thin and has a recess.
That matches the curvature of the top of Antarctica.
On the bottom right at 110 degrees, there is a small indentation.
That matches the bay on the southeast part of Antarctica.
Let’s take it one step further. The bottom left red line shows that the meridian lines runs from the bay of Antarctica through South America. The bottom left red lines shows that the meridian line runs from the small bay runs through Asia. The top red line shows that the meridian line runs from the other large bay in between North America and Russia.
The azimuthal equidistant map projection is only a tool, to help determine distances and flight maps on a globe earth.
Every time a flat-earther posts an explanation about direct airplane flights that they say is wrong on a globe earth; they are using this equidistant map, which is a globe map.
Flat earthers tell us to trust our perspective. When we do that we see that the sun and moon go under the horizon line, which proves the globe earth.
On the flat earth, objects that are moving away would simply grow smaller and disappear at the vanishing point, but they would always stay above the horizon.
But every day we see the Sun rise up from under the horizon, and set down below the horizon.
It’s impossible for people on the flat earth model to see the same side of the moon.
Flat earthers push aside proofs that the flat earth model doesn’t work, by claiming that the moon illuminates itself.
The flat earth model cannot illuminate the night moon, while not illuminating the sky.
The flat earth sun and moon are said to be 3,000 miles above the earth, so the suns rays would strike the moon on a horizontal plane.
This is no way for the sun’s rays to illuminate the moon, while not illuminating the sky around it.
90 minutes after the full moon rises on the eastern horizon, the whole sky is dark, because the sun is more than 18 degrees around the globe earth.
The sun’s rays no longer strike any part of the overhead sky, but its rays continue to strike the moon, as they both continue around their circuit.
The flat earth model sun cannot illuminate the bottom side of the crescent moon.
A total lunar eclipse is not possible on the flat earth model.
The path of the Sun and Moon prove that the flat earth theory is invalid.
The full moon does not work on the flat earth model.
It’s not just the full moon that doesn’t work, but that’s the clearest example.
On the evening that the full moon is rising on the east horizon, the sun is setting on the west horizon. Throughout the night the sun and moon will continue moving west, and the sun (which is ahead of the moon) will illuminate the side of the moon that is facing it.
The problem on the flat earth model is that from our perspective as the moon transits the sky, the side of the moon that is fully illuminated by the sun moves away from us.
There is no way to see a full moon all evening on the flat earth model, because when the moon sets in the west, the sun is ahead of it illuminating the side that is hidden from us
Flat earthers cite Genesis 1:16 and say the the world ‘light‘ means that the moon is self-illuminated.
“And God made two great lights; the greater light to rule the day, and the lesser light to rule the night: he made the stars also.”
The Hebrew word for ‘light’ points to a luminous body. It does not say that it provides its own illumination.
ma’owr; properly, a luminous body or luminary, i.e. (abstractly) light (as an element): figuratively, brightness, i.e.cheerfulness; specifically, a chandelier:—bright, light.
Of course they have no way to scientifically explain how the moon illuminates itself, like we do for the Sun.
And they cannot explain how the moon changes its illumination so that we see crescent moons and half moons.
The evidence of a moon that reflects the suns light is obvious, as it creates the phases of the moon.
Flat earthers take words out of context to say that the Bible declares a flat earth.
They cite the words “pillars of the earth” to proclaim that the flat earth sit on top of pillars.
“He raiseth up the poor out of the dust, and lifteth up the beggar from the dunghill, to set them among princes, and to make them inherit the throne of glory: for the pillars of the earth are the LORD’S, and he hath set the world upon them.” 1 Samuel 2:8
Read 1 Samuel 2:2-7, 9-10; you see that the word ‘pillars’ is referring to leaders of the earth, not physical pillars that support the flat earth.
Just like the saying that someone is a ‘pillar in the community’, it is declaring they are a strong leader.
The context is clearly about Elohim raising seemingly lowly people and making them the leaders of the earth. It is not talking about the design of the physical earth!
Flat earthers say that the ‘circle‘ in Isaiah 40:22 is declaring a flat circle earth.
It is he that sitteth upon the circle of the earth, and the inhabitants thereof are as grasshoppers; that stretcheth out the heavens as a curtain, and spreadeth them out as a tent to dwell in:
Let’s back up to get the context of the verse. Elohim is declaring the glory of His creation.
And to whom would you liken Ěl? And what likeness would you compare to Him? The workman moulds a graven image, and the goldsmith overspreads it with gold, and the silversmith casts silver chains. Isaiah 40:18-19
He is declaring that the works of man are nothing as compared to His creativity and power. Then He points out His Mazzoroth, the twelve signs in the heavenly circle, which have proclaimed His plan of redemption from the beginning.
Did you not know? Have you not heard? Has it not been declared to you from the beginning? Have you not understood from the foundations of the earth? Isaiah 40:21
Do you bring out the constellations (Mazzoroth) in its season? Or do you lead the Bear with its sons. Job 38:32
The CIRCLE in Isaiah 40:22 is the Mazzoroth in the sky above, that has 12 constellations in a circle on the ecliptic, which declare the Gospel. It is like a curtain which covers the earth, and in which the stars dwell.
We see that Elohim tells them to look up to the celestial sphere (circle) of the stars of the Mazzoroth.
Lift up your eyes on high and see. Who has created these? He who is bringing out their host by number, He calls them all by name, by the greatness of His might and the strength of His power – not one is missing. Isaiah 40:26
“He appoints the number of the stars, He gives names to all of them.” Psalm 147:4
So one can clearly see that when Elohim referred to the circle of the Earth, He is referring to the circle of the Mazzoroth which acts as a constant witness to those on earth, about His great power, and about His redemption plan.
The same Hebrew word, chuwg, is used in Job 22:14 to describe the circuit of heaven. “Thick clouds are a covering to him, that he seeth not; and he walketh in the circuit (chuwg) of heaven.”
Stop manipulating the Word of Elohim! Read Biblical Proofs Of The Flat Earth Deception.
One of the most misleading things that proponents of the flat earth say is to ‘use your perspective as proof‘.
The challenge is that we are a small human on a large earth, so our perception is distorted.
We can only see so wide and far, so staring at a horizon that is only a few miles wide, we cannot see the curvature.
Flatearthers posts pictures from airplanes which seem to have a straight horizon, but when you put a line across the photo, you can see the curvature. In this image you can see the line is level with the horizon at the airplane pillar, and that there is a gap on the left and right side.
On this picture the red line is level on the left side, but you can clearly see the gap on the right side.
On this picture the red line is even on the sides, and you can see the curve of the earth in the center.
Flatearthers counter by claiming that airplanes have curved glass that distorts the horizon.
Do you really think that airplanes would have glass in the cockpit that distorts the pilots view?
Does the windshield in your car cause the horizon to curve? No!
Flat earthers push aside 100’s of years worth of measurements that have been recorded by geodesic surveyors all over the earth.
These surveyors have painstakingly taken measurements from point to point, and using geometry and triangulation, have determined the size of continents, and the shape of the earth.
Triangulation on a flat earth would yield 180 degree sums, but surveyors have found that the sums are greater than 180 degrees, which proves the arc of the earth. Read Geodesy Proof Of The Flat Earth Deception.
Flat-earthers push aside the witness and photos of countless astronomers throughout the years and around the world, who have taken pictures of the planets and distant galaxies.
They proclaim that there are no real planets, and that they are just projections or lights.
There are astronomy clubs at many schools and astronomy groups in most major cities, who take pictures of the moon, stars, planets and distant galaxies. There is just no way that all of that is a conspiracy to hide the flat earth theory.
You can buy phone apps that show you where to look in the sky for planets, so that you know where to look with your optical telescope.
You can visit astronomy clubs and they will let you look through their optical telescopes, to see the planets and distance galaxies for yourself. There is simply no excuse for this laziness!
Flat earthers push aside the witness of people who work in companies that use satellites.
They proclaim that there are no satellites, but that everything is done through cables or ground-based antennas.
Meteorologists around the world use satellites to show storms like hurricanes.
Hughes Satellite internet service can’t work with cables or land-based antennas, as the locations that receive the signals are too remote.
Navstar GPS works in remote areas through satellites.
Look at a house with the Dish Network, Echostar, DirectTV. What direction is the dish pointed to? The sky!!!
Look at a remote-location TV news crew, where is their dish pointed to? The sky!
Sirius radio provides signals to you when you are far away from ground based antennas
Look at remote military units and military facilities to see where their dishes are pointed to. The sky!
To deny satellites is to deny the existence of a space program covering the US, EU, Russia, China, India, Brazil, employing tens of millions of people and spending tens of billions of dollars a year, putting satellites in orbit, sending probes everywhere, creating the GPS system, satellite TV, etc.
It would mean that all of that is faked, on an ongoing basis, and none of these tens of millions of people has ever exposed the lie.
They push aside the many people who have been to Antarctica as a researcher or tourist.
Flat earthers proclaim that the ice ring is protected so that nobody can see the end of the flat earth.
But that is ludicrous as people visit every year for research and for tourism.
They push aside the witness of water rotation physics.
Water going down drains swirls rotates clockwise in the northern hemisphere and counter-clockwise in the southern hemisphere. There is no explanation for this in the flat earth model.
Hurricanes typically rotate counter-clockwise in the northern hemisphere. Typhoons typically rotate clockwise in the southern hemisphere. There is no explanation for this in the flat earth model.
These short videos address many flat earth explanations.
Proving the Earth is not Flat – Part 1 – The Horizon
Proving the Earth is not Flat – Part 2 – The Stars
Proving the Earth is not Flat – Part 3 – The Moon
Proving the Earth is not Flat – Part 4 – Easy Experiments
So why is the flat earth a topic these days?
More and more people on Facebook and YouTube are promoting the flat earth theory, with ridiculous explanations that prove nothing.
Many of these people expose other conspiracies that have been foisted upon us; and they expose the truth about the Father and Son’s true names, about the Holy Feast Days, corrupt Bibles, etc.
So I believe that the enemy is getting them to believe in the flat-earth theory, so that others will discount all that they are proclaiming. It’s called a PSYOP, a Psychological Operation.
I think that flat-earthers are going to make everyone so tired of hearing about it, that people will not seek any of the truths that they share. Many of them opening condemn everyone who doesn’t believe it, calling them fools and globeheads.
The story that Christians believed in a flat earth until Columbus’ time, and for some time thereafter, began as part of a fictional story that was elevated to historical fact by late 19th-century Darwinists who used it primarily as a means to ridicule Christians.
Sadly that appears to be happening again, as truthers who proclaim the flat earth are being ridiculed.
I hope that this page has helped to open your eyes to the truth, that the earth is a globe.
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