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The False Doctrine of the Flat Earth by David Nikao

If you’re a flat earther, have you studied the context of the Bible verses which are being cited to proclaim “the Bible says flat earth”?

This book goes through all 240 verses that people like Nathan Roberts cite, to show you the proper context; because if you’re promoting this list, then you’re accountable for the explanations.

It gives a fresh perspective about the ‘firmament‘ of Genesis; the ‘circle‘ of Isaiah 40:22; the clay turned to the ‘seal‘ in Job 38:13-14; the ‘pillars‘ of 1 Samuel 2:8; the sun going forth in his ‘circuit‘ of Psalms 19:6; and much more.

If you know someone who believes that the Scriptures describes a domed, flat earth; it will help you understand their rationale in citing these verses.

If you’re a believer who’s researching the flat earth, this book is critical for you.

If you believe in the heliocentric universe, have you read what Moses, Job, David, and Isaiah; declared about the earth, the sun, and the stars? The Bible describes a sun that moves in a circuit, which has been stopped, and has been moved back. And it describes an earth that is fixed. The Bible is purely geocentric, and there is no Scriptural justification for the heliocentric model.

The Bible also describes the lower circular layers which hold back the fountains of the deep; the spherical layers of atmosphere around the globe earth; the constellations on the ecliptic which encircles the globe earth; and the celestial sphere of stars which surround the globe earth as a tent, as a tabernacle.

The real deception is the geocentric globe earth universe, which the enemy is hiding with false narratives of the heliocentric universe and the flat earth model.


The stars in the southern hemisphere prove that the earth is a globe.

On the flat earth model, if people in Australia, South Africa and South America, were all facing South, they would be facing opposite directions, so there’s no way that they can all see the south celestial pole star, which does not move.

Yet people in those three Southern Hemisphere continents can look south and see the south celestial pole star, and see the stars circling around it.

On the flat earth model, if people in Australia, South Africa and South America, were all facing South, they would be facing opposite directions. Yet people in those three Southern Hemisphere continents can look South and see the South Celestial Pole star, and see the stars circling around it. This proves that the North and South Pole stars are at the top and bottom of the ball of lights, and the other stars are circling the globe Earth.

This proves that the north and south celestial pole stars are at the top and bottom of the celestial sphere, and the other stars are circling the globe Earth.

Flat-earthers proclaim that this is possible because when people are looking south, they’re seeing a reflection off of the glass dome of the stars in the northern hemisphere.

But that is a false explanation, as the stars in the northern hemisphere are different than the stars in the southern hemisphere. Here are the constellations in the northern hemisphere.

northern hemisphere stars

Here are the constellations in the southern hemisphere.

southern hemisphere stars

Question for flat earthers:  What is the scientific explanation for how the sun changes its path, to move from the larger circle of the Tropic of Capricorn (32,729 mile circumference) to the much smaller circle of the Tropic of Cancer (18,504 mile circumference)?

Question for flat earthers:  The winter solstice was on 12/21, so the sun is circling near the Tropic of Capricorn. What is the scientific explanation for how the sun changes its path, to move from the larger circle of the Tropic of Capricorn (32,729 mile circumference) to the much smaller circle of the Tropic of Cancer (18,504 mile circumference)?

And what is the scientific explanation for how the sun changes speed from 1,322 MPH on the larger circle to 771 MPH on the smaller circle, to complete exactly one revolution per day?
Please comment below.  Thank you!

Note: the numbers for the tropics are based on the supposed flat earth map, not on the globe. The supposed flat earth map is distorted, as it’s a north-polar azimuthal equidistant projection of the globe earth. So though the Tropics on the globe earth have a circumference of 22,847 miles, on the flat earth map they are distorted. Using the equator as a baseline at 24,901 miles in circumference; the numbers of the Tropic of Cancer (18,504 miles) and the Tropic of Capricorn (32,729 miles) are based on the geometry of the azimuthal projection; not the actual globe.

After a lot of research, I believe that the enemy has created a deception regarding the design of the universe.

The Illuminati card game has a Flat Earth card that says “People laugh, but the flat earthers know something”.

What flat earthers know is that the earth isn’t flying through space orbiting the sun.  Astronomers and scientists have not proved that the Earth is moving.

And from our Earthly perspective, the planets and stars appear the same regardless of whether it’s the Copernican heliocentric view or the Tychonic geocentric view.

The deception is that the enemy has caused people to promote the heliocentric view based on philosophy, to not involve a Creator in the explanation of the design of the universe.

And that led to the big bang theory, the theory of evolution, etc.; all of which steals glory from our Creator, and deceives people.

It wasn’t until scientific probes produced data about the radiation of the expanding universe, and the orientation of the quasars and radio galaxies; that researches were able to see that all of those things were pointing back to Earth as the center of the universe.

These findings were published in a book titled ‘Geocentrism 101 – An Introduction into the  Science of  Geocentric Cosmology‘ in 2013, and then explained in a movie called The Principle in late 2014.

Then shortly afterward the flat earth theory was aggressively pushed on YouTube and Facebook, to try to cover over the evidence, and to cause people to dismiss anyone who teaches that the Earth is geocentric.

The enemy has created a false dichotomy, so that the debate is between the geocentric flat earth vs. the heliocentric globe earth; so that people don’t consider the third option, that of the geocentric globe earth.

It puts the Earth at the center of the universe, proving a Designer/Creator, and explains why stars perfectly circle the Earth; while maintaining the laws of physics of the globe earth and the surrounding elaborate universe, which is a precision time-piece.

Please read the geocentric Earth page, to see the scientific research that proves that we are at the center of the universe.

I’m not declaring that the earth is geocentric, as I can’t prove it scientifically; but when you look at how Bible verses seem to point to a geocentric earth, it’s an option that we need to consider. Read through the website, and you decide.

If you’re a flat-earther, you can decide to click away, thinking that you know the truth; but I would hope that your goal is to find the whole truth, not to defend a position.

People like Nathan Roberts and Rob Skiba point to Bible verses which they proclaim prove that the earth is flat; but the verses are taken out of context, and some of them prove that the earth is a globe.

Please read this Biblical Proofs Of The Geocentric Globe Earth study and decide for yourself.

Why would the enemy create the flat earth deception?

Because most flat earthers are sharing truth in other areas, whether it’s about coming out of churchianity, about the Illuminati and their agenda, etc.; so by getting them to believe in the flat earth, they cause family and friends to stop listening to all that they teach.

On this page I will address the major challenges that I’ve found with the flat earth theory, which are explained in more detail on the other pages.

Here’s a video from the Geographic South Pole, looking straight up, which proves that the earth is not flat. 

We can see the perfect circle of stars which is only possible on the globe earth, as no point on the supposed ice ring would show the stars circling overhead.

Here’s a video of a 5-day time-lapse from March 8-13, 2017, taken from the Amundsen–Scott South Pole Station, which proves that the earth is not flat.

Airplane Video Proves Sun Is Not 3,000 Miles Above The Flat Earth

This observation is impossible on a Flat Earth with a Sun 3000 Miles above.  We can clearly see the Sun on the Horizon from 43,000 ft. The clouds beneath us are illuminated from below but are dark on top.

This geometry is impossible on a Flat Earth.  Of course – it works just fine on a Globe.

The Nikon P900 camera debunks the flat earth.

This video shows one ship that is moored near the horizon line, and the distant ship behind it which is well below the horizon; proving the curvature of the earth.

Some flat earthers commented that you should see the distant ship ’tilting’ if the Earth is curved, but the distance equates to only .23 degrees of tilt, which is not perceivable.

Sorry Flat Earthers The Equinox Geometry does NOT work on a Flat Earth.

The Flat Earth fails to explain the real observations we can make on the Equinox twice per year.


A commercial pilot who is based out of Australia, who makes international flights in the southern hemisphere, shows that flat earthers cannot produce a legitimate pilots flight plan.

The video description says: A message to Flat Earthers. If you can’t show me a map that works and you can’t tell me how to navigate precisely around the real Earth you are wasting your time telling me the Earth is Flat. I can and do navigate precisely around the real Earth and I have been doing this safely for over 30 years using the Globe. Time to start producing real results guys. The same old nonsense arguments won’t cut it here any longer.

Flat earthers misrepresent the size of the sun, to proclaim that it gets smaller as it sets.

Flat earthers misrepresent the size of the sun, proclaiming that it is shrinking

Here’s one of Wolfie6020‘s short videos where he used two cameras to record at the same time, one with a solar filter, one without.

This video shows how the size of the sun in the hazy sky changes as the camera automatically adjusts.

Flat earthers tell us to trust our perspective, but when we do that, we see that the sun and moon do not line up with the flat earth theory.

Flat earthers proclaim that the moon is a flat disc, but that simply cannot be true.

This is so easily disproved, that it’s nonsensical for flat earthers to proclaim it.

Flat earthers proclaim that the moon is a flat disc, but that simply cannot be true.

The shadows on the moon prove that it is being illuminated from an external light source.

The sun obviously illuminates the moon, which is contrary to what flat earthers proclaim

Flat earthers cite Genesis 1:16 and say the the world ‘light‘ means that the moon is self-illuminated.

And God made two great lights; the greater light to rule the day, and the lesser light to rule the night: he made the stars also.”

The Hebrew word for ‘light’ points to a luminous body. It does not say that it provides its own illumination.

ma’owr; properly, a luminous body or luminary, i.e. (abstractly) light (as an element): figuratively, brightness, i.e.cheerfulness; specifically, a chandelier:—bright, light.

Of course they have no way to scientifically explain how the moon illuminates itself, like we do for the Sun.

And they cannot explain how the moon changes its illumination so that we see crescent moons and half moons.

It’s impossible for people on the flat earth model to see the same side of the moon.

People in northern and southern hemispheres would see different sides of the flat earth moon

We would see different sides of the moon, on the flat earth model.

The moon can't work properly on the flat earth

The sun and moon do not vanish as a small dot over the horizon; but rather, they rise up from under the horizon and set below the horizon.

On the flat earth, objects that are moving away would simply grow smaller and disappear at the vanishing point, but they would always stay above the horizon.

But every day we see the Sun rise up from under the horizon, and set down below the horizon.

The rising moon proves the globe earth, not the flat earth

The setting sun proves the globe earth not the flat earth

It’s impossible for the sun to rise due East and set due West on the Equinox days.

The sun cannot work properly on the flat earth model.

The sun does not rise and set at the proper locations on the flat earth model.

Australia sun rises due East and sets due West on equinox, disproving flat earth theory

The paths of the 2017 and 2024 solar eclipses across the United States are impossible to explain on the flat earth model.

There is no scientific explanation for the solar eclipse on the flat earth model, and we can clearly see that the path of the eclipse across the United States, cannot match up with the circular path of the flat earth sun.

Here are the 2017 and 2024 eclipse paths overlaid on what people are calling a flat earth map. There is no way to explain how an eclipsed sun, which is circling south of the United States; could create shadows on the United States that curve in the opposite direction.

How do flat earthers scientifically predict upcoming solar and lunar eclipses?

They don’t! There is no scientific data which shows what causes the eclipses (many flat earthers say that the moon doesn’t cause the solar eclipse), and when they will happen.

The Spring and Fall Equinox is a great time to prove whether the earth is flat or a globe.

Geodetic surveying shows that angles of the measured triangle exceed 180 degrees, proving that Earth is curved.  This is called ‘spherical excess’. 

Flat earthers push aside 100’s of years worth of measurements that have been recorded by geodesic surveyors all over the earth.

These surveyors have painstakingly taken measurements from point to point, and using geometry and triangulation, have determined the size of continents, and the shape of the earth.

Triangulation on a flat earth would yield 180 degree sums, but surveyors have found that the sums are greater than 180 degrees, which proves the arc of the earth.  Read Geodesy Proof Of The Flat Earth Deception.

Geodetic surveying reveals that the angles of the measured triangle exceed 180 degrees, proving that the Earth is curved. This is called ‘spherical excess’. If the Earth was flat, the angles would add up to 180 degrees.

One of the biggest perspective problems is that flat earthers are applying the 8″ per mile squared earth curvature formula to wrong line.

The 8″ per mile squared calculation does not measure the curvature of the line of sight, your horizon line; it extends far beyond what you can see.

8 inch per mile squared formula for curved globe earth

One of the biggest perspective problems is that flat earthers are applying the 8" per mile earth curvature formula to wrong line.

Let’s apply this to a picture to see the difference between the level line and the horizon line.

Let's apply this to a picture to see the difference between the level line and the horizon line.

Here is the Earth’s Curve Horizon, Bulge, Drop, and Hidden Calculator, which people use to try to prove that the earth isn’t curved.  This is the default setting of the globe earth with a radius of 3,959 miles, which shows that if your view height is 6 feet, then your horizon line is 3 miles away.  And that’s pretty much what we see in real life.

Curved Earth Pythagorean theorem Formula

Most photos from flat earthers are taken from an elevated position, which extends the horizon line; so just plug the estimated height of the elevated position into the Metabunk Earth’s Curve Formula, and you will see that the horizon line matches up; proving the curved Earth.

Curved Earth Pythagorean theorem Formula viewer height

In the below calculation I used the Advanced option to add 7 zeroes after the planet radius, to mimic a planet that is so big that the flat top is bigger than the supposed flat earth.

And it shows that if your view height is 6 feet, your horizon line is 9,482 miles away.

Curved Earth Pythagorean theorem Formula flat

Now of course your eyes can’t see that far, but a good telescope would be able to see across the flat plain to be able to see that far.

The point is that if the earth really were flat, then you would be able to see much, much further than 3 miles.

Californians should be able to see Hawaii with a telescope, or Mt. McKinley, which is 20,000 feet high.  From atop of Pike Peaks, which is 14,000 feet high, I should be able to use a powerful telescope to see all of America.

But the reason that we can only see to the horizon line is because the earth is curved; you are seeing the bulge of the Earth.

Here is a more technical explanation of the Earth curvature formula, to see how it is being misapplied by flat earthers.

Here is a more technical explanation of the Earth curvature formula, to see how it is being misapplied by flat earthers.

There are a lot of explanations on this website which counter the flat earth explanations, but first let’s set the record straight about the map that most flat-earthers are using.

The map that flat-earthers use actually represents the globe earth!

Before computers, mapping out airplane flight routes was a challenge, as they had to use a globe, or images of the northern and southern hemispheres, like these.

Azimuthal equidistant map globes

To resolve this problem they created the azimuthal equidistant map, which allowed them to see all of the continents on one 2D map.

In order to do this, the bottom half of the globe earth had to be flared out into the outer circles. On the north-polar azimuthal projection map the northern hemisphere is shown in the inner circle, and the southern hemisphere is shown in the flared out circle that surrounds it.

The north-polar equidistant projectionmap is not a flat earth map!

These maps can be centered from anywhere.  If you were planning flights from London, you would center it on London.

North-polar azimuthal projection maps were used during times of war, and the polar route is the shortest distance between countries.

Rendering a globe earth onto a 2D image always cause some distortion.

On the azimuthal projection map, the further away the land mass is from the center point, the greater the distortion.  This is why Australia looks so wide, as it’s been stretched.

Since the continent of Antarctica is opposite of the North Pole on the globe earth, the only way to graphically represent it on the north-polar azimuthal projection map is by turning it inside out, and spreading it out as a white ring on the outside edge.

The South Pole is graphically represented by the outside line of the map.

You can see that the white ring has several bays that match up to the Ross Sea, which is close to New Zealand; and Weddell Sea, which is close to South America.

Below is a south-polar azimuthal equidistant projection map.  You can see that Antarctica and Australia are now normal size, as they are close to the center point; but North America and Euro-Russia are very distorted.  And you can see that the outside edge is blue, because opposite of the South Pole is water on the North Pole.

Antartica south pole azimuthal map proces the flat earth theory is false

Here is a equidistant projection map that is centered on Santiago, Chile.  North and South America are normal size, as is Antarctica, since they are close to the center point; but Euro-Russia is greatly distorted, so much so that it is graphically rendered as a ring around the outside edge (just like the north-polar map).


You can make your own azimuthal equidistant projection maps on this website. You just need to enter the location; such as 90N,0W for the north pole; and 90S, 0W for the south pole.

Here is a Hammond’s north-polar equidistant map for airplane travel, which is the same map that flat earthers use.

It has both sides of the globe represented, which are declaring that it is a projection of the globe earth onto a 2D map. You can clearly see the continent of Antarctica on the bottom of the globes in white.

Hammond's globe map is not a flat earth map

This close-up shows you that the globe declares the continent of Antarctica and the South Pole; and then again on the projection map.  It is declaring that the outside line is the South Pole.  It’s clearly telling you that the continent of Antarctica on the globe earth is represented as the white ring on the projection map.

Hammond's map declares that the ice ring is the continent of Antarctica

On the bottom left of the map is a guide to the distances between meridian (N-S) lines. The distance increases up to the equator, and then decrease at the same rate to the South Pole.  It’s declaring that though on the projection map it appears that the distances are become greater (because the southern hemisphere is flared out so that you can see it on a 2D projection map), that in fact they are getting smaller because the earth is globe-shaped.

Hammonds globe projection map meridian line distances prove that it is not a flat earth map

This Air Map Of The World from 1945 tells the truth, that the north-polar azimuthal equidistant projection represents a globe.

Notice that it doesn’t have an ice wall!  That is because they didn’t include the continent of Antarctica, because it is so greatly distorted.

azimuthal equidistant projection map is not a flat earth map

Here is the call out box on the top right:

This Air Map Of The World from 1945 tells the truth, that the north-polar azimuthal equidistant projection represents a globe.

It says “Since it is impossible to spread the surface of a globe on a flat surface without distortion, all maps are distorted in some respects.  In this map the distortion occurs in the east and west distances.  This distortion increases gradually from the North Pole to the Equator, and then quite rapidly to the outer limits.  The distortion of the Antarctic areas would be so great that these are not shown.”

So they didn’t even include the supposed ‘ice wall’, because it’s not an ice wall; it’s the continent of Antarctica, which is greatly distorted by the algorithm used to make the projection map.  Since Antarctica is opposite of the North Pole on the globe earth, the only way for the program to render it was to stretch it out as a circle.  The outer circle is the South Pole.   The continent has been inverted.

To prove that the supposed ice wall is really the distorted and inverted continent of Antarctica, here is an image that has the outer white ring and the continent of Antarctica.

The image keeps the land mass around the outside edge, and has the continent of Antarctica in the middle, as that is what is on the bottom of the globe.  The land mass is exaggerated, as the outside ring representation is exaggerated.  The continent is inverted to match the inverted outer circle, as the equidistant view is from the top down.

The flat earth map ice ring is actually antarctica

Look at the left side of the continent, which is small compared to the right side.  That matches the thin land mass of the left, compared to the right.

Now look at the peninsula on the left lower side at 240 degrees.  It matches the peninsula on Antarctica.

The top of the circle is very thin and has a recess.

That matches the curvature of the top of Antarctica.

On the bottom right at 110 degrees, there is a small indentation.

That matches the bay on the southeast part of Antarctica.

Let’s take it one step further.  The bottom left red line shows that the meridian lines runs from the bay of Antarctica through South America. The bottom left red lines shows that the meridian line runs from the small bay runs through Asia.  The top red line shows that the meridian line runs from the other large bay in between North America and Russia.

Flat Earth map is equidistant map

The azimuthal equidistant map projection is only a tool, to help determine distances and flight maps on a globe earth.

Every time a flat-earther posts an explanation about direct airplane flights that they say is wrong on a globe earth; they are using this equidistant map, which is a globe map.

Flat earthers take words out of context to say that the Bible declares a flat earth.

They cite the words “pillars of the earth” to proclaim that the flat earth sit on top of pillars.

He raiseth up the poor out of the dust, and lifteth up the beggar from the dunghill, to set them among princes, and to make them inherit the throne of glory: for the pillars of the earth are the LORD’S, and he hath set the world upon them.” 1 Samuel 2:8

Read 1 Samuel 2:2-7, 9-10; you see that the word ‘pillars’ is referring to leaders of the earth, not physical pillars that support the flat earth.

Just like the saying that someone is a ‘pillar in the community’, it is declaring they are a strong leader.

The context is clearly about Elohim raising seemingly lowly people and making them the leaders of the earth.  It is not talking about the design of the physical earth!

Flat earthers say that the ‘circle‘ in Isaiah 40:22 is declaring a flat circle earth.

It is he that sitteth upon the circle of the earth, and the inhabitants thereof are as grasshoppers; that stretcheth out the heavens as a curtain, and spreadeth them out as a tent to dwell in:

Let’s back up to get the context of the verse. Elohim is declaring the glory of His creation.

And to whom would you liken Ěl? And what likeness would you compare to Him? The workman moulds a graven image, and the goldsmith overspreads it with gold, and the silversmith casts silver chains. Isaiah 40:18-19

He is declaring that the works of man are nothing as compared to His creativity and power. Then He points out His Mazzoroth, the twelve signs in the heavenly circle, which have proclaimed His plan of redemption from the beginning.

Did you not know? Have you not heard? Has it not been declared to you from the beginning? Have you not understood from the foundations of the earth? Isaiah 40:21

Do you bring out the constellations (Mazzoroth) in its season? Or do you lead the Bear with its sons. Job 38:32

The CIRCLE in Isaiah 40:22 is the Mazzoroth in the sky above, that has 12 constellations in a circle on the ecliptic, which declare the Gospel. It is like a curtain which covers the earth, and in which the stars dwell.

The circle of Isaiah 40:22 is the ecliptic, not the flat earth circle

We see that Elohim tells them to look up to the celestial sphere (circle) of the stars of the Mazzoroth.

Lift up your eyes on high and see. Who has created these? He who is bringing out their host by number, He calls them all by name, by the greatness of His might and the strength of His power – not one is missing. Isaiah 40:26

He appoints the number of the stars, He gives names to all of them.” Psalm 147:4

So one can clearly see that when Elohim referred to the circle of the Earth, He is referring to the circle of the Mazzoroth which acts as a constant witness to those on earth, about His great power, and about His redemption plan.

The same Hebrew word, chuwg, is used in Job 22:14 to describe the circuit of heaven. “Thick clouds are a covering to him, that he seeth not; and he walketh in the circuit (chuwg) of heaven.”

Stop manipulating the Word of Elohim!  Read Biblical Proofs Of The Flat Earth Deception.

One of the most misleading things that proponents of the flat earth say is to ‘use your perspective as proof‘.

The challenge is that we are a small human on a large earth, so our perception is distorted.

We can only see so wide and far, so staring at a horizon that is only a few miles wide, we cannot see the curvature.

Flatearthers posts pictures from airplanes which seem to have a straight horizon, but when you put a line across the photo, you can see the curvature. In this image you can see the line is level with the horizon at the airplane pillar, and that there is a gap on the left and right side.

Airline pilot photo shows the curved earth

On this picture the red line is level on the left side, but you can clearly see the gap on the right side.

Airline pilot photo shows the curved earth 3

On this picture the red line is even on the sides, and you can see the curve of the earth in the center.

Supposed flat earth airplane image

Flatearthers counter by claiming that airplanes have curved glass that distorts the horizon.
Do you really think that airplanes would have glass in the cockpit that distorts the pilots view?
Does the windshield in your car cause the horizon to curve?  No!


Flat-earthers push aside the witness and photos of countless astronomers throughout the years and around the world, who have taken pictures of the planets and distant galaxies.

They proclaim that there are no real planets, and that they are just projections or lights.

There are astronomy clubs at many schools and astronomy groups in most major cities, who take pictures of the moon, stars, planets and distant galaxies. There is just no way that all of that is a conspiracy to hide the flat earth theory.

You can buy phone apps that show you where to look in the sky for planets, so that you know where to look with your optical telescope.

You can visit astronomy clubs and they will let you look through their optical telescopes, to see the planets and distance galaxies for yourself.  There is simply no excuse for this laziness!

Read Astronomy Proves The Flat Earth Deception.

Flat earthers push aside the witness of people who work in companies that use satellites.

They proclaim that there are no satellites, but that everything is done through cables or ground-based antennas.

Meteorologists around the world use satellites to show storms like hurricanes.

Hughes Satellite internet service can’t work with cables or land-based antennas, as the locations that receive the signals are too remote.

Navstar GPS works in remote areas through satellites.

Look at a house with the Dish Network, Echostar, DirectTV. What direction is the dish pointed to? The sky!!!

Look at a remote-location TV news crew, where is their dish pointed to?  The sky!

Sirius radio provides signals to you when you are far away from ground based antennas

Look at remote military units and military facilities to see where their dishes are pointed to.  The sky!

To deny satellites is to deny the existence of a space program covering the US, EU, Russia, China, India, Brazil, employing tens of millions of people and spending tens of billions of dollars a year, putting satellites in orbit, sending probes everywhere, creating the GPS system, satellite TV, etc.

It would mean that all of that is faked, on an ongoing basis, and none of these tens of millions of people has ever exposed the lie.

Read Satellites Prove The Flat Earth Deception.

They push aside the many people who have been to Antarctica as a researcher or tourist.

Flat earthers proclaim that the ice ring is protected so that nobody can see the end of the flat earth.

But that is ludicrous as people visit every year for research and for tourism.

Read Antarctica Proves The Flat Earth Deception

So why is the flat earth a topic these days? 

More and more people on Facebook and YouTube are promoting the flat earth theory, with ridiculous explanations that prove nothing.

Many of these people expose other conspiracies that have been foisted upon us; and they expose the truth about the Father and Son’s true names, about the Holy Feast Days, corrupt Bibles, etc.

So I believe that the enemy is getting them to believe in the flat-earth theory, so that others will discount all that they are proclaiming. It’s called a PSYOP, a Psychological Operation.

I think that flat-earthers are going to make everyone so tired of hearing about it, that people will not seek any of the truths that they share.  Many of them opening condemn everyone who doesn’t believe it, calling them fools and globeheads.

The story that Christians believed in a flat earth until Columbus’ time, and for some time thereafter, began as part of a fictional story that was elevated to historical fact by late 19th-century Darwinists who used it primarily as a means to ridicule Christians.

Sadly that appears to be happening again, as truthers who proclaim the flat earth are being ridiculed.

I hope that this page has helped to open your eyes to the truth, that the earth is a globe.

If you have some insight to prove that what I have shown is not correct, please comment below.

If you just want to make statements, without any proof; or if you just want to make accusations against me; then your comment may not be added to the discussion.


p.s. My explanations are logical, and are based on what we can see.  I don’t offer scientific explanations, because that is not my strength.

Sadly, I see flat earthers mocking scientific explanations about the globe earth, but giving really unscientific answers.

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JOSHUA November 27, 2020 at 1:40 am

The funny thing is that the word “ Scientific“ seems to be the only ground to stand on when what little science there was from Wayback came with the fallen angels to begin with but everything is written in the word from our creator from the pillars to the fairament were spoken from the BEGING to believe in some written Science probably no older than five or 600 years compared to words that were written well over 2000 years scientist I need to remember being deceived is one of the many things of all evil those of y’all that do believe in our creator in our father but are still wanting to go with science need to fast and go to him with this and see where it goes


Maria November 12, 2020 at 3:58 pm

Thank you for this work! When I found out about people believing that the Earth is flat I at first thought how can people believe this. But this year, 2020, has made me question everything (plus I have a very open mind) and thought I will look into it to at least have proof for either one or the other as long as it’s the truth. There is a youtuber that I follow for other reasons but he mentions at times that he believes the Earth is flat and that made me think again. I saw the documentary Flat Earth on Netflix and didn’t like it because it only exposed them as silly and I don’t believe that’s a fair way to treat anyone and it didn’t provide proof for either side so the question stuck with me. With your videos it helped me see things clearer. Plus I used to be a flight attendant so I’ve been inside the cockpit many times and seen the curve of the horizon for this reason I just couldn’t make sense of the flat earth theory. Again thank you for making a good job to confirm this! Really well done! This is what I was looking for!


David November 12, 2020 at 4:11 pm

Thank you for your comment Maria! I made the website and wrote the book, for people like you who are searching for truth. The Bible describes an earth that is immovable and a sun that is moving in a circuit, which shows that the enemy has created a deception. But the Bible does not say that the earth is flat.


Yvonne December 17, 2020 at 5:35 am

Neil deGrassi Tyson, the leasing Astrophysics and planetary scientist say it it impossible to see the curvature from any plane-even a spy plane…he says all you will see is flat. Google it.


Rick November 4, 2020 at 2:52 pm

So why can’t you get a direct flight from Sydney Australia to Cape Town South Africa? It’s supposedly only 6,838 miles yet the only options are for 1-stops or more with all of those flights either stopping in Doha or Dubai with a shortest flight time of 31 hours. Genuinely interested in how you doin this argument.


David November 4, 2020 at 5:16 pm

Flights from one southern hemisphere continent to another, is covered on this page, with real flights


Rick November 4, 2020 at 8:21 pm

Do you even look at your own information? It’s completely false. All of the flights you listed on flight tracker as “proof” are non existent when using any travel website to book flights. You’re either a lying shill or unable to use simple tools to debunk your flawed argument.


David November 4, 2020 at 8:32 pm

Do I look at my own information? What a brilliant question! I never thought of doing that! 😛 No lies here, the earth is curved. The real deception is that the universe is geocentric, but you flat-earthers are doing a fine job of covering that up!


Rick November 5, 2020 at 8:09 pm

Classic deflection technique used by your close minded group when “evidence” you purport to be fact is in fact a lie and you have ZERO explanation. Enjoy the bliss of ignorance.

Bro Andrew November 1, 2020 at 7:10 pm

Thanks for all your research. I have two Christian brothers all locked up in this flat earth psyop BS. My DOD retired scientist friend told me this is all a black psyop, they hire scientists to lie to the people as a test and research and data collection on a D-Wave quantum computers. How does he know? because they asked him do you want to be apart fo this project, it pays well. He refused. Highly PAID to lie to the USA & world citizens? NO THANK YOU. WWG1WGA. All states RED on 11/4


David November 1, 2020 at 7:55 pm

Thank you for sharing your insight Bro Andrew! Yeah, the evil ones run psyop’s to push their agenda, and to test to see how dumbed-down people are… and sadly, many people are misled by their fake explanations.


Todd R Harvey November 1, 2020 at 6:07 pm

Thanks for going to the trouble to put up this extensive site (stumbled on it today). I’m glad somebody did it. (I only glanced at the web page of photos from high altitude and your red line “flat” compared to the curved horizon, and thought to save that, and then looked further and saw you have a book and an extremely extensive set of common-sense low tech proofs, which I really like. (I call them “back yard” or “red neck” proofs, because you don’t need a whole lot of math to prove anything, and you can see them with your own eyes. To quote you “My explanations are logical, and are based on what we can see. I don’t offer scientific explanations, because that is not my strength.”

I guess the reason this makes me crazy is because among the young YouTube creators who are (rightly) distrustful of the government, there is a subset who will veer into “flat earth”, and unfortunately, that sucks a lot of their energy , and also unfortunately, tends to discredit them in the eyes of at least 50% of all viewers. Doubly unfortunate is that I’ve read that about 90% of flat earthers are christians with a hyper-literalist reading of the bible.

This link by Wade Burleson shows how flat earth was weaponized in the 1880’s in an intentional attempt to discredit the church.

I have not substantiated this quote found on Quora, but believe it: Nikolai Collushnikov October 24, 2019 2:25 PM
Somewhat on topic. But I conclude that “flat earth” is a psy-op. Look at Google Trends, flat earth is flat for years then around October 2014 it explodes in popularity. Notice that most of the big flat earth blogs and flat earth YouTube channels appeared mostly within a three month period at the end of 2014. They also produced slick “professional” video from the beginning. Most YouTubers are amateurs and start out slow before they up their game. Flat Earth YouTubers, especially the big ones hit the ground running. This isn’t organic.

If he is correct, that the trend is not organic, and recognizing that from 2014 or so YouTube and other AI driven social media companies began to actively modulate social media feeds, then the flat earth trend may well be weaponized to produce the effect we see – that young guys who are shocked at MK Ultra or other horrible governmental misconduct are tarred with flat earth belief. That young christians who feel under attack anyway are driven further and further away from scientific pursuits and are thoroughly marginalized in the eyes of their peers.

Stepping a bit onto a limb here, I’m speculating that flat earth belief induces a practical paranoia – “only my flat earth friends are right, everybody else is lying to me”. Such thinking would make you deeply suspicious of everyone outside a tight little circle. My friend says his daughter is flat earth, and her friends come over and they talk about it for hours.

In sum, thanks for what you’re doing. I believe the flat earthers are worth rescuing.


David November 1, 2020 at 8:02 pm

Thank you for sharing your insight Todd! Yeah, people like to think that they have special knowledge that’s hidden from the rest of the world. And with all of the deception in this world from the evil ones, you can see why FE’s think that there’s something wrong with what NASA is saying. I’m sure that they’re right, that NASA is up to an evil agenda.

What’s interesting is that after 2013 data about the signature of the universe pointing back to the earth as the center started being published, then the flat earth psyop was pushed with really high-end videos, showing that it is by professionals. The flat earth theory is causing people to overlook the geocentric universe model.


Pat September 10, 2020 at 4:55 pm

What is your stance on gravity? Since it cannot at all explain astronomical observations (where 95% of matter must be claimed as invisible ‘dark’ matter), it would seem that it does not exist, and that some other, similar force (whether electromagnetic, directly divine in nature, etc.) exists that would bend the waters on a geocentric globe.


David September 10, 2020 at 6:04 pm

Pat, I suspect that the earth and universe are electromagnetic, which I think is what Nikola Tesla taught.


Arno Nühm August 9, 2020 at 8:23 pm

Thanks, Bob!

Rest assured you will be quoted on this one.


Jeff David Klock July 13, 2020 at 5:57 am

The Jesuits teach the earth is round LOL Busted !!! Jesuit Robert Sungenis debated Rob Skiba that the earth is round. I used to share your site when I was a round earther.


David July 13, 2020 at 12:50 pm

The Jesuits mislead people by pointing to a globe earth in a heliocentric universe. They mislead people with the flat earth theory. They do this to hide to true design, the globe earth in a geocentric universe.

I attended the Robert Sungenis and Rob Skiba debate. Sungenis could have done better on explaining Isaiah 40:22. I contacted him afterward to try to share the truth about that passage, but once you think you know something, it’s hard to give it up.

I cover that on my Biblical Proofs page and in my book. Did you read the book? You can get it for free. Go ahead and read it and try to debunk it. What you’ll see is that the flat earth explanations have taken verses out of their proper context.


Bob Knodel May 18, 2020 at 7:08 am

Two comments.
Both wrong.
There’s no divide between reality and flat earth or the geocentric nonsense, there’s just a very tiny number of gullible people who have fallen for some internet hoaxes.


Brian Allen April 8, 2020 at 4:48 pm

I have been given your works by a very good friend, Bill Ledford. I am truly grateful for your efforts to expose we live in a geocentric universe.
I understand the enemy’s deception by dividing the people between the flat earth and spinning ball earth. However, I cannot comprehend your insistence and tenacity for promoting we live on a stationary ball when there is so much evidence that we do not and none that we do.
I lived near Bill at an altitude of 7,000 feet above sea LEVEL. On a clear day one can view 2 mountains (Spanish Peaks) 112 miles in the distance. Both can be plainly seen from their 7,700 foot bases to their 13,625 and 12,684 foot summits. If we lived on a 24,886 mile circumference ball, based on the corresponding geometry and math, these mountains would be at 2,436 and 3,378 feet BELOW the horizon- completely hidden by the curvature of the globe
My wife used to live in Anchorage, Alaska. She confirms that 20,308 foot Mt. McKinley, being 120 miles in the distance can also be viewed from base to summit.
Even if we are being lied to about the size of a ball earth we supposedly live on, these mountains and all others of their size, at the very least, would be leaning backwards in our view. They do not and remain completely upright regardless of how far you travel away from them. The same holds true for Pikes Peak in Bill’s backyard at 14,115 feet above sea LEVEL.
Not only is there no evidence of curvature, but no matter how high one rises in altitude, the horizon always rises with you. If the earth were a ball, the horizon would always be dropping below you as your altitude increased. This never happens unless you are in a Red Bull balloon filming with a fish-eye lens showing New Mexico to be over ¼ the size of the earth. Interestingly, they also showed a view with a standard lens from inside the cabin pointed through the door at the completely flat horizon. Satan is always required to show the truth to those willing to see it.
If the earth were a ball, pilots traveling at 500+ miles per hour would be constantly forced to adjust the nose of their plane downwards to prevent them from flying off into the atmosphere. Of course, there is no need for this as all PLANES travel directly above a flat PLANE.
As far as the misconception of viewing a ship from the ocean shore believing it proves the earth is a ball: Prove it to yourself. Observe a ship travelling out of eyesight as it “sinks and disappears” over the “curve of the earth”. Then look through binoculars and you will see the ship in full view. This is due to the limitations of our eyesight via the “vanishing point”. The ship is still sailing along flat waters and will always be sailing upon sea LEVEL.
Ever wonder where the term “planet” was derived from? Could it be from the word plane with the addition of the letter “t” from Tammuz. Just as the cross is a pagan symbol signifying the “t” from Tammuz.
Ever consider the origin of the term astronaut? The suffix “naut” derives from the word nautical due to the fact that “Space” is simply the waters above.
Do you not think that an evil people capable of lying about the design of the universe, fake moon landings (one cannot land on a luminary immersed in water), imaginary satellites (conjured from a science fiction book from the 1920s), fake International Space Stations, fake Hubble telescopes, the “theory” of invisible gravity with the moon controlling the world’s ocean tides, etc. are not capable of lying about the shape of our world?
Instead of a “theory” of gravity, we simply have the laws of density and buoyancy. IF you still believe in the magical gravity, please explain how every molecule of water in oceans, lakes and rivers, even while in motion at up to 1,000 miles per hour are held down on a ball with this tremendous force while a butterfly can flutter above the waters.
A ball could be 1,000 times as large as Earth but it still remains a ball and water could never hang upside down or even sideways upon it.
Water must always seek its own LEVEL, that is a law of physics. Once again, we have sea LEVEL on a flat plane, not water sticking to a ball. Try to get water to pool up on a beach ball and see what happens. It will not matter how large the ball is as you will always have the same result.
To expound, all “satellites” are ground based with their signal deflecting off the arched firmament over a flat plane. There are not 13,000 to 30,000 satellites orbiting a 24,886- mile circumference ball. Nobody has ever witnessed a “satellite” being placed into orbit in “Space”. Just as no one has witnessed a satellite in Space. However, there sure are a lot of rockets at the bottom of the ocean as none could ever penetrate our Creator’s firmament.
Ever wonder why there is no Sirius satellite radio reception in Alaska or on Hawaii? Simply because there are not enough paying subscribers to support the construction, operation and maintenance of a ground- based radio service. Not because those areas cannot receive a signal from 22,500 miles up in “Space”.
To top it off, there is not one shred of evidence, not one actual photograph of the earth being a ball. The famous “Blue Marble” is a composite which NASA even admits to. They even employ a specialist, Robert Simmon, aka Mr. Blue Marble who provides the CGI for the image.
In addition, their one “picture of the Earth” from the moon’s surface has the Earth the exact same size as the moon when it needed to be 6 times larger- oops!
NASA refuses to produce a photo of the ball Earth from the ISS because there is no ISS. There is no evidence or proof one was ever assembled 254 miles above Earth while traveling at 8 TIMES the speed of sound. Have you ever witnessed an aircraft travelling past you at the speed of sound? It is incredibly breath taking. Now multiply that phenom times 8! Do you still believe people could assemble an entire space station with their bodies undergoing that force? Oh, I forgot. “They” tell us that Space is a vacuum. Yeah, right!
Where is the video proof from the “ISS” that the earth is a ball? They won’t even show an actual view from a window.
NASA has been exposed time and again using the green screen to fake the interior of the ISS. Their one “proof” is a light in the sky whenever they announce it. You cannot view an object less than the size of a football field 250 miles away anymore than you can view a supposed satellite smaller than the size of a bus 22,500 miles away.
Now NASA claims the Earth is not a ball but an “oblate spheroid”, or oblate ellipsoid. When did the shape of the Earth change to that and where is the evidence and proof?! That means the curvature INCREASES as you travel from the top and bottom of the spheroid to the center (Equator). I guess the Earth has become as fat as the American people and needs to go on a diet, also.
Will the globes produced for the indoctrination centers (classrooms) be redesigned to resemble an obese ball? They mock us endlessly and people eat it up! Do you still not believe they are lying about the shape of the Earth?
Yes, we live on a flat plane surrounded by a 200-foot high ice wall “they” call the “continent” of Antarctica. If you don’t believe it, you are Just Another Brick in the Wall as a result of education and thought control. Satan, through Pink Floyd, also conveniently exposes that the Sun is daily “racing around to come up behind you again”.
Prominent explorers such as Captain Cook and others have sailed along the perimeter of the ice wall for well over 60,000 miles without ever witnessing a break in it. They could not have been sailing around a land mass at the bottom of a globe to witness this.
I addition, there is much land beyond the wall that holds our oceans in as Admiral Richard Byrd exposes in this 1954 nationally televised program:
The people in power were not very fond of his admission as he never was permitted to explore again and died 3 years later.
Here is a map showing one of the continents (and much more) that he spoke of below South America:
The same year NASA was formed and Sputnik was sent into the atmosphere, the world’s most powerful governments formed a treaty to declare Antarctica off limits to any “unauthorized” people. To this day, the US military will destroy any ship or airplane that attempts to explore the ice wall and beyond if they disobey orders to retreat. Whatever could they be hiding?
In the Game of Thrones, the video shows a man climbing to the top of the ice wall discovering a well-lit city on the other side.
It has been reported that there are regions of Antarctica that are lush and green. How can that exist if it is supposed to be a barren sheet of ice at the bottom of a globe with the world’s coldest climate?
I could go on and on as there are many more proofs (such as the commercial airline routes) that our home is not a ball. However, I will end on this note: He has given us and testified to “the 4 corners of the Earth’. There are no corners on a ball.
Brian Allen


David April 8, 2020 at 11:00 pm

Greeting Brian. Wow, that’s a lot of information! I’ve seen much of it on flat-earth videos and articles. I’ll address the major points.

I know that you believe that all of the things that you wrote prove that the earth is flat, but it comes down to a really simply proof, that the sun and moon prove every day that the earth cannot be flat.

If the earth was flat, last nights full moon would have appeared above the horizon as a small dot, which would have grown dynamically until it’s overhead, and then it would have shrunk down unto a little ball that disappears above the horizon.

But that’s not what we saw, is it? No, we saw the full moon rise up from below the horizon, stay the same size all the way across the sky, and then set below the western horizon at full size.

The sun is the same way. If you use a solar filter on your camera, to eliminate sun haze when it’s in the eastern or western sky, then you see that it stays the same size all the way across the sky. That is impossible if the earth were flat. This is proven out this page.

I’ve driven past the Spanish Peaks many times on my way to New Mexico, they are amazing! Though you can see them from CO Springs, I doubt that you can see the base of them. You’re welcome to send me a picture of your view.

The horizon does not rise up to meet our eyes, it just seems that way because we’re looking down slightly. You can use a theodolite or the iPhone Theodolite app, to prove that is false. And just like you said, if the earth were a ball, the ball would always be dropping below you, and that’s exactly what a theodolite proves.

You say that you can zoom in on ships which are far away, but that’s for ships that are a few miles out.
You can find the locations of ships on websites, so find a ship that’s 20 miles out and try to zoom in on it. You won’t see it. There’s videos and photos on my Ships And Water Prove The Flat Earth Deception, That Water Curves page that proves you wrong.

It’s ironic that you mention that the ISS is not real, as it was viewable last night from Colorado.

You cite density and buoyancy, but that doesn’t explain why water moves from a high elevation to a lower one; as the water at the high elevation and the lower elevation have the same density.

I believe that the earth is electo-magnetic.

You proclaim that all photos from NASA are fake, but you don’t have one photo of the flat earth from above, showing all of the continents. You don’t have one photo of the dome or the edge.

Notice that I don’t cite NASA on my website. I believe that they are an evil entity, which is deceiving people about many things.

You mention Antarctica, but fail to see that people have circumnavigated it many times; at speeds and times which would only work on a globe earth.

Your supposed flat-earth map is really a north-polar azimuthal equidistant projection of the globe earth. That’s why the continents which are far away from the center are so distorted. And that’s why Antarctica, which is opposite of the North Pole, is rendered as a white ring.

Supposed flat earth maps even tell you that, if you read the print on the maps.

As for the four corners of the earth in the Bible, how exactly does a disc earth have four corners?

It’s really easy to see, when you read the context of the verses, that it’s talking about the four directions, NWES, so those verses don’t prove anything about the shape of the earth.

You have proven nothing, except that the enemy is great at creating false explanations, which mislead people.

The Michelson-Morley and Airy’s Failure experiments proved that the globe earth is the center of the universe.

The mapping of the universe not only shows that the globe earth is the center of the universe; but that the signature of the universe lines up with the equator, the north-south pole and the ecliptic line.

All of this is covered in my book, which can get for free @



Andres September 13, 2020 at 9:12 am

David, you are forgetting there’s an atmosphere present all the time, it is everywhere, we breath from it every single second of our lives, and as you may know, it acts as a huge lens because it contains many gases and tons of water. You stated “If the earth was flat, last nights full moon would have appeared above the horizon as a small dot, which would have grown dynamically until it’s overhead, and then it would have shrunk down unto a little ball that disappears above the horizon”. I ask you: Have you seen a red sunset? The Sun seems to get bigger before it disappears “behind” the horizon, right? How is that possible? Isn’t it the Sun, according to heliocentric and your geocentric theory, always at the same distance from Earth, at least during a day? Aren’t you saying the Sun remains the same size the whole day likewise the Moon? Let me explain my point here: the Sun seems to get bigger while “coming down” during the sunset because of high humidity levels, meaning, in that exact moment during the sunset there is a big amount of water in the atmosphere near the viewer location, in other words, it’s a very humid afternoon or night, around 75% of humidity or more. Every water molecule in the air acts like lens that create a much higher refraction factor that deviates not only light, but also it changes the light wave lengths and frequencies perceived by the viewer’s eyes (which also explains the red color). The moment you put a very refractory lens in front of an object, while the object goes away from the viewer, it appears to get bigger and bigger, which is what happens to Moon and Sun and we’ve seen many times during sunrises and sunsets and nights, at least I have. Something especial you have to take in account is the water in the atmosphere is heavier than the other gases in the air and tends to be at lower altitudes and that is why we don’t see a red noon or something like that, we are able to see this phenomena only when the Sun and the Moon are close to the horizon. Now extrapolate the information I just finished explaining: eliminate the extra humidity from air, lets say it is a normal day with 35% of humidity, typical for a non-cloudy summer day where a sunset is perfectly visible for anyone driving home after a work day; the Sun truly appears to have the same size all the time, exactly as you said, and I suppose every single person in this world have seen the same thing; but if there’s still water in the air we should watch a red sunset very single day, but we don’t, which means that refractory effect must be visible in other way: of course the refraction is clearly visible because we see a same size Sun, at least in appearance. If you take your camera and measure with high precision the size of the Sun, it is never the same size because the atmosphere is not static, it changes day after day; the problem is those changes are not perceivable at plain sight; and by the way, a light filter does not eliminate the refractory effect from the atmosphere. What you mislead to explain would be possible only in a very dry place, I’m talking about humidity levels below 10%, and I doubt you can find many places like that in this world, except for probably some deserts and obviously Antarctica that supposedly is the driest place on Earth but who knows? Nobody can go there to make an independent research because we’re banned to do so by Antarctic treaty.
Speaking about Antarctica, here is what you said: “You mention Antarctica, but fail to see that people have circumnavigated it many times; at speeds and times which would only work on a globe earth”. We obviously don’t know the real shape of our world, there is no map that shows the real location and shape of continents, not even the globe model can do that. But circumnavigations of Captain Cook tell a different story about the size of Antarctica: Captain Cook traveled 60.000 miles along the Antarctic coastline to make one circumnavigation. It doesn’t make sense if you think Antarctic coastline is only 11.116 miles according to Wikipedia. Some “debunkers” say it makes perfect sense if you consider Cook made very winding routes but that would mean he barely approached the Antarctic coastline, which gets refuted by Cook’s writings describing the big ice walls “extending east and west far beyond the reach of our sight” and “never once finding an inlet or path through or beyond the massive glacial wall”, which would mean he navigated following the coastline for many miles. What I am trying to say is that circumnavigation in a Flat Earth model is totally possible, the problem is, we the people that are not part of the elite, don’t have the resources to make a real independent research about the real shape of our world, and worse if we can’t even get close to Antarctica.
Regarding the horizon rising up to our eyes’ level, there is a really big, huge contradiction in the globe logic: globers say the curve is not visible at plain sight, and then they dare to show as a proof of the curve ships “disappearing” behind the curve at 20 miles away; then they defend the globe saying the curve is only visible above 100.000 feet and when you ride a plane and you think on the ships disappearing at 20 miles, you watch from the window and there’s still a flat horizon and you can see 200 miles away and no drop from the sphere. If we were in a sphere and ships disappear at 20 miles, there is no way the horizon remains at the same level the whole time, no matter if you use a theodolite or not, there should be a drop in front of our eyes more and more evident while the plane ascends.
The Michelson-Morley and Airy’s Failure experiments proved the Earth is stationary and the stars and planets are moving above us. The first one measured the interference between two light beams coming from perpendicular sides of a table and using prisms and mirror the lights were set to get at the same projection point. If one of the beams would have gotten to the projection point at a different moment, meant the Earth would have been moving, it would have shown the two beams canceling to each other, which never happened, meaning the Earth was not moving; this experiment was latter refuted by Einstein’s Relativity but you might know there is no demonstration of Relativity so far, Relativity is purely mathematics on a blackboard with no experimental demonstration. The second experiment we have a telescope pointing to a star; first the telescope is tilted to reach the star light, then, to make the light slower and measurable the telescope should be filled with water; if the telescope would have been moving, it would need to be tilted a bit more due to water refraction, but if the star was the one moving the telescope should have remained in the same position. In 1871, George Airy performed the experiment that demonstrated the Earth was stationary by shown the telescope didn’t need to be tilted to reach the light from the star, and that is why it is called the Airy’s Failure in reference to it failing accommodate to the most accepted heliocentric theory.
Speaking about the ISS: how is it even possible you saw the ISS from land if it is at around 254 miles of height??? An airplane Boeing 474 flying at 33.000 feet (6,25 miles) is barely visible. I’ve seen pictures of the ISS passing in front of the Moon and comparing it with the above-mentioned plane at 6,25 miles height also passing in front of the Moon, they both are almost the same size. That is the best way to make oneself a fool. What people is photographing is not the ISS, they put something up there, possibly a plane or an aerostatic globe, exactly to make you fools.
In reference to other parts of your web page where you discuss paths the Sun and the Moon follow, and also the star trails viewed from north and south hemispheres, you are making merely math operations without think (again) there is an atmosphere above us, a body that covers everything and distorts all the lights coming from outside of it, a body that can make things look totally different, and only God knows what really is above us, only Him knows what this really is and how the Sun, the Moon and the stars work. If you really want to demonstrate the globe you have to create a model where the atmosphere is included and that changes everything because nothing is going to match the reality because the Earth is not a globe.
Best Regards


David September 14, 2020 at 3:02 pm

That’s a lot of explanations Andres! You mentioned the Michelson-Morley and Airy’s Failure experiments. I believe that the globe earth is geocentric and not moving, so those experiments confirm my belief.

The red sunset is just sun flare in the hazy atmosphere of the sky, which causes the sun to appear large. Use a solar filter and you see the true size of the sun, which stays the same size all the way across the sky.

Best Regards


David November 5, 2020 at 8:22 pm

The irony your statement is that the flat earth theory is being used by the evil ones to deflect people away from the truth, that the globe earth is at the center of the universe, which proves that there’s a Creator, and refutes the theory of evolution.


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