If you’re a flat earther, have you studied the context of the Bible verses which are being cited to proclaim “the Bible says flat earth”?
This book goes through all 240 verses that people like Nathan Roberts cite, to show you the proper context; because if you’re promoting this list, then you’re accountable for the explanations.
It gives a fresh perspective about the ‘firmament‘ of Genesis; the ‘circle‘ of Isaiah 40:22; the clay turned to the ‘seal‘ in Job 38:13-14; the ‘pillars‘ of 1 Samuel 2:8; the sun going forth in his ‘circuit‘ of Psalms 19:6; and much more.
If you know someone who believes that the Scriptures describes a domed, flat earth; it will help you understand their rationale in citing these verses.
If you’re a believer who’s researching the flat earth, this book is critical for you.
If you believe in the heliocentric universe, have you read what Moses, Job, David, and Isaiah; declared about the earth, the sun, and the stars? The Bible describes a sun that moves in a circuit, which has been stopped, and has been moved back. And it describes an earth that is fixed. The Bible is purely geocentric, and there is no Scriptural justification for the heliocentric model.
The Bible also describes the lower circular layers which hold back the fountains of the deep; the spherical layers of atmosphere around the globe earth; the constellations on the ecliptic which encircles the globe earth; and the celestial sphere of stars which surround the globe earth as a tent, as a tabernacle.
The enemy is hiding the geocentric globe earth universe with the false narratives of the heliocentric universe and the flat earth model.
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The stars in the southern hemisphere prove that the earth is a globe.
On the flat earth model, if people in Australia, South Africa and South America, were all facing South, they would be facing opposite directions, so there’s no way that they can all see Sigma Octantis in the Octans constellation, which does not move. Yet people in those three Southern Hemisphere continents can look south and see stars circling around the south celestial pole.
This proves that the north and south celestial pole stars are at the top and bottom of the celestial sphere, and the other stars are circling the globe Earth.
Flat-earthers proclaim that this is possible because when people are looking south, they’re seeing a reflection off of the glass dome of the stars in the northern hemisphere.
But that is a false explanation, as the stars in the northern hemisphere are different than the stars in the southern hemisphere. Here are the constellations in the northern hemisphere.
Here are the constellations in the southern hemisphere.
Question for flat earthers: What is the scientific explanation for how the sun changes its path, to move from the larger circle of the Tropic of Capricorn (32,729 mile circumference) to the much smaller circle of the Tropic of Cancer (18,504 mile circumference)?
And what is the scientific explanation for how the sun changes speed from 1,322 MPH on the larger circle to 771 MPH on the smaller circle, to complete exactly one revolution per day?
Please comment below. Thank you!
Note: the numbers for the tropics are based on the supposed flat earth map, not on the globe. The supposed flat earth map is distorted, as it’s a north-polar azimuthal equidistant projection of the globe earth. So though the Tropics on the globe earth have a circumference of 22,847 miles, on the flat earth map they are distorted. Using the equator as a baseline at 24,901 miles in circumference; the numbers of the Tropic of Cancer (18,504 miles) and the Tropic of Capricorn (32,729 miles) are based on the geometry of the azimuthal projection; not the actual globe.
After a lot of research, I believe that the enemy has created a deception regarding the design of the universe.
The Illuminati card game has a Flat Earth card that says “People laugh, but the flat earthers know something”. What flat earthers know is that the earth isn’t flying through space orbiting the sun. Astronomers and scientists have not proved that the Earth is moving.
And from our Earthly perspective, the planets and stars appear the same regardless of whether it’s the Copernican heliocentric view or the Tychonic geocentric view.
The deception is that the enemy has caused people to promote the heliocentric view based on philosophy, to not involve a Creator in the explanation of the design of the universe. And that led to the big bang theory, the theory of evolution, etc.; all of which steals glory from our Creator, and deceives people.
It wasn’t until scientific probes produced data about the radiation of the expanding universe, and the orientation of the quasars and radio galaxies; that researches were able to see that all of those things were pointing back to Earth as the center of the universe.
These findings were published in a book titled ‘Geocentrism 101 – An Introduction into the Science of Geocentric Cosmology‘ in 2013, and then explained in a movie called The Principle in late 2014.
Then shortly afterward the flat earth theory was aggressively pushed on YouTube and Facebook, to try to cover over the evidence, and to cause people to dismiss anyone who teaches that the Earth is geocentric.
The enemy has created a false dichotomy, so that the debate is between the geocentric flat earth vs. the heliocentric globe earth; so that people don’t consider the third option, that of the geocentric globe earth.
It puts the Earth at the center of the universe, proving a Designer/Creator, and explains why stars perfectly circle the Earth; while maintaining the laws of physics of the globe earth and the surrounding elaborate universe, which is a precision time-piece. Please read the geocentric Earth page, to see the scientific research that proves that we are at the center of the universe.
I’m not declaring that the earth is geocentric, as I can’t prove it scientifically; but when you look at how Bible verses seem to point to a geocentric earth, it’s an option that we need to consider. Read through the website, and you decide.
If you’re a flat-earther, you can decide to click away, thinking that you know the truth; but I would hope that your goal is to find the whole truth, not to defend a position.
People like Nathan Roberts and Rob Skiba point to Bible verses which they proclaim prove that the earth is flat; but the verses are taken out of context, and some of them prove that the earth is a globe.
Please read this Biblical Proofs Of The Geocentric Globe Earth study and decide for yourself.
Why would the enemy create the flat earth deception? Because most flat earthers are sharing truth in other areas, whether it’s about coming out of churchianity, about the Illuminati and their agenda, etc.; so by getting them to believe in the flat earth, they cause family and friends to stop listening to all that they teach.
On this page I will address the major challenges that I’ve found with the flat earth theory, which are explained in more detail on the other pages.
Here’s a video from the Geographic South Pole, looking straight up, which proves that the earth is not flat.
We can see the perfect circle of stars which is only possible on the globe earth, as no point on the supposed ice ring would show the stars circling overhead.
Here’s a video of a 5-day time-lapse from March 8-13, 2017, taken from the Amundsen–Scott South Pole Station, which proves that the earth is not flat.
Airplane Video Proves Sun Is Not 3,000 Miles Above The Flat Earth
This observation is impossible on a Flat Earth with a Sun 3000 Miles above. We can clearly see the Sun on the Horizon from 43,000 ft. The clouds beneath us are illuminated from below but are dark on top.
This geometry is impossible on a Flat Earth. Of course – it works just fine on a Globe.
The Nikon P900 camera debunks the flat earth.
This video shows one ship that is moored near the horizon line, and the distant ship behind it which is well below the horizon; proving the curvature of the earth.
Some flat earthers commented that you should see the distant ship ’tilting’ if the Earth is curved, but the distance equates to only .23 degrees of tilt, which is not perceivable.
Sorry Flat Earthers The Equinox Geometry does NOT work on a Flat Earth.
The Flat Earth fails to explain the real observations we can make on the Equinox twice per year.
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A commercial pilot who is based out of Australia, who makes international flights in the southern hemisphere, shows that flat earthers cannot produce a legitimate pilots flight plan.
The video description says: A message to Flat Earthers. If you can’t show me a map that works and you can’t tell me how to navigate precisely around the real Earth you are wasting your time telling me the Earth is Flat. I can and do navigate precisely around the real Earth and I have been doing this safely for over 30 years using the Globe. Time to start producing real results guys. The same old nonsense arguments won’t cut it here any longer.
Flat earthers misrepresent the size of the sun, to proclaim that it gets smaller as it sets.
Here’s one of Wolfie6020‘s short videos where he used two cameras to record at the same time, one with a solar filter, one without.
This video shows how the size of the sun in the hazy sky changes as the camera automatically adjusts.
Flat earthers tell us to trust our perspective, but when we do that, we see that the sun and moon do not line up with the flat earth theory.
Flat earthers proclaim that the moon is a flat disc, but that simply cannot be true.
This is so easily disproved, that it’s nonsensical for flat earthers to proclaim it.
The shadows on the moon prove that it is being illuminated from an external light source.
Flat earthers cite Genesis 1:16 and say the the world ‘light‘ means that the moon is self-illuminated.
“And God made two great lights; the greater light to rule the day, and the lesser light to rule the night: he made the stars also.”
The Hebrew word for ‘light’ points to a luminous body. It does not say that it provides its own illumination. ma’owr; properly, a luminous body or luminary, i.e. (abstractly) light (as an element): figuratively, brightness, i.e.cheerfulness; specifically, a chandelier:—bright, light.
Of course they have no way to scientifically explain how the moon illuminates itself, like we do for the Sun. And they cannot explain how the moon changes its illumination so that we see crescent moons and half moons.
It’s impossible for people on the flat earth model to see the same side of the moon.
We would see different sides of the moon, on the flat earth model.
The sun and moon do not vanish as a small dot over the horizon; but rather, they rise up from under the horizon and set below the horizon.
On the flat earth, objects that are moving away would simply grow smaller and disappear at the vanishing point, but they would always stay above the horizon. But every day we see the Sun rise up from under the horizon, and set down below the horizon.
It’s impossible for the sun to rise due East and set due West on the Equinox days.
The sun does not rise and set at the proper locations on the flat earth model.
The paths of the 2017 and 2024 solar eclipses across the United States are impossible to explain on the flat earth model.
There is no scientific explanation for the solar eclipse on the flat earth model, and we can clearly see that the path of the eclipse across the United States, cannot match up with the circular path of the flat earth sun.
How do flat earthers scientifically predict upcoming solar and lunar eclipses? They don’t! There is no scientific data which shows what causes the eclipses (many flat earthers say that the moon doesn’t cause the solar eclipse), and when they will happen.
The Spring and Fall Equinox is a great time to prove whether the earth is flat or a globe.
Geodetic surveying shows that angles of the measured triangle exceed 180 degrees, proving that Earth is curved. This is called ‘spherical excess’.
Flat earthers push aside 100’s of years worth of measurements that have been recorded by geodesic surveyors all over the earth.
These surveyors have painstakingly taken measurements from point to point, and using geometry and triangulation, have determined the size of continents, and the shape of the earth. Triangulation on a flat earth would yield 180 degree sums, but surveyors have found that the sums are greater than 180 degrees, which proves the arc of the earth. Read Geodesy Proof Of The Flat Earth Deception.
One of the biggest perspective problems is that flat earthers are applying the 8″ per mile squared earth curvature formula to wrong line.
The 8″ per mile squared calculation does not measure the curvature of the line of sight, your horizon line; it extends far beyond what you can see.
Let’s apply this to a picture to see the difference between the level line and the horizon line.
Here is the Earth’s Curve Horizon, Bulge, Drop, and Hidden Calculator, which people use to try to prove that the earth isn’t curved. This is the default setting of the globe earth with a radius of 3,959 miles, which shows that if your view height is 6 feet, then your horizon line is 3 miles away. And that’s pretty much what we see in real life.
Most photos from flat earthers are taken from an elevated position, which extends the horizon line; so just plug the estimated height of the elevated position into the Metabunk Earth’s Curve Formula, and you will see that the horizon line matches up; proving the curved Earth.
In the below calculation I used the Advanced option to add 7 zeroes after the planet radius, to mimic a planet that is so big that the flat top is bigger than the supposed flat earth. And it shows that if your view height is 6 feet, your horizon line is 9,482 miles away.
Now of course your eyes can’t see that far, but a good telescope would be able to see across the flat plain to be able to see that far. The point is that if the earth really were flat, then you would be able to see much, much further than 3 miles.
Californians should be able to see Hawaii with a telescope, or Mt. McKinley, which is 20,000 feet high. From atop of Pike Peaks, which is 14,000 feet high, I should be able to use a powerful telescope to see all of America.
But the reason that we can only see to the horizon line is because the earth is curved; you are seeing the bulge of the Earth.
Here is a more technical explanation of the Earth curvature formula, to see how it is being misapplied by flat earthers.
There are a lot of explanations on this website which counter the flat earth explanations, but first let’s set the record straight about the map that most flat-earthers are using.
The map that flat-earthers use actually represents the globe earth!
Before computers, mapping out airplane flight routes was a challenge, as they had to use a globe, or images of the northern and southern hemispheres, like these.
To resolve this problem they created the azimuthal equidistant map, which allowed them to see all of the continents on one 2D map.
In order to do this, the bottom half of the globe earth had to be flared out into the outer circles. On the north-polar azimuthal projection map the northern hemisphere is shown in the inner circle, and the southern hemisphere is shown in the flared out circle that surrounds it.
These maps can be centered from anywhere. If you were planning flights from London, you would center it on London. North-polar azimuthal projection maps were used during times of war, and the polar route is the shortest distance between countries.
Rendering a globe earth onto a 2D image always cause some distortion. On the azimuthal projection map, the further away the land mass is from the center point, the greater the distortion. This is why Australia looks so wide, as it’s been stretched.
Since the continent of Antarctica is opposite of the North Pole on the globe earth, the only way to graphically represent it on the north-polar azimuthal projection map is by turning it inside out, and spreading it out as a white ring on the outside edge.
The South Pole is graphically represented by the outside line of the map. You can see that the white ring has several bays that match up to the Ross Sea, which is close to New Zealand; and Weddell Sea, which is close to South America.
Below is a south-polar azimuthal equidistant projection map. You can see that Antarctica and Australia are now normal size, as they are close to the center point; but North America and Euro-Russia are very distorted. And you can see that the outside edge is blue, because opposite of the South Pole is water on the North Pole.
Here is a equidistant projection map that is centered on Santiago, Chile. North and South America are normal size, as is Antarctica, since they are close to the center point; but Euro-Russia is greatly distorted, so much so that it is graphically rendered as a ring around the outside edge (just like the north-polar map).
You can make your own azimuthal equidistant projection maps on this website. You just need to enter the location; such as 90N,0W for the north pole; and 90S, 0W for the south pole.
Here is a Hammond’s north-polar equidistant map for airplane travel, which is the same map that flat earthers use.
It has both sides of the globe represented, which are declaring that it is a projection of the globe earth onto a 2D map. You can clearly see the continent of Antarctica on the bottom of the globes in white.
This close-up shows you that the globe declares the continent of Antarctica and the South Pole; and then again on the projection map. It is declaring that the outside line is the South Pole. It’s clearly telling you that the continent of Antarctica on the globe earth is represented as the white ring on the projection map.
On the bottom left of the map is a guide to the distances between meridian (N-S) lines. The distance increases up to the equator, and then decrease at the same rate to the South Pole. It’s declaring that though on the projection map it appears that the distances are become greater (because the southern hemisphere is flared out so that you can see it on a 2D projection map), that in fact they are getting smaller because the earth is globe-shaped.
This Air Map Of The World from 1945 tells the truth, that the north-polar azimuthal equidistant projection represents a globe.
Notice that it doesn’t have an ice wall! That is because they didn’t include the continent of Antarctica, because it is so greatly distorted.
Here is the call out box on the top right:
It says “Since it is impossible to spread the surface of a globe on a flat surface without distortion, all maps are distorted in some respects. In this map the distortion occurs in the east and west distances. This distortion increases gradually from the North Pole to the Equator, and then quite rapidly to the outer limits. The distortion of the Antarctic areas would be so great that these are not shown.”
So they didn’t even include the supposed ‘ice wall’, because it’s not an ice wall; it’s the continent of Antarctica, which is greatly distorted by the algorithm used to make the projection map. Since Antarctica is opposite of the North Pole on the globe earth, the only way for the program to render it was to stretch it out as a circle. The outer circle is the South Pole. The continent has been inverted.
To prove that the supposed ice wall is really the distorted and inverted continent of Antarctica, here is an image that has the outer white ring and the continent of Antarctica.
The image keeps the land mass around the outside edge, and has the continent of Antarctica in the middle, as that is what is on the bottom of the globe. The land mass is exaggerated, as the outside ring representation is exaggerated. The continent is inverted to match the inverted outer circle, as the equidistant view is from the top down.
Look at the left side of the continent, which is small compared to the right side. That matches the thin land mass of the left, compared to the right. Now look at the peninsula on the left lower side at 240 degrees. It matches the peninsula on Antarctica.
The top of the circle is very thin and has a recess. That matches the curvature of the top of Antarctica.
On the bottom right at 110 degrees, there is a small indentation. That matches the bay on the southeast part of Antarctica.
Let’s take it one step further. The bottom left red line shows that the meridian lines runs from the bay of Antarctica through South America. The bottom left red lines shows that the meridian line runs from the small bay runs through Asia. The top red line shows that the meridian line runs from the other large bay in between North America and Russia.
The azimuthal equidistant map projection is only a tool, to help determine distances and flight maps on a globe earth.
Every time a flat-earther posts an explanation about direct airplane flights that they say is wrong on a globe earth; they are using this equidistant map, which is a globe map. Or worse, they use a Mercator projection map.
Flat earthers take words out of context to say that the Bible declares a flat earth.
They cite the words “pillars of the earth” to proclaim that the flat earth sit on top of pillars.
“He raiseth up the poor out of the dust, and lifteth up the beggar from the dunghill, to set them among princes, and to make them inherit the throne of glory: for the pillars of the earth are the LORD’S, and he hath set the world upon them.” 1 Samuel 2:8
Read 1 Samuel 2:2-7, 9-10; you see that the word ‘pillars’ is referring to leaders of the earth, not physical pillars that support the flat earth.
Just like the saying that someone is a ‘pillar in the community’, it is declaring they are a strong leader. The context is clearly about Elohim raising seemingly lowly people and making them the leaders of the earth. It is not talking about the design of the physical earth!
Flat earthers say that the ‘circle‘ in Isaiah 40:22 is declaring a flat circle earth.
It is he that sitteth upon the circle of the earth, and the inhabitants thereof are as grasshoppers; that stretcheth out the heavens as a curtain, and spreadeth them out as a tent to dwell in:
Let’s back up to get the context of the verse. Elohim is declaring the glory of His creation.
And to whom would you liken Ěl? And what likeness would you compare to Him? The workman moulds a graven image, and the goldsmith overspreads it with gold, and the silversmith casts silver chains. Isaiah 40:18-19
He is declaring that the works of man are nothing as compared to His creativity and power. Then He points out His Mazzoroth, the twelve signs in the heavenly circle, which have proclaimed His plan of redemption from the beginning.
Did you not know? Have you not heard? Has it not been declared to you from the beginning? Have you not understood from the foundations of the earth? Isaiah 40:21
Do you bring out the constellations (Mazzoroth) in its season? Or do you lead the Bear with its sons. Job 38:32
The CIRCLE in Isaiah 40:22 is the Mazzoroth in the sky above, that has 12 constellations in a circle on the ecliptic, which declare the Gospel. It is like a curtain which covers the earth, and in which the stars dwell.
We see that Elohim tells them to look up to the celestial sphere (circle) of the stars of the Mazzoroth.
Lift up your eyes on high and see. Who has created these? He who is bringing out their host by number, He calls them all by name, by the greatness of His might and the strength of His power – not one is missing. Isaiah 40:26
“He appoints the number of the stars, He gives names to all of them.” Psalm 147:4
So one can clearly see that when Elohim referred to the circle of the Earth, He is referring to the circle of the Mazzoroth which acts as a constant witness to those on earth, about His great power, and about His redemption plan.
The same Hebrew word, chuwg, is used in Job 22:14 to describe the circuit of heaven. “Thick clouds are a covering to him, that he seeth not; and he walketh in the circuit (chuwg) of heaven.”
Stop manipulating the Word of Elohim! Read Biblical Proofs Of The Flat Earth Deception.
One of the most misleading things that proponents of the flat earth say is to ‘use your perspective as proof‘.
The challenge is that we are a small human on a large earth, so our perception is distorted.
We can only see so wide and far, so staring at a horizon that is only a few miles wide, we cannot see the curvature.
Flatearthers posts pictures from airplanes which seem to have a straight horizon, but when you put a line across the photo, you can see the curvature. In this image you can see the line is level with the horizon at the airplane pillar, and that there is a gap on the left and right side.
On this picture the red line is level on the left side, but you can clearly see the gap on the right side.
On this picture the red line is even on the sides, and you can see the curve of the earth in the center.
Flatearthers counter by claiming that airplanes have curved glass that distorts the horizon.
Do you really think that airplanes would have glass in the cockpit that distorts the pilots view?
Does the windshield in your car cause the horizon to curve? No!
Flat-earthers push aside the witness and photos of countless astronomers throughout the years and around the world, who have taken pictures of the planets and distant galaxies.
They proclaim that there are no real planets, and that they are just projections or lights. There are astronomy clubs at many schools and astronomy groups in most major cities, who take pictures of the moon, stars, planets and distant galaxies. There is just no way that all of that is a conspiracy to hide the flat earth theory.
You can buy phone apps that show you where to look in the sky for planets, so that you know where to look with your optical telescope.
You can visit astronomy clubs and they will let you look through their optical telescopes, to see the planets and distance galaxies for yourself. There is simply no excuse for this laziness!
Read Astronomy Proves The Flat Earth Deception.
Flat earthers push aside the witness of people who work in companies that use satellites.
They proclaim that there are no satellites, but that everything is done through cables or ground-based antennas.
- Meteorologists around the world use satellites to show storms like hurricanes.
- Hughes Satellite internet service can’t work with cables or land-based antennas, as the locations that receive the signals are too remote.
- Navstar GPS works in remote areas through satellites.
- Look at a house with the Dish Network, Echostar, DirectTV. What direction is the dish pointed to? The sky!!!
- Look at a remote-location TV news crew, where is their dish pointed to? The sky!
- Sirius radio provides signals to you when you are far away from ground based antennas
- Look at remote military units and military facilities to see where their dishes are pointed to. The sky!
To deny satellites is to deny the existence of a space program covering the US, EU, Russia, China, India, Brazil, employing tens of millions of people and spending tens of billions of dollars a year, putting satellites in orbit, sending probes everywhere, creating the GPS system, satellite TV, etc.
It would mean that all of that is faked, on an ongoing basis, and none of these tens of millions of people has ever exposed the lie. Read Satellites Prove The Flat Earth Deception.
They push aside the many people who have been to Antarctica as a researcher or tourist.
Flat earthers proclaim that the ice ring is protected so that nobody can see the end of the flat earth. But that is ludicrous as people visit every year for research and for tourism.
Read Antarctica Proves The Flat Earth Deception
So why is the flat earth a topic these days?
More and more people on Facebook and YouTube are promoting the flat earth theory, with ridiculous explanations that prove nothing. Many of these people expose other conspiracies that have been foisted upon us; and they expose the truth about the Father and Son’s true names, about the Holy Feast Days, corrupt Bibles, etc.
So I believe that the enemy is getting them to believe in the flat-earth theory, so that others will discount all that they are proclaiming. It’s called a PSYOP, a Psychological Operation.
I think that flat-earthers are going to make everyone so tired of hearing about it, that people will not seek any of the truths that they share. Many of them opening condemn everyone who doesn’t believe it, calling them fools and globeheads.
The story that Christians believed in a flat earth until Columbus’ time, and for some time thereafter, began as part of a fictional story that was elevated to historical fact by late 19th-century Darwinists who used it primarily as a means to ridicule Christians. Sadly that appears to be happening again, as truthers who proclaim the flat earth are being ridiculed.
I hope that this page has helped to open your eyes to the truth, that the earth is a globe.
If you have some insight to prove that what I have shown is not correct, please comment below. If you just want to make statements, without any proof; or if you just want to make accusations against me; then your comment may not be added to the discussion.
David
p.s. My explanations are logical, and are based on what we can see. I don’t offer scientific explanations, because that is not my strength. Sadly, I see flat earthers mocking scientific explanations about the globe earth, but giving really unscientific answers.
You refer in your first proof that the storms would be defying physics if they spun on a flat earth. Your quote was “But if they did somehow deny physics and spin due to an outside force”, so if I read this correctly you’re stating that the law of physics claim you don’t need an outside force in order to spin? Or is your statement accidentally incorrect?
So you’re saying the spin of the globe in itself is this outside force necessary for storms to spin, or is it the wind being created from such a fast spin ( if a car drives by me at 100 MPH I would feel the wind in my face created from such speeds ) of 1K miles per hour?
While you clarify this for me, if you think defying physics is an indication for a round or flat earth, then the axis of Earth also defies the laws of physics as there is nothing anchoring it, thus the physics would state it should be spiraling away without any uniformity.
do not ignore the Bible. It is Literal. The literal Word of God. Moon has it’s own glow it doesn’t depend on the sun to shine it’s light. God is ABOVE us in his throne
Do not ignore the obvious! The crescent moon is seen in the Western sky at sunset. Every day after that it is 1/14th further East at sunset, and it is 1/14th more illuminated. On the 7th day the half moon is seen overhead at sunset. On the 14th day the full moon is seen in on the Eastern horizon at sunset. It’s obvious that the sun is lighting up the moon, as we can clearly see the direct relationship between the position of the sun and moon.
This site admits NASA has lied about and faked many things just like i admit this site is no different than NASA
lol this site is a joke
An opinion means nothing. Try offering actual proof that the explanations on this website are wrong.
See if you can handle this one –
His explanations are a joke, which can be disproved.
I would be willing to see the one point you asked me to see, but Edward Hendrie never claimed that was a factual map of flat earth — at least not in his book. From my understanding it was a projection for the sake of illustration.
How can you know the major talking points of his 600 page book if you’ve never read it?
Concerning his eschatology, yes, he does indeed teach of the papacy’s role in end times, and yes he does speak of the Black Pope/Jesuit General as key players of Revelation and Daniel. Whether you coin them the same phrase (“false prophet”, “little horn”) I do not know. I have not compared those details. But his eschatology sounds a lot like yours, to be frank.
You are incorrect in your assertions, which is part of the reason this ongoing debate even exists. “Flat earthers just look at the horizon, and proclaim that it looks flat, and their scientific research is done.” The Michelson/Morley experiment proving the earth is not spinning has NEVER been debunked or rendered illegitimate. There were outcries against many of the theories (gravitation, relativity, etc.) that have YET TO BE PROVEN in the day the theories were “released” to the world via the scientific community, from those IN the scientific community. But as history will attest, if you repeat a lie often enough, it will eventually be believed. Follow the trail of who promoted such theories. It’s enlightening.
If you’re unwilling to actually read and examine evidence from other brothers and sisters of the faith, there is no reason to dialogue any further. There are some excellent resources available from believers who substantiate their questioning of the system’s “answers” by actual facts: historical, scientific, and even more compelling: Biblical. It seems unreasonable (and maybe vain?) for you to assert that your website here has proven the earth a globe and there’s no need to look further. If the evidence wasn’t so contradictory, you wouldn’t even have this website. There is clearly enough data to make thousands of people question the answers our society has given us — on this matter and others. As a believer, I just asked you to consider it.
No need for reply. I won’t trouble you again with a different perspective. I wish you well.
Elaine, I obviously have done quite a bit of research, and I have found enough proof to believe that the flat earth model does not work. And I have found proof that the earth is curved. Does that mean that I’m unreasonable or vain? No. You are doing the same thing with your believe in the flat earth. As for Hendrie, I distrusted him before his flat earth book.
I have other priorities, like teaching people that most of Revelation has been fulfilled during the last 1,900 years; where we are at now on the fulfillment timeline; and what will happen next as we await Messiah’s return. http://revelationtimelinedecoded.com/revelation-fulfillment-timeline-summary/
That the 70th week of Daniel was fulfilled on time, and it is not a future 7-year tribulation period; nor will there be a pre-trib rapture. http://70thweekofdaniel.com
That what Messiah described in the Olivet Discourse was fulfilled in the 1st century, and is not about the end times. http://theolivetdiscourse.com
Hendrie is not teaching you any of that!!!
May the Father bless you and keep you!
David
David, I would implore you to do some reading from some thorough researchers on flat earth. I’ve finished Hendrie’s book, “The Greatest Lie on Earth…” You seemed reluctant or unwilling to read it when I asked you about it before. You asserted Hendrie was a Jesuit or something of the sort (can’t find the original comment), and when I countered of his conversion (wrong word maybe), you countered something to the effect it wasn’t genuine. (don’t know how you “know” that, as you didn’t substantiate it) You claimed he was disinforming.
After wading through his book, I quote him on page 462: “…Roman Catholicism is essentially Kabbalistic Judaism all dressed up for Gentiles.”
Also, “There is a clear parallel between the traditions of the Pharisees of old and those of modern Roman Catholic priestcraft. The Roman Catholic Church follows the practice of the Jews and calls the combination of man’s tradition and God’s word ‘the Word of God.'”
On the following page, he makes the distinction between the Talmud and Torah and explains how the RCC follow suit with the Jewish usurpation of the Word with their traditions from the Kabbalistic Talmud.
On page 489 Hendrie writes, “Both the Talmudic Jews and the Vatican share that common Babylonian root.”
After giving quite some history, he warns on page 508, “He who has eyes let him see through the pious facade of Rome. He who has understanding let him understand the danger posed by Rome and the Jesuits. The Roman Catholic Church never changes.”
While I didn’t agree with all of Hendrie’s deductions and especially did not agree with chapter 30, I found his research thorough and the experiments and other credible science data points compelling and in some instances, damning to the propaganda machine of an elite determined to eradicate truth in exchange for a culture that can be manipulated and controlled.
The Michelson/Morley experiment, Samuel Rowbotham’s extremely thorough experiments and scientific data, and the Sagnac experiment are all unanswered by the scientific community. The absurdity of Einstein’s theory of relativity (mocked by Tesla himself in 1935) as an alleged and supposed answer to Michelson/Morley’s faultless work is laid out plainly, as are a slew of scientists who contradict modern science’s claims and expose the faults within.
If one is honest in one’s pursuit of truth, honestly looking at these data points is only fair. (And I do not mean in a superfluous from the hip manner, but in a roll up your sleeves, lay down your prejudices and really listen and learn way.)
David Wardlaw Scott took it upon himself to publish his own work (“Terra Firm…”) on the matter in 1901, and just the first paragraph of his preface should speak of his integrity:
“I am now an old man, and, had I consulted my own comfort, would never have penned a line of this book, as for some years I have had cataract in both eyes, so that it was not without difficulty that I could read or write. So great, however, appeared to be the need, and being still anxious to serve my generation, I determined to undertake this work, in order to expose the fallacies of Modern Astronomy, which are so contrary to the Word of God, and so conducive to the promotion of Infidelity. I do not enter the lists arrayed in the panoply of Neo-Science, to fight this great Goliath, but only with a few pebbles of the brook, yet I trust that, with God’s blessing, the attempt may not be altogether fruitless.”
If noble men and women of God have made serious efforts at serious personal costs to speak on this subject in a manner that contradicts modern thinking, it only seems prudent to at least prayerfully examine their evidence without prejudice. I humbly ask you to consider this because of your stance against it, but having not an answer to the still unanswered claims of these experiments, data and research of these other men of God.
God bless you.
Elaine, I had stated that Edward Hendrie grew up a Catholic. He attended Notre Dame and a Jesuit law school. So I do not trust him, as he is Jesuit-trained.
I don’t recall making any statement about his conversion. I simply said that he gives a lot of true information, but ultimately he deceives you about key points.
Sure, he points out that the Roman Church practices a man-made religion. Is he proclaiming that the office of the papacy fulfills Bible prophecy as the Little Horn of Daniel 7, the Son of Perdition of 2 Thessalonians 2, and the antichrist beast of Revelation 13? http://revelationtimelinedecoded.com/the-antichrist-sea-beast-of-revelation-13-is-the-popes-of-the-roman-catholic-church/
Telling people that the Jesuits are dangerous, is not the same thing as telling them that the Jesuit General is THE FALSE PROPHET of Revelation, who controls the world as the leader of the Roman earth beast. http://revelationtimelinedecoded.com/the-earth-beast-of-revelation-13-jesuit-generals-of-rome/
And as I said before, I know the major talking points of his book, and I can disprove them. A globe map is on the cover of his book, but he says that it’s a flat earth map.
It’s a north-polar azimuthal projection of the globe earth. It distorts land masses in the southern areas, which is why Australia is twice as wide as the United States. It rendered the continent of Antarctica, which is opposite of the North Pole, into a white ring around the projection. Some north-polar azimuthal projection don’t include the white ring, because they declare that the continent of Antarctica is unrecognizable.
Are you able to see that one point?
People have traveled all over the world, to take geodesic measurements, to prove the size of continents, and the distances between them. And their arc measurements confirm that the Earth is curved.
But there are no flat earthers who have traveled the world, to take geodesic measurements, to try to prove that it is flat, and to create a map.
Flat earthers just look at the horizon, and proclaim that it looks flat, and their scientific research is done. The irony of that is we see a consistent horizon line, which corresponds to our viewer height, because the earth is curved, and the land beyond the horizon is hidden.
If the Earth were flat, we would be able to see much further.
Sorry, there is too much proof on this website that proves that the earth cannot be flat.
I pray that the Spirit shows you the truth.
I’m really sad that you reveal so much truth yet you can’t see that the earth is flat and that you are trying to expose it as a deception. Do you know how many atheists, new agers (including myself), etc. that this Truth is bringing to Christ? This ONE TRUTH exposes the lies of evolution, the big bang, and that the earth is NOT billions of years old. What you are ignoring is that there is an elegant wonder of stars in the firmament and that your Messiah is straight up above it on His Throne.
Well Dana, I’m really sad that you seem to know so much truth, but have fallen for the enemy’s deception of the flat earth; which has been created to cause people to not listen to truthers like yourself.
There are witnesses all around us that there is a Creator, namely the human body, which is the most amazing creation of all. The whole animal kingdom testifies to a grand design and Creator. The Fibonacci Sequence in the designs of nature, testifies to a grand Creator. Our DNA code points to a profoundly intelligent Creator. Atheists and new agers are without excuse, given our scientific knowledge about the complexity of how the body works.
Even if the earth were flat, that does not prove that the Elohim of the Bible is the one true Elohim. People could simply say that an entity built the dome terrarium, and left it for billions of years, for life to evolve.
On the other hand, when you understand the fulfillment of Revelation, you see how most of it has been fulfilled in exacting detail during the last 1,900 years; proving that the Elohim of the Scriptures is the One, True Elohim.
It’s sad that you can’t see the simple proofs that I’ve provided, because you’re biased.
Trust me when I say that I just want the truth, but I can debunk most of the explanations that flat earthers give. Many of them just make me shake my head, because they are so nonsensical.
I pray that you will Search For Truth, Not To Defend A Belief!
David
Why nasa iss and all of them use fish eye lenses in every videos then? Why not a single not cgi photo? Not a 1 real photo of curvature all fish eye lenses. How they build bridves 100 miles long without taking curvature in to consideration?
They use a fish-eye lens to capture more width in the image, it’s a wide-angle lens. The photos they publish are composites, not CGI. That means that they took many images, and used imaging software to remove the clouds, so that you can see all of the geographical areas.
Where is the proof that designers didn’t take curvature into consideration when building long bridges? The Verrazano-Narrows Bridge is less than a mile long, and the main support towers are angled away from each other at the top, to account for the curvature of the Earth.
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You are so indoctrinated by pseudoscience. Paid to lie.
No Jennifer, I post the truth for free! 🙂 As opposed to the leading teachers of the flat earth theory, who are paid to lie.
if anybody really took the time to look into just about everything you where tought in school was lies and BS starting with HIS/tory so with knowing this we should believe that if they lied to us as kids they wound not stop there so everything is suspect lol but on the real we should have are eyes open so we can see we are not spinning and if you fallow nasa the earth in pear shaped lol so how are you going to believe someone who is a part of are defense system we all know about how real false flags are today so with that said if we went to the moon in 1969 at a cost of the tax payer of over 30 billion dollars that NASA now said they have lost the tecnoligy to go this is a red flag the earths NASA also gave us the earth model of all the layers of earth the crust 25miles mantle 1,800miles outer core 1,400miles inner core 800miles but how would they know this when the deepest drill not even reaching 8.4miles this is a big red flag also if Antarctica is a continent that Admiral Byrd had the bigger esploration only to say there was every endless amounts of resources that all are goverments are telling us we are running out of the Antarctic treaty is one of the biggest and longest unbroken one BIG RED FLAG there are countries ever day braking treatys and deals so why has nobody tried to atemp to take over this land if its worth so much and that fact that the USA did not clam this land is strange suposely there are no millitery bases there but if not how would they keep people from braking the treaty? I’m not a expert on any of these things but there is plenty of ?????? that I think all of us should be working together to figure out there is not a place in this world that usa military has put there boots on that we don’t have a millitery base in over a 1000+ and counting the USA has never found somthing and just gave it away the USA takes things we do not give anything away whit out attachments open your eyes nothing coming from the goverments mouth is ever how they sell it that why THEY LIVE WE SLEEP so wake up
If anybody really took the time to read the explanations on this website, they would see that the flat earth theory doesn’t work in real life.