If you’re a flat earther, have you studied the context of the Bible verses which are being cited to proclaim “the Bible says flat earth”?
This book goes through all 240 verses that people like Nathan Roberts cite, to show you the proper context; because if you’re promoting this list, then you’re accountable for the explanations.
It gives a fresh perspective about the ‘firmament‘ of Genesis; the ‘circle‘ of Isaiah 40:22; the clay turned to the ‘seal‘ in Job 38:13-14; the ‘pillars‘ of 1 Samuel 2:8; the sun going forth in his ‘circuit‘ of Psalms 19:6; and much more.
If you know someone who believes that the Scriptures describes a domed, flat earth; it will help you understand their rationale in citing these verses.
If you’re a believer who’s researching the flat earth, this book is critical for you.
If you believe in the heliocentric universe, have you read what Moses, Job, David, and Isaiah; declared about the earth, the sun, and the stars? The Bible describes a sun that moves in a circuit, which has been stopped, and has been moved back. And it describes an earth that is fixed. The Bible is purely geocentric, and there is no Scriptural justification for the heliocentric model.
The Bible also describes the lower circular layers which hold back the fountains of the deep; the spherical layers of atmosphere around the globe earth; the constellations on the ecliptic which encircles the globe earth; and the celestial sphere of stars which surround the globe earth as a tent, as a tabernacle.
The enemy is hiding the geocentric globe earth universe with the false narratives of the heliocentric universe and the flat earth model.
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The stars in the southern hemisphere prove that the earth is a globe.
On the flat earth model, if people in Australia, South Africa and South America, were all facing South, they would be facing opposite directions, so there’s no way that they can all see Sigma Octantis in the Octans constellation, which does not move. Yet people in those three Southern Hemisphere continents can look south and see stars circling around the south celestial pole.
This proves that the north and south celestial pole stars are at the top and bottom of the celestial sphere, and the other stars are circling the globe Earth.
Flat-earthers proclaim that this is possible because when people are looking south, they’re seeing a reflection off of the glass dome of the stars in the northern hemisphere.
But that is a false explanation, as the stars in the northern hemisphere are different than the stars in the southern hemisphere. Here are the constellations in the northern hemisphere.
Here are the constellations in the southern hemisphere.
Question for flat earthers: What is the scientific explanation for how the sun changes its path, to move from the larger circle of the Tropic of Capricorn (32,729 mile circumference) to the much smaller circle of the Tropic of Cancer (18,504 mile circumference)?
And what is the scientific explanation for how the sun changes speed from 1,322 MPH on the larger circle to 771 MPH on the smaller circle, to complete exactly one revolution per day?
Please comment below. Thank you!
Note: the numbers for the tropics are based on the supposed flat earth map, not on the globe. The supposed flat earth map is distorted, as it’s a north-polar azimuthal equidistant projection of the globe earth. So though the Tropics on the globe earth have a circumference of 22,847 miles, on the flat earth map they are distorted. Using the equator as a baseline at 24,901 miles in circumference; the numbers of the Tropic of Cancer (18,504 miles) and the Tropic of Capricorn (32,729 miles) are based on the geometry of the azimuthal projection; not the actual globe.
After a lot of research, I believe that the enemy has created a deception regarding the design of the universe.
The Illuminati card game has a Flat Earth card that says “People laugh, but the flat earthers know something”. What flat earthers know is that the earth isn’t flying through space orbiting the sun. Astronomers and scientists have not proved that the Earth is moving.
And from our Earthly perspective, the planets and stars appear the same regardless of whether it’s the Copernican heliocentric view or the Tychonic geocentric view.
The deception is that the enemy has caused people to promote the heliocentric view based on philosophy, to not involve a Creator in the explanation of the design of the universe. And that led to the big bang theory, the theory of evolution, etc.; all of which steals glory from our Creator, and deceives people.
It wasn’t until scientific probes produced data about the radiation of the expanding universe, and the orientation of the quasars and radio galaxies; that researches were able to see that all of those things were pointing back to Earth as the center of the universe.
These findings were published in a book titled ‘Geocentrism 101 – An Introduction into the Science of Geocentric Cosmology‘ in 2013, and then explained in a movie called The Principle in late 2014.
Then shortly afterward the flat earth theory was aggressively pushed on YouTube and Facebook, to try to cover over the evidence, and to cause people to dismiss anyone who teaches that the Earth is geocentric.
The enemy has created a false dichotomy, so that the debate is between the geocentric flat earth vs. the heliocentric globe earth; so that people don’t consider the third option, that of the geocentric globe earth.
It puts the Earth at the center of the universe, proving a Designer/Creator, and explains why stars perfectly circle the Earth; while maintaining the laws of physics of the globe earth and the surrounding elaborate universe, which is a precision time-piece. Please read the geocentric Earth page, to see the scientific research that proves that we are at the center of the universe.
I’m not declaring that the earth is geocentric, as I can’t prove it scientifically; but when you look at how Bible verses seem to point to a geocentric earth, it’s an option that we need to consider. Read through the website, and you decide.
If you’re a flat-earther, you can decide to click away, thinking that you know the truth; but I would hope that your goal is to find the whole truth, not to defend a position.
People like Nathan Roberts and Rob Skiba point to Bible verses which they proclaim prove that the earth is flat; but the verses are taken out of context, and some of them prove that the earth is a globe.
Please read this Biblical Proofs Of The Geocentric Globe Earth study and decide for yourself.
Why would the enemy create the flat earth deception? Because most flat earthers are sharing truth in other areas, whether it’s about coming out of churchianity, about the Illuminati and their agenda, etc.; so by getting them to believe in the flat earth, they cause family and friends to stop listening to all that they teach.
On this page I will address the major challenges that I’ve found with the flat earth theory, which are explained in more detail on the other pages.
Here’s a video from the Geographic South Pole, looking straight up, which proves that the earth is not flat.
We can see the perfect circle of stars which is only possible on the globe earth, as no point on the supposed ice ring would show the stars circling overhead.
Here’s a video of a 5-day time-lapse from March 8-13, 2017, taken from the Amundsen–Scott South Pole Station, which proves that the earth is not flat.
Airplane Video Proves Sun Is Not 3,000 Miles Above The Flat Earth
This observation is impossible on a Flat Earth with a Sun 3000 Miles above. We can clearly see the Sun on the Horizon from 43,000 ft. The clouds beneath us are illuminated from below but are dark on top.
This geometry is impossible on a Flat Earth. Of course – it works just fine on a Globe.
The Nikon P900 camera debunks the flat earth.
This video shows one ship that is moored near the horizon line, and the distant ship behind it which is well below the horizon; proving the curvature of the earth.
Some flat earthers commented that you should see the distant ship ’tilting’ if the Earth is curved, but the distance equates to only .23 degrees of tilt, which is not perceivable.
Sorry Flat Earthers The Equinox Geometry does NOT work on a Flat Earth.
The Flat Earth fails to explain the real observations we can make on the Equinox twice per year.
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A commercial pilot who is based out of Australia, who makes international flights in the southern hemisphere, shows that flat earthers cannot produce a legitimate pilots flight plan.
The video description says: A message to Flat Earthers. If you can’t show me a map that works and you can’t tell me how to navigate precisely around the real Earth you are wasting your time telling me the Earth is Flat. I can and do navigate precisely around the real Earth and I have been doing this safely for over 30 years using the Globe. Time to start producing real results guys. The same old nonsense arguments won’t cut it here any longer.
Flat earthers misrepresent the size of the sun, to proclaim that it gets smaller as it sets.
Here’s one of Wolfie6020‘s short videos where he used two cameras to record at the same time, one with a solar filter, one without.
This video shows how the size of the sun in the hazy sky changes as the camera automatically adjusts.
Flat earthers tell us to trust our perspective, but when we do that, we see that the sun and moon do not line up with the flat earth theory.
Flat earthers proclaim that the moon is a flat disc, but that simply cannot be true.
This is so easily disproved, that it’s nonsensical for flat earthers to proclaim it.
The shadows on the moon prove that it is being illuminated from an external light source.
Flat earthers cite Genesis 1:16 and say the the world ‘light‘ means that the moon is self-illuminated.
“And God made two great lights; the greater light to rule the day, and the lesser light to rule the night: he made the stars also.”
The Hebrew word for ‘light’ points to a luminous body. It does not say that it provides its own illumination. ma’owr; properly, a luminous body or luminary, i.e. (abstractly) light (as an element): figuratively, brightness, i.e.cheerfulness; specifically, a chandelier:—bright, light.
Of course they have no way to scientifically explain how the moon illuminates itself, like we do for the Sun. And they cannot explain how the moon changes its illumination so that we see crescent moons and half moons.
It’s impossible for people on the flat earth model to see the same side of the moon.
We would see different sides of the moon, on the flat earth model.
The sun and moon do not vanish as a small dot over the horizon; but rather, they rise up from under the horizon and set below the horizon.
On the flat earth, objects that are moving away would simply grow smaller and disappear at the vanishing point, but they would always stay above the horizon. But every day we see the Sun rise up from under the horizon, and set down below the horizon.
It’s impossible for the sun to rise due East and set due West on the Equinox days.
The sun does not rise and set at the proper locations on the flat earth model.
The paths of the 2017 and 2024 solar eclipses across the United States are impossible to explain on the flat earth model.
There is no scientific explanation for the solar eclipse on the flat earth model, and we can clearly see that the path of the eclipse across the United States, cannot match up with the circular path of the flat earth sun.
How do flat earthers scientifically predict upcoming solar and lunar eclipses? They don’t! There is no scientific data which shows what causes the eclipses (many flat earthers say that the moon doesn’t cause the solar eclipse), and when they will happen.
The Spring and Fall Equinox is a great time to prove whether the earth is flat or a globe.
Geodetic surveying shows that angles of the measured triangle exceed 180 degrees, proving that Earth is curved. This is called ‘spherical excess’.
Flat earthers push aside 100’s of years worth of measurements that have been recorded by geodesic surveyors all over the earth.
These surveyors have painstakingly taken measurements from point to point, and using geometry and triangulation, have determined the size of continents, and the shape of the earth. Triangulation on a flat earth would yield 180 degree sums, but surveyors have found that the sums are greater than 180 degrees, which proves the arc of the earth. Read Geodesy Proof Of The Flat Earth Deception.
One of the biggest perspective problems is that flat earthers are applying the 8″ per mile squared earth curvature formula to wrong line.
The 8″ per mile squared calculation does not measure the curvature of the line of sight, your horizon line; it extends far beyond what you can see.
Let’s apply this to a picture to see the difference between the level line and the horizon line.
Here is the Earth’s Curve Horizon, Bulge, Drop, and Hidden Calculator, which people use to try to prove that the earth isn’t curved. This is the default setting of the globe earth with a radius of 3,959 miles, which shows that if your view height is 6 feet, then your horizon line is 3 miles away. And that’s pretty much what we see in real life.
Most photos from flat earthers are taken from an elevated position, which extends the horizon line; so just plug the estimated height of the elevated position into the Metabunk Earth’s Curve Formula, and you will see that the horizon line matches up; proving the curved Earth.
In the below calculation I used the Advanced option to add 7 zeroes after the planet radius, to mimic a planet that is so big that the flat top is bigger than the supposed flat earth. And it shows that if your view height is 6 feet, your horizon line is 9,482 miles away.
Now of course your eyes can’t see that far, but a good telescope would be able to see across the flat plain to be able to see that far. The point is that if the earth really were flat, then you would be able to see much, much further than 3 miles.
Californians should be able to see Hawaii with a telescope, or Mt. McKinley, which is 20,000 feet high. From atop of Pike Peaks, which is 14,000 feet high, I should be able to use a powerful telescope to see all of America.
But the reason that we can only see to the horizon line is because the earth is curved; you are seeing the bulge of the Earth.
Here is a more technical explanation of the Earth curvature formula, to see how it is being misapplied by flat earthers.
There are a lot of explanations on this website which counter the flat earth explanations, but first let’s set the record straight about the map that most flat-earthers are using.
The map that flat-earthers use actually represents the globe earth!
Before computers, mapping out airplane flight routes was a challenge, as they had to use a globe, or images of the northern and southern hemispheres, like these.
To resolve this problem they created the azimuthal equidistant map, which allowed them to see all of the continents on one 2D map.
In order to do this, the bottom half of the globe earth had to be flared out into the outer circles. On the north-polar azimuthal projection map the northern hemisphere is shown in the inner circle, and the southern hemisphere is shown in the flared out circle that surrounds it.
These maps can be centered from anywhere. If you were planning flights from London, you would center it on London. North-polar azimuthal projection maps were used during times of war, and the polar route is the shortest distance between countries.
Rendering a globe earth onto a 2D image always cause some distortion. On the azimuthal projection map, the further away the land mass is from the center point, the greater the distortion. This is why Australia looks so wide, as it’s been stretched.
Since the continent of Antarctica is opposite of the North Pole on the globe earth, the only way to graphically represent it on the north-polar azimuthal projection map is by turning it inside out, and spreading it out as a white ring on the outside edge.
The South Pole is graphically represented by the outside line of the map. You can see that the white ring has several bays that match up to the Ross Sea, which is close to New Zealand; and Weddell Sea, which is close to South America.
Below is a south-polar azimuthal equidistant projection map. You can see that Antarctica and Australia are now normal size, as they are close to the center point; but North America and Euro-Russia are very distorted. And you can see that the outside edge is blue, because opposite of the South Pole is water on the North Pole.
Here is a equidistant projection map that is centered on Santiago, Chile. North and South America are normal size, as is Antarctica, since they are close to the center point; but Euro-Russia is greatly distorted, so much so that it is graphically rendered as a ring around the outside edge (just like the north-polar map).
You can make your own azimuthal equidistant projection maps on this website. You just need to enter the location; such as 90N,0W for the north pole; and 90S, 0W for the south pole.
Here is a Hammond’s north-polar equidistant map for airplane travel, which is the same map that flat earthers use.
It has both sides of the globe represented, which are declaring that it is a projection of the globe earth onto a 2D map. You can clearly see the continent of Antarctica on the bottom of the globes in white.
This close-up shows you that the globe declares the continent of Antarctica and the South Pole; and then again on the projection map. It is declaring that the outside line is the South Pole. It’s clearly telling you that the continent of Antarctica on the globe earth is represented as the white ring on the projection map.
On the bottom left of the map is a guide to the distances between meridian (N-S) lines. The distance increases up to the equator, and then decrease at the same rate to the South Pole. It’s declaring that though on the projection map it appears that the distances are become greater (because the southern hemisphere is flared out so that you can see it on a 2D projection map), that in fact they are getting smaller because the earth is globe-shaped.
This Air Map Of The World from 1945 tells the truth, that the north-polar azimuthal equidistant projection represents a globe.
Notice that it doesn’t have an ice wall! That is because they didn’t include the continent of Antarctica, because it is so greatly distorted.
Here is the call out box on the top right:
It says “Since it is impossible to spread the surface of a globe on a flat surface without distortion, all maps are distorted in some respects. In this map the distortion occurs in the east and west distances. This distortion increases gradually from the North Pole to the Equator, and then quite rapidly to the outer limits. The distortion of the Antarctic areas would be so great that these are not shown.”
So they didn’t even include the supposed ‘ice wall’, because it’s not an ice wall; it’s the continent of Antarctica, which is greatly distorted by the algorithm used to make the projection map. Since Antarctica is opposite of the North Pole on the globe earth, the only way for the program to render it was to stretch it out as a circle. The outer circle is the South Pole. The continent has been inverted.
To prove that the supposed ice wall is really the distorted and inverted continent of Antarctica, here is an image that has the outer white ring and the continent of Antarctica.
The image keeps the land mass around the outside edge, and has the continent of Antarctica in the middle, as that is what is on the bottom of the globe. The land mass is exaggerated, as the outside ring representation is exaggerated. The continent is inverted to match the inverted outer circle, as the equidistant view is from the top down.
Look at the left side of the continent, which is small compared to the right side. That matches the thin land mass of the left, compared to the right. Now look at the peninsula on the left lower side at 240 degrees. It matches the peninsula on Antarctica.
The top of the circle is very thin and has a recess. That matches the curvature of the top of Antarctica.
On the bottom right at 110 degrees, there is a small indentation. That matches the bay on the southeast part of Antarctica.
Let’s take it one step further. The bottom left red line shows that the meridian lines runs from the bay of Antarctica through South America. The bottom left red lines shows that the meridian line runs from the small bay runs through Asia. The top red line shows that the meridian line runs from the other large bay in between North America and Russia.
The azimuthal equidistant map projection is only a tool, to help determine distances and flight maps on a globe earth.
Every time a flat-earther posts an explanation about direct airplane flights that they say is wrong on a globe earth; they are using this equidistant map, which is a globe map. Or worse, they use a Mercator projection map.
Flat earthers take words out of context to say that the Bible declares a flat earth.
They cite the words “pillars of the earth” to proclaim that the flat earth sit on top of pillars.
“He raiseth up the poor out of the dust, and lifteth up the beggar from the dunghill, to set them among princes, and to make them inherit the throne of glory: for the pillars of the earth are the LORD’S, and he hath set the world upon them.” 1 Samuel 2:8
Read 1 Samuel 2:2-7, 9-10; you see that the word ‘pillars’ is referring to leaders of the earth, not physical pillars that support the flat earth.
Just like the saying that someone is a ‘pillar in the community’, it is declaring they are a strong leader. The context is clearly about Elohim raising seemingly lowly people and making them the leaders of the earth. It is not talking about the design of the physical earth!
Flat earthers say that the ‘circle‘ in Isaiah 40:22 is declaring a flat circle earth.
It is he that sitteth upon the circle of the earth, and the inhabitants thereof are as grasshoppers; that stretcheth out the heavens as a curtain, and spreadeth them out as a tent to dwell in:
Let’s back up to get the context of the verse. Elohim is declaring the glory of His creation.
And to whom would you liken Ěl? And what likeness would you compare to Him? The workman moulds a graven image, and the goldsmith overspreads it with gold, and the silversmith casts silver chains. Isaiah 40:18-19
He is declaring that the works of man are nothing as compared to His creativity and power. Then He points out His Mazzoroth, the twelve signs in the heavenly circle, which have proclaimed His plan of redemption from the beginning.
Did you not know? Have you not heard? Has it not been declared to you from the beginning? Have you not understood from the foundations of the earth? Isaiah 40:21
Do you bring out the constellations (Mazzoroth) in its season? Or do you lead the Bear with its sons. Job 38:32
The CIRCLE in Isaiah 40:22 is the Mazzoroth in the sky above, that has 12 constellations in a circle on the ecliptic, which declare the Gospel. It is like a curtain which covers the earth, and in which the stars dwell.
We see that Elohim tells them to look up to the celestial sphere (circle) of the stars of the Mazzoroth.
Lift up your eyes on high and see. Who has created these? He who is bringing out their host by number, He calls them all by name, by the greatness of His might and the strength of His power – not one is missing. Isaiah 40:26
“He appoints the number of the stars, He gives names to all of them.” Psalm 147:4
So one can clearly see that when Elohim referred to the circle of the Earth, He is referring to the circle of the Mazzoroth which acts as a constant witness to those on earth, about His great power, and about His redemption plan.
The same Hebrew word, chuwg, is used in Job 22:14 to describe the circuit of heaven. “Thick clouds are a covering to him, that he seeth not; and he walketh in the circuit (chuwg) of heaven.”
Stop manipulating the Word of Elohim! Read Biblical Proofs Of The Flat Earth Deception.
One of the most misleading things that proponents of the flat earth say is to ‘use your perspective as proof‘.
The challenge is that we are a small human on a large earth, so our perception is distorted.
We can only see so wide and far, so staring at a horizon that is only a few miles wide, we cannot see the curvature.
Flatearthers posts pictures from airplanes which seem to have a straight horizon, but when you put a line across the photo, you can see the curvature. In this image you can see the line is level with the horizon at the airplane pillar, and that there is a gap on the left and right side.
On this picture the red line is level on the left side, but you can clearly see the gap on the right side.
On this picture the red line is even on the sides, and you can see the curve of the earth in the center.
Flatearthers counter by claiming that airplanes have curved glass that distorts the horizon.
Do you really think that airplanes would have glass in the cockpit that distorts the pilots view?
Does the windshield in your car cause the horizon to curve? No!
Flat-earthers push aside the witness and photos of countless astronomers throughout the years and around the world, who have taken pictures of the planets and distant galaxies.
They proclaim that there are no real planets, and that they are just projections or lights. There are astronomy clubs at many schools and astronomy groups in most major cities, who take pictures of the moon, stars, planets and distant galaxies. There is just no way that all of that is a conspiracy to hide the flat earth theory.
You can buy phone apps that show you where to look in the sky for planets, so that you know where to look with your optical telescope.
You can visit astronomy clubs and they will let you look through their optical telescopes, to see the planets and distance galaxies for yourself. There is simply no excuse for this laziness!
Read Astronomy Proves The Flat Earth Deception.
Flat earthers push aside the witness of people who work in companies that use satellites.
They proclaim that there are no satellites, but that everything is done through cables or ground-based antennas.
- Meteorologists around the world use satellites to show storms like hurricanes.
- Hughes Satellite internet service can’t work with cables or land-based antennas, as the locations that receive the signals are too remote.
- Navstar GPS works in remote areas through satellites.
- Look at a house with the Dish Network, Echostar, DirectTV. What direction is the dish pointed to? The sky!!!
- Look at a remote-location TV news crew, where is their dish pointed to? The sky!
- Sirius radio provides signals to you when you are far away from ground based antennas
- Look at remote military units and military facilities to see where their dishes are pointed to. The sky!
To deny satellites is to deny the existence of a space program covering the US, EU, Russia, China, India, Brazil, employing tens of millions of people and spending tens of billions of dollars a year, putting satellites in orbit, sending probes everywhere, creating the GPS system, satellite TV, etc.
It would mean that all of that is faked, on an ongoing basis, and none of these tens of millions of people has ever exposed the lie. Read Satellites Prove The Flat Earth Deception.
They push aside the many people who have been to Antarctica as a researcher or tourist.
Flat earthers proclaim that the ice ring is protected so that nobody can see the end of the flat earth. But that is ludicrous as people visit every year for research and for tourism.
Read Antarctica Proves The Flat Earth Deception
So why is the flat earth a topic these days?
More and more people on Facebook and YouTube are promoting the flat earth theory, with ridiculous explanations that prove nothing. Many of these people expose other conspiracies that have been foisted upon us; and they expose the truth about the Father and Son’s true names, about the Holy Feast Days, corrupt Bibles, etc.
So I believe that the enemy is getting them to believe in the flat-earth theory, so that others will discount all that they are proclaiming. It’s called a PSYOP, a Psychological Operation.
I think that flat-earthers are going to make everyone so tired of hearing about it, that people will not seek any of the truths that they share. Many of them opening condemn everyone who doesn’t believe it, calling them fools and globeheads.
The story that Christians believed in a flat earth until Columbus’ time, and for some time thereafter, began as part of a fictional story that was elevated to historical fact by late 19th-century Darwinists who used it primarily as a means to ridicule Christians. Sadly that appears to be happening again, as truthers who proclaim the flat earth are being ridiculed.
I hope that this page has helped to open your eyes to the truth, that the earth is a globe.
If you have some insight to prove that what I have shown is not correct, please comment below. If you just want to make statements, without any proof; or if you just want to make accusations against me; then your comment may not be added to the discussion.
David
p.s. My explanations are logical, and are based on what we can see. I don’t offer scientific explanations, because that is not my strength. Sadly, I see flat earthers mocking scientific explanations about the globe earth, but giving really unscientific answers.
“This time-lapse of the International Space Station transiting the sun proves that satellites exist.
Flat earthers proclaim that satellites don’t exist, which is absurd, given all of the weather satellite images of hurricanes lately.”
They’re called high altitude weather balloons. And with regards to the ISS transiting the sun, why don’t we see a ton of little specks dispersed throughout there as well which would represent the “thousands” of satellites?
So you believe that all of the weather reporting is done with high-altitude balloons? How would they control the balloons to get them into the right place? How would they keep them in the air for extended periods of time? How would they have enough of them to provide coverage of all of the major cities in the world?
You can observe satellites. Just use APP’s like Skyview Satellite Guide to know when and where to look, to see them track across the sky.
How do you explain services like HughesNet, which provides internet service to remote locations, where there are no towers?
How do you explain satellite dishes pointing up to the sky, and not sideways to a tower?
There are many satellite companies in the world, so that would mean that every employee is in on the supposed deception to hide that the Earth is flat. Seriously?
“super moon will seem 7 percent bigger and 16 percent BRIGHTER to the naked eye”
I thought the moon’s light is just a reflection of the sun’s light? So what’s causing it to be brighter? In fact, how can the moon ever be visible during a lunar eclipse if the sun’s rays are being blocked by the Earth?
Flat earthers say that the moon is not illuminated by the sun, and that it provides its own light; but they can’t explain how it does that. And they can’t explain how it moves close to the Earth, to appear bigger and brighter.
Globe earthers note that it’s bigger and brighter because it’s closer to the Earth in its orbit.
The better question is, how can a lunar eclipse occur on the flat earth? What is in front of it, to hide it?
How were the spacecraft able to successfully land on the moon if there’s no atmosphere on the moon and it rotates 10.3 MPH? That is the explanation we are given ( because the atmosphere is attached to the surface of the Earth ) as to the reason airplanes are able to land on a spinning ball. Here is a video that absolutely debunks the possibility of a spacecraft landing on the moon successfully even one out of 6 times let alone a perfect 6 for 6…..debunk away! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LRvuIp_k_-g
No need for me to debunk the science of the lunar landings, because I believe that they were faked.
Great website!
One minor correction: there is a South Celestial Pole,” but no “South Celestial Pole star” —
yet another difference between Southern Hemisphere stars and Northern Hemisphere stars.
Thank you for sharing your insight! I updated the home page to point to the South Celestial Pole, around which stars are circling; not the South Pole star.
This is so simple. All you need to do to prove the earth is spherical is to find the curve. In fact….there are several organizations who have a large cash reward for someone who proves the globe. Should be simple enough. I’ll be waiting….
Bethany, please reply with the names of the organizations and contact person, as people surely aren’t going to give the proofs to you, so that you can claim the large cash reward.
For hundreds of years, people have taken geodesic measurements of the earth.
These surveyors have painstakingly taken measurements from point to point, and using geometry and triangulation, have determined the size of continents, and the shape of the earth.
Geodetic surveying reveals that the angles of the measured triangle exceed 180 degrees, proving that the Earth is curved. This is called ‘spherical excess’.
If the Earth was flat, the angles would add up to 180 degrees.
I’m sure all of those people would like the large cash reward, as I’m sure that taking all of those measurements was a lot of work. http://flatearthdeception.com/geodesy-proof-of-the-flat-earth-deception/
Meanwhile, I’ll be waiting for pictures of the edge of the dome….
This is for future readers to understand.
The Fallen Angels (Satan) use something called syncretism. They combine truths with severe doses of distorted half-truths and severe doses of outright lies. Because humans are fallen themselves, they are separated from the source of truth, which is God, so they mostly operate out of their own intellect, which makes them very easily programmable. (With various types of information.) Especially information which makes individuals emotionally invested, because it attempts to address a wound they have, but of course, with false knowledge.
The Fallen understand that most humans are not knowledgeable about most subjects. Especially complex subjects. So they have introduced throughout the ages false information into every area of human life that impacts a human being on a fundamental level: spirituality, sexuality and of course the subject of the nature of reality. They know that when they get humans to pursue the answers on the nature of reality, individuals will be forever in the pursuit of those answers – because one cannot find them all within a short life time, within a fallen world, a fallen body/mind and on top of that, even if the Fall did not occur, the Creator never designed this world to be a place where individuals would learn about the totality of existence and everything in the vast universe. Fallen Angel teachings convince individuals that such a thing is actually possible, thus making individuals incredibly prideful (egotistical). And as well all know, pride is invisible to the one suffering from it. Thus individuals may speak about God and all of the concepts that are worth pursuing in life, yet they will be speaking about those things from a mental and prideful perspective, which distorts these sensitive subjects even more and undoes the careful work that Jesus Christ has done. It makes those who have not yet returned to God, absolutely despise Christians, because from their point of view, the followers of Christ are all egotistical manics who know absolutely nothing about life, and who even rejoice in that fact and further are unapologetically rude to all who do not submit to a false hypothesis (Flat Earth).
When individuals become obsessed with understanding what their world and the universe around them is truly life, they become obsessed with the broad subject loosely termed “the nature of reality”, which is a subject that requires many disciplines to be put together. And since God deliberately stayed away from that subject, knowing the confusion it causes to a fallen race of beings, humans always end up searching for knowledge on this subject. And that’s the whole point. That’s precisely what the Fallen Angels need humans to do. This eventually makes individuals seek out secret/hidden knowledge, which of course comes from the Fallen. And by partaking in that knowledge, one immediately separates oneself from the Creator. Especially because Fallen knowledge (from various religions or spiritual and non-spiritual doctrines) tends to make one extremely self-serving and prideful, to the point where they become entirely blind to that very thing.
The other part of this, is to combine a false hypothesis with the truth: the message of Jesus Christ and His salvation work. In order to discredit Jesus in every way possible. When it is uncovered that the Earth is in fact a globe, from an independent source, it will make everyone disbelieve the Bible even more. Because in their minds the Bible will have become associated with the falsity of “Flat Earth”. That’s how people think. Most people do not have the time, the patience, the will, the honesty and sincerity, the innocence or the diligence to go out and prove to themselves something which they have already been made to hate. Thus it is easier to fool people, than to tell them they have been severely fooled. They will continue believing in their lie, believing their particular lie to be the ultimate truth.
That’s the whole point, to make people utterly hate Jesus, God and the Bible. To look down on the those things as primitive and of a bygone age, things that need to be forgotten and consigned to the myth pile.
To make people have ignorant opinions about the teachings of God, so that they carry those false opinions, without knowing the real truth.
For example in the early 2000’s, the Fallen Angels through many human agents, succeeded brilliantly in popularizing the new age movement via the spreading power of the internet. The new age movement, especially its alien aspects are the real driving forces, not Oprah and Eckart Tolle nonsense, that stuff is light fluff, to the real new age movement.
Alongside the incredible rise in interest in all types of Fallen Angel spirituality (mysticism, gnosticism, shamanism, new age, Buddhism, Hinduism, Islam, Illuminism, paganism, Theosophy, Taoism…) were also newly growing truther movements which themselves were used to propagate some of the the most thorough and corruptive lies ever seen by humankind. The Zeitgeist movement is one such example. That particular movement to this day holds many minds sway. Just as the false flat Earth movement will hold many under its grip, even though it will have been long proven a corrupt cosmology.
The Fallen always work by utilizing their superior knowledge of the nature of reality, to spin webs around human subjects.
That is why God stayed away from explaining the universe in detail, because that ultimately does not matter, far superior knowledge of the universe will be given to all souls who make it past Judgement, and have life in the new Earth after this one is completely wiped. To focus on understanding the universe now, (within this fallen Earth and one’s own fallen human template) is to focus on understanding a corrupt version of it, since humans are corrupt, thus they perceive in corrupt ways.
This is why God and why Jesus expressly focused on the spiritual nature of each soul and their sinful body and mind, because those are the fundamental issues in need of being addressed FIRST. One does not run before one can walk. God is teaching His children to walk first, not to run or fly. Only Fallen Angels promise humans that they can mature really quick in order to be able to run and fly (possess vast knowledge and power).
If there is a lesson to pull out of all this, it is to remain supremely humble. Unfortunately the only thing the Flat Earth movement has made people is extremely divided, angry, condemnatory towards one another as if there was no tomorrow, masterfully uncompassionate, rude and disrespectful, deceived, self-righteous and blind to the very things that the FE belief system supposedly teaches one to guard against – these are all typical signs of Fallen Angels being behind all this, because these signs are NO different to what happens when one goes into the vast new age movement and learns about that vast cosmology.
FE movement is yet another in the long line of distractions that claim to bring greater awareness to its adherent, whilst in actually fact, completely tearing out his humanity, in order to replace it with something “better”. The worst part of all this, is that unlike the new age movement, things get really heated when God’s teachings are combined with the falsities of the Fallen. People simply cannot differentiate where the truth ends and the lies begin, and they become extremely defensive. They either have to believe in the whole package deal, or reject the whole thing. This syncretization is what the Fallen are masters of. This has a wider effect of totally discouraging and making people hopeless, both those who went into the movement, and those who are observing things from the outside.
The Fallen understand well that to make humans move ever more towards building a utopian world suited to their ruler-ship, man must be continually broken like a horse. Build up and broken, build up and broken. It’s a molding process, that gradually makes humans a creature far from that which God first made. When you include God’s teachings into all this, then you make those who are distant from God, believe themselves to be those who are closest to God. And that inherently creates enormous conflicts. As long as people are fighting one another, ceaselessly and in their own eyes: justifiably, it does not matter what type of conflict it is, over what false or true ideology or reality the conflict bases itself upon. As long as humans are continually distracted with a trillion and one distractions, both of an intellectual, emotional, physical and energetic nature, this makes them do the least amount of work (in the right way that God taught) on themselves that makes them truly better individuals, let alone a more godly society.
Oh I love this. Thank-you so much Richard. I have a brother who has grabbed the flat earth vs. round earth controversy and ran with it like a marathon. I’ve been trying to explain to him that it doesn’t matter. God is in control and we need to keep our faith strong and stay close to him, study his word, and pray for understanding.
It’s enough for me to know that God is the foundation and the light of the world, and I marvel everyday at his wonderful creation….no matter what the shape.
That is because the sun does not illuminate the Moon the Moon has its own light on power source just like the Bible says God made two lights one greater light for the day and one lesser light for the night
Gabriel, making statements proves nothing, we share require proof.
Please explain how the power source of the moon works, and explain how the moon creates the phases that change from a crescent to a full moon?
Well done. Well done! The four videos are a nice balance of simplicity and personal confirmation. I have had a number of discussions with sincere flat earth friends but my science background kept putting my arguments our of their reach. Along with your wonderful animations, the difficulties are easily grasped. Again, well done.
Recently, I plotted the regions of daylight for Dec. 22 on a flat earth map, like the Gleason map. Have you ever done this? Once you see the pattern you realize that this cannot work. My method was to look up the hours of sunlight on Dec. 22 at about 20 cities spread on different latitudes between the poles. Then I drew the light arcs symmetrically at their respective latitudes. I would love to see an animation of the circling Sun on Dec. 22 above a flat map with this wild “connected crescent” shape of illumination. Would you do that?
Thanks again. Wonderful work.
Thank you for sharing your insight Jim! The videos are from other globe-earthers. The animation sounds like a great idea, but it’s not in my skill-set to make it. Wolfoe6020 on YouTube has some great videos that prove that the earth is curved. https://www.youtube.com/user/Wolfie6020
Hey, been researching flat earth a lot because someone said “Bet you can’t research it and not believe it” So I was like “Challenge accepted”. As far as the sun and moon being in different places, a lot of theories I’ve seen say that there is a dome above us and that theres is a place on the north pole that projects the sun and moon on the globe. what do you think about that? I’m mean besides the fact that it’s crazy, obviously. But if it were possible would that be mathematically possible?
Thank you for your comment Christian! I’ve never seen this explanation, ‘there’s a place on the north pole that projects the sun and moon on the globe.’; nor do I understand the point of it.
We can see the relationship between the sun and moon, that after a new moon, the thin crescent moon appears close to the setting sun. And every day at sunset, the moon is 1/14th further east across the sky, and we can see 1/14th more of the illuminated side of the moon. On the 14th day after the New Moon, we see the full moon rising on the eastern horizon, at sunset. All those things prove that the earth is not flat.
And flat earthers have no explanation for how the moon illuminates itself and creates the phases.
How can you prove the earth is in the middle and the sun is rotating around it?
That’s a great question! Here is a video demonstrates that you cannot determine between heliocentrism and geocentrism by simply observing the planets, the sun moons etc. https://youtu.be/8MiqVtqFcgc
Here is a summary from the book called Geocentrism 101: An Introduction to the Science of Geocentrism, by Robert A. Sungenis:
The newest cosmological evidence puts Earth at the center of the universe, and this is admitted by man popular scientists.
Experiential evidence from over one hundred years ago to the present day shows the Earth is motionless is space.
Einstein’s Special Theory of Relativity was invented precisely to counter the many experiments in the late 1800s that showed the Earth was standing still in space.
Einstein’s General Theory of Relativity was invented to cover the weaknesses of the Special Theory, but in doing so the General Theory allowed the Earth to be motionless in the center of the universe.
In addition to Einstein’s General Theory of Relativity, other theories of physics, such as Newton’s law of motion and Mach’s Principle, say that a universe rotating around a fixed Earth is as scientifically valid as a rotating Earth in a fixed universe.
Every scientific proof for an Earth revolving around the sun and rotating on an axis has been discredited, and there has never been an experiment that has provided proof that the Earth is moving.
Recent data from satellite probes sent up in the 1900s and 2000s show that the whole universe is aligned with both the Earth-sun ecliptic and the Earth’s equator, showing that our universe is geocentrically oriented with Earth at the center.
Recent data from telescopes show that galaxies and many other celestial objects such as quasars and gamma ray bursts, are oriented around the Earth in concentric spheres.