If you’re a flat earther, have you studied the context of the Bible verses which are being cited to proclaim “the Bible says flat earth”?
This book goes through all 240 verses that people like Nathan Roberts cite, to show you the proper context; because if you’re promoting this list, then you’re accountable for the explanations.
It gives a fresh perspective about the ‘firmament‘ of Genesis; the ‘circle‘ of Isaiah 40:22; the clay turned to the ‘seal‘ in Job 38:13-14; the ‘pillars‘ of 1 Samuel 2:8; the sun going forth in his ‘circuit‘ of Psalms 19:6; and much more.
If you know someone who believes that the Scriptures describes a domed, flat earth; it will help you understand their rationale in citing these verses.
If you’re a believer who’s researching the flat earth, this book is critical for you.
If you believe in the heliocentric universe, have you read what Moses, Job, David, and Isaiah; declared about the earth, the sun, and the stars? The Bible describes a sun that moves in a circuit, which has been stopped, and has been moved back. And it describes an earth that is fixed. The Bible is purely geocentric, and there is no Scriptural justification for the heliocentric model.
The Bible also describes the lower circular layers which hold back the fountains of the deep; the spherical layers of atmosphere around the globe earth; the constellations on the ecliptic which encircles the globe earth; and the celestial sphere of stars which surround the globe earth as a tent, as a tabernacle.
The enemy is hiding the geocentric globe earth universe with the false narratives of the heliocentric universe and the flat earth model.
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The stars in the southern hemisphere prove that the earth is a globe.
On the flat earth model, if people in Australia, South Africa and South America, were all facing South, they would be facing opposite directions, so there’s no way that they can all see Sigma Octantis in the Octans constellation, which does not move. Yet people in those three Southern Hemisphere continents can look south and see stars circling around the south celestial pole.
This proves that the north and south celestial pole stars are at the top and bottom of the celestial sphere, and the other stars are circling the globe Earth.
Flat-earthers proclaim that this is possible because when people are looking south, they’re seeing a reflection off of the glass dome of the stars in the northern hemisphere.
But that is a false explanation, as the stars in the northern hemisphere are different than the stars in the southern hemisphere. Here are the constellations in the northern hemisphere.
Here are the constellations in the southern hemisphere.
Question for flat earthers: What is the scientific explanation for how the sun changes its path, to move from the larger circle of the Tropic of Capricorn (32,729 mile circumference) to the much smaller circle of the Tropic of Cancer (18,504 mile circumference)?
And what is the scientific explanation for how the sun changes speed from 1,322 MPH on the larger circle to 771 MPH on the smaller circle, to complete exactly one revolution per day?
Please comment below. Thank you!
Note: the numbers for the tropics are based on the supposed flat earth map, not on the globe. The supposed flat earth map is distorted, as it’s a north-polar azimuthal equidistant projection of the globe earth. So though the Tropics on the globe earth have a circumference of 22,847 miles, on the flat earth map they are distorted. Using the equator as a baseline at 24,901 miles in circumference; the numbers of the Tropic of Cancer (18,504 miles) and the Tropic of Capricorn (32,729 miles) are based on the geometry of the azimuthal projection; not the actual globe.
After a lot of research, I believe that the enemy has created a deception regarding the design of the universe.
The Illuminati card game has a Flat Earth card that says “People laugh, but the flat earthers know something”. What flat earthers know is that the earth isn’t flying through space orbiting the sun. Astronomers and scientists have not proved that the Earth is moving.
And from our Earthly perspective, the planets and stars appear the same regardless of whether it’s the Copernican heliocentric view or the Tychonic geocentric view.
The deception is that the enemy has caused people to promote the heliocentric view based on philosophy, to not involve a Creator in the explanation of the design of the universe. And that led to the big bang theory, the theory of evolution, etc.; all of which steals glory from our Creator, and deceives people.
It wasn’t until scientific probes produced data about the radiation of the expanding universe, and the orientation of the quasars and radio galaxies; that researches were able to see that all of those things were pointing back to Earth as the center of the universe.
These findings were published in a book titled ‘Geocentrism 101 – An Introduction into the Science of Geocentric Cosmology‘ in 2013, and then explained in a movie called The Principle in late 2014.
Then shortly afterward the flat earth theory was aggressively pushed on YouTube and Facebook, to try to cover over the evidence, and to cause people to dismiss anyone who teaches that the Earth is geocentric.
The enemy has created a false dichotomy, so that the debate is between the geocentric flat earth vs. the heliocentric globe earth; so that people don’t consider the third option, that of the geocentric globe earth.
It puts the Earth at the center of the universe, proving a Designer/Creator, and explains why stars perfectly circle the Earth; while maintaining the laws of physics of the globe earth and the surrounding elaborate universe, which is a precision time-piece. Please read the geocentric Earth page, to see the scientific research that proves that we are at the center of the universe.
I’m not declaring that the earth is geocentric, as I can’t prove it scientifically; but when you look at how Bible verses seem to point to a geocentric earth, it’s an option that we need to consider. Read through the website, and you decide.
If you’re a flat-earther, you can decide to click away, thinking that you know the truth; but I would hope that your goal is to find the whole truth, not to defend a position.
People like Nathan Roberts and Rob Skiba point to Bible verses which they proclaim prove that the earth is flat; but the verses are taken out of context, and some of them prove that the earth is a globe.
Please read this Biblical Proofs Of The Geocentric Globe Earth study and decide for yourself.
Why would the enemy create the flat earth deception? Because most flat earthers are sharing truth in other areas, whether it’s about coming out of churchianity, about the Illuminati and their agenda, etc.; so by getting them to believe in the flat earth, they cause family and friends to stop listening to all that they teach.
On this page I will address the major challenges that I’ve found with the flat earth theory, which are explained in more detail on the other pages.
Here’s a video from the Geographic South Pole, looking straight up, which proves that the earth is not flat.
We can see the perfect circle of stars which is only possible on the globe earth, as no point on the supposed ice ring would show the stars circling overhead.
Here’s a video of a 5-day time-lapse from March 8-13, 2017, taken from the Amundsen–Scott South Pole Station, which proves that the earth is not flat.
Airplane Video Proves Sun Is Not 3,000 Miles Above The Flat Earth
This observation is impossible on a Flat Earth with a Sun 3000 Miles above. We can clearly see the Sun on the Horizon from 43,000 ft. The clouds beneath us are illuminated from below but are dark on top.
This geometry is impossible on a Flat Earth. Of course – it works just fine on a Globe.
The Nikon P900 camera debunks the flat earth.
This video shows one ship that is moored near the horizon line, and the distant ship behind it which is well below the horizon; proving the curvature of the earth.
Some flat earthers commented that you should see the distant ship ’tilting’ if the Earth is curved, but the distance equates to only .23 degrees of tilt, which is not perceivable.
Sorry Flat Earthers The Equinox Geometry does NOT work on a Flat Earth.
The Flat Earth fails to explain the real observations we can make on the Equinox twice per year.
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A commercial pilot who is based out of Australia, who makes international flights in the southern hemisphere, shows that flat earthers cannot produce a legitimate pilots flight plan.
The video description says: A message to Flat Earthers. If you can’t show me a map that works and you can’t tell me how to navigate precisely around the real Earth you are wasting your time telling me the Earth is Flat. I can and do navigate precisely around the real Earth and I have been doing this safely for over 30 years using the Globe. Time to start producing real results guys. The same old nonsense arguments won’t cut it here any longer.
Flat earthers misrepresent the size of the sun, to proclaim that it gets smaller as it sets.
Here’s one of Wolfie6020‘s short videos where he used two cameras to record at the same time, one with a solar filter, one without.
This video shows how the size of the sun in the hazy sky changes as the camera automatically adjusts.
Flat earthers tell us to trust our perspective, but when we do that, we see that the sun and moon do not line up with the flat earth theory.
Flat earthers proclaim that the moon is a flat disc, but that simply cannot be true.
This is so easily disproved, that it’s nonsensical for flat earthers to proclaim it.
The shadows on the moon prove that it is being illuminated from an external light source.
Flat earthers cite Genesis 1:16 and say the the world ‘light‘ means that the moon is self-illuminated.
“And God made two great lights; the greater light to rule the day, and the lesser light to rule the night: he made the stars also.”
The Hebrew word for ‘light’ points to a luminous body. It does not say that it provides its own illumination. ma’owr; properly, a luminous body or luminary, i.e. (abstractly) light (as an element): figuratively, brightness, i.e.cheerfulness; specifically, a chandelier:—bright, light.
Of course they have no way to scientifically explain how the moon illuminates itself, like we do for the Sun. And they cannot explain how the moon changes its illumination so that we see crescent moons and half moons.
It’s impossible for people on the flat earth model to see the same side of the moon.
We would see different sides of the moon, on the flat earth model.
The sun and moon do not vanish as a small dot over the horizon; but rather, they rise up from under the horizon and set below the horizon.
On the flat earth, objects that are moving away would simply grow smaller and disappear at the vanishing point, but they would always stay above the horizon. But every day we see the Sun rise up from under the horizon, and set down below the horizon.
It’s impossible for the sun to rise due East and set due West on the Equinox days.
The sun does not rise and set at the proper locations on the flat earth model.
The paths of the 2017 and 2024 solar eclipses across the United States are impossible to explain on the flat earth model.
There is no scientific explanation for the solar eclipse on the flat earth model, and we can clearly see that the path of the eclipse across the United States, cannot match up with the circular path of the flat earth sun.
How do flat earthers scientifically predict upcoming solar and lunar eclipses? They don’t! There is no scientific data which shows what causes the eclipses (many flat earthers say that the moon doesn’t cause the solar eclipse), and when they will happen.
The Spring and Fall Equinox is a great time to prove whether the earth is flat or a globe.
Geodetic surveying shows that angles of the measured triangle exceed 180 degrees, proving that Earth is curved. This is called ‘spherical excess’.
Flat earthers push aside 100’s of years worth of measurements that have been recorded by geodesic surveyors all over the earth.
These surveyors have painstakingly taken measurements from point to point, and using geometry and triangulation, have determined the size of continents, and the shape of the earth. Triangulation on a flat earth would yield 180 degree sums, but surveyors have found that the sums are greater than 180 degrees, which proves the arc of the earth. Read Geodesy Proof Of The Flat Earth Deception.
One of the biggest perspective problems is that flat earthers are applying the 8″ per mile squared earth curvature formula to wrong line.
The 8″ per mile squared calculation does not measure the curvature of the line of sight, your horizon line; it extends far beyond what you can see.
Let’s apply this to a picture to see the difference between the level line and the horizon line.
Here is the Earth’s Curve Horizon, Bulge, Drop, and Hidden Calculator, which people use to try to prove that the earth isn’t curved. This is the default setting of the globe earth with a radius of 3,959 miles, which shows that if your view height is 6 feet, then your horizon line is 3 miles away. And that’s pretty much what we see in real life.
Most photos from flat earthers are taken from an elevated position, which extends the horizon line; so just plug the estimated height of the elevated position into the Metabunk Earth’s Curve Formula, and you will see that the horizon line matches up; proving the curved Earth.
In the below calculation I used the Advanced option to add 7 zeroes after the planet radius, to mimic a planet that is so big that the flat top is bigger than the supposed flat earth. And it shows that if your view height is 6 feet, your horizon line is 9,482 miles away.
Now of course your eyes can’t see that far, but a good telescope would be able to see across the flat plain to be able to see that far. The point is that if the earth really were flat, then you would be able to see much, much further than 3 miles.
Californians should be able to see Hawaii with a telescope, or Mt. McKinley, which is 20,000 feet high. From atop of Pike Peaks, which is 14,000 feet high, I should be able to use a powerful telescope to see all of America.
But the reason that we can only see to the horizon line is because the earth is curved; you are seeing the bulge of the Earth.
Here is a more technical explanation of the Earth curvature formula, to see how it is being misapplied by flat earthers.
There are a lot of explanations on this website which counter the flat earth explanations, but first let’s set the record straight about the map that most flat-earthers are using.
The map that flat-earthers use actually represents the globe earth!
Before computers, mapping out airplane flight routes was a challenge, as they had to use a globe, or images of the northern and southern hemispheres, like these.
To resolve this problem they created the azimuthal equidistant map, which allowed them to see all of the continents on one 2D map.
In order to do this, the bottom half of the globe earth had to be flared out into the outer circles. On the north-polar azimuthal projection map the northern hemisphere is shown in the inner circle, and the southern hemisphere is shown in the flared out circle that surrounds it.
These maps can be centered from anywhere. If you were planning flights from London, you would center it on London. North-polar azimuthal projection maps were used during times of war, and the polar route is the shortest distance between countries.
Rendering a globe earth onto a 2D image always cause some distortion. On the azimuthal projection map, the further away the land mass is from the center point, the greater the distortion. This is why Australia looks so wide, as it’s been stretched.
Since the continent of Antarctica is opposite of the North Pole on the globe earth, the only way to graphically represent it on the north-polar azimuthal projection map is by turning it inside out, and spreading it out as a white ring on the outside edge.
The South Pole is graphically represented by the outside line of the map. You can see that the white ring has several bays that match up to the Ross Sea, which is close to New Zealand; and Weddell Sea, which is close to South America.
Below is a south-polar azimuthal equidistant projection map. You can see that Antarctica and Australia are now normal size, as they are close to the center point; but North America and Euro-Russia are very distorted. And you can see that the outside edge is blue, because opposite of the South Pole is water on the North Pole.
Here is a equidistant projection map that is centered on Santiago, Chile. North and South America are normal size, as is Antarctica, since they are close to the center point; but Euro-Russia is greatly distorted, so much so that it is graphically rendered as a ring around the outside edge (just like the north-polar map).
You can make your own azimuthal equidistant projection maps on this website. You just need to enter the location; such as 90N,0W for the north pole; and 90S, 0W for the south pole.
Here is a Hammond’s north-polar equidistant map for airplane travel, which is the same map that flat earthers use.
It has both sides of the globe represented, which are declaring that it is a projection of the globe earth onto a 2D map. You can clearly see the continent of Antarctica on the bottom of the globes in white.
This close-up shows you that the globe declares the continent of Antarctica and the South Pole; and then again on the projection map. It is declaring that the outside line is the South Pole. It’s clearly telling you that the continent of Antarctica on the globe earth is represented as the white ring on the projection map.
On the bottom left of the map is a guide to the distances between meridian (N-S) lines. The distance increases up to the equator, and then decrease at the same rate to the South Pole. It’s declaring that though on the projection map it appears that the distances are become greater (because the southern hemisphere is flared out so that you can see it on a 2D projection map), that in fact they are getting smaller because the earth is globe-shaped.
This Air Map Of The World from 1945 tells the truth, that the north-polar azimuthal equidistant projection represents a globe.
Notice that it doesn’t have an ice wall! That is because they didn’t include the continent of Antarctica, because it is so greatly distorted.
Here is the call out box on the top right:
It says “Since it is impossible to spread the surface of a globe on a flat surface without distortion, all maps are distorted in some respects. In this map the distortion occurs in the east and west distances. This distortion increases gradually from the North Pole to the Equator, and then quite rapidly to the outer limits. The distortion of the Antarctic areas would be so great that these are not shown.”
So they didn’t even include the supposed ‘ice wall’, because it’s not an ice wall; it’s the continent of Antarctica, which is greatly distorted by the algorithm used to make the projection map. Since Antarctica is opposite of the North Pole on the globe earth, the only way for the program to render it was to stretch it out as a circle. The outer circle is the South Pole. The continent has been inverted.
To prove that the supposed ice wall is really the distorted and inverted continent of Antarctica, here is an image that has the outer white ring and the continent of Antarctica.
The image keeps the land mass around the outside edge, and has the continent of Antarctica in the middle, as that is what is on the bottom of the globe. The land mass is exaggerated, as the outside ring representation is exaggerated. The continent is inverted to match the inverted outer circle, as the equidistant view is from the top down.
Look at the left side of the continent, which is small compared to the right side. That matches the thin land mass of the left, compared to the right. Now look at the peninsula on the left lower side at 240 degrees. It matches the peninsula on Antarctica.
The top of the circle is very thin and has a recess. That matches the curvature of the top of Antarctica.
On the bottom right at 110 degrees, there is a small indentation. That matches the bay on the southeast part of Antarctica.
Let’s take it one step further. The bottom left red line shows that the meridian lines runs from the bay of Antarctica through South America. The bottom left red lines shows that the meridian line runs from the small bay runs through Asia. The top red line shows that the meridian line runs from the other large bay in between North America and Russia.
The azimuthal equidistant map projection is only a tool, to help determine distances and flight maps on a globe earth.
Every time a flat-earther posts an explanation about direct airplane flights that they say is wrong on a globe earth; they are using this equidistant map, which is a globe map. Or worse, they use a Mercator projection map.
Flat earthers take words out of context to say that the Bible declares a flat earth.
They cite the words “pillars of the earth” to proclaim that the flat earth sit on top of pillars.
“He raiseth up the poor out of the dust, and lifteth up the beggar from the dunghill, to set them among princes, and to make them inherit the throne of glory: for the pillars of the earth are the LORD’S, and he hath set the world upon them.” 1 Samuel 2:8
Read 1 Samuel 2:2-7, 9-10; you see that the word ‘pillars’ is referring to leaders of the earth, not physical pillars that support the flat earth.
Just like the saying that someone is a ‘pillar in the community’, it is declaring they are a strong leader. The context is clearly about Elohim raising seemingly lowly people and making them the leaders of the earth. It is not talking about the design of the physical earth!
Flat earthers say that the ‘circle‘ in Isaiah 40:22 is declaring a flat circle earth.
It is he that sitteth upon the circle of the earth, and the inhabitants thereof are as grasshoppers; that stretcheth out the heavens as a curtain, and spreadeth them out as a tent to dwell in:
Let’s back up to get the context of the verse. Elohim is declaring the glory of His creation.
And to whom would you liken Ěl? And what likeness would you compare to Him? The workman moulds a graven image, and the goldsmith overspreads it with gold, and the silversmith casts silver chains. Isaiah 40:18-19
He is declaring that the works of man are nothing as compared to His creativity and power. Then He points out His Mazzoroth, the twelve signs in the heavenly circle, which have proclaimed His plan of redemption from the beginning.
Did you not know? Have you not heard? Has it not been declared to you from the beginning? Have you not understood from the foundations of the earth? Isaiah 40:21
Do you bring out the constellations (Mazzoroth) in its season? Or do you lead the Bear with its sons. Job 38:32
The CIRCLE in Isaiah 40:22 is the Mazzoroth in the sky above, that has 12 constellations in a circle on the ecliptic, which declare the Gospel. It is like a curtain which covers the earth, and in which the stars dwell.
We see that Elohim tells them to look up to the celestial sphere (circle) of the stars of the Mazzoroth.
Lift up your eyes on high and see. Who has created these? He who is bringing out their host by number, He calls them all by name, by the greatness of His might and the strength of His power – not one is missing. Isaiah 40:26
“He appoints the number of the stars, He gives names to all of them.” Psalm 147:4
So one can clearly see that when Elohim referred to the circle of the Earth, He is referring to the circle of the Mazzoroth which acts as a constant witness to those on earth, about His great power, and about His redemption plan.
The same Hebrew word, chuwg, is used in Job 22:14 to describe the circuit of heaven. “Thick clouds are a covering to him, that he seeth not; and he walketh in the circuit (chuwg) of heaven.”
Stop manipulating the Word of Elohim! Read Biblical Proofs Of The Flat Earth Deception.
One of the most misleading things that proponents of the flat earth say is to ‘use your perspective as proof‘.
The challenge is that we are a small human on a large earth, so our perception is distorted.
We can only see so wide and far, so staring at a horizon that is only a few miles wide, we cannot see the curvature.
Flatearthers posts pictures from airplanes which seem to have a straight horizon, but when you put a line across the photo, you can see the curvature. In this image you can see the line is level with the horizon at the airplane pillar, and that there is a gap on the left and right side.
On this picture the red line is level on the left side, but you can clearly see the gap on the right side.
On this picture the red line is even on the sides, and you can see the curve of the earth in the center.
Flatearthers counter by claiming that airplanes have curved glass that distorts the horizon.
Do you really think that airplanes would have glass in the cockpit that distorts the pilots view?
Does the windshield in your car cause the horizon to curve? No!
Flat-earthers push aside the witness and photos of countless astronomers throughout the years and around the world, who have taken pictures of the planets and distant galaxies.
They proclaim that there are no real planets, and that they are just projections or lights. There are astronomy clubs at many schools and astronomy groups in most major cities, who take pictures of the moon, stars, planets and distant galaxies. There is just no way that all of that is a conspiracy to hide the flat earth theory.
You can buy phone apps that show you where to look in the sky for planets, so that you know where to look with your optical telescope.
You can visit astronomy clubs and they will let you look through their optical telescopes, to see the planets and distance galaxies for yourself. There is simply no excuse for this laziness!
Read Astronomy Proves The Flat Earth Deception.
Flat earthers push aside the witness of people who work in companies that use satellites.
They proclaim that there are no satellites, but that everything is done through cables or ground-based antennas.
- Meteorologists around the world use satellites to show storms like hurricanes.
- Hughes Satellite internet service can’t work with cables or land-based antennas, as the locations that receive the signals are too remote.
- Navstar GPS works in remote areas through satellites.
- Look at a house with the Dish Network, Echostar, DirectTV. What direction is the dish pointed to? The sky!!!
- Look at a remote-location TV news crew, where is their dish pointed to? The sky!
- Sirius radio provides signals to you when you are far away from ground based antennas
- Look at remote military units and military facilities to see where their dishes are pointed to. The sky!
To deny satellites is to deny the existence of a space program covering the US, EU, Russia, China, India, Brazil, employing tens of millions of people and spending tens of billions of dollars a year, putting satellites in orbit, sending probes everywhere, creating the GPS system, satellite TV, etc.
It would mean that all of that is faked, on an ongoing basis, and none of these tens of millions of people has ever exposed the lie. Read Satellites Prove The Flat Earth Deception.
They push aside the many people who have been to Antarctica as a researcher or tourist.
Flat earthers proclaim that the ice ring is protected so that nobody can see the end of the flat earth. But that is ludicrous as people visit every year for research and for tourism.
Read Antarctica Proves The Flat Earth Deception
So why is the flat earth a topic these days?
More and more people on Facebook and YouTube are promoting the flat earth theory, with ridiculous explanations that prove nothing. Many of these people expose other conspiracies that have been foisted upon us; and they expose the truth about the Father and Son’s true names, about the Holy Feast Days, corrupt Bibles, etc.
So I believe that the enemy is getting them to believe in the flat-earth theory, so that others will discount all that they are proclaiming. It’s called a PSYOP, a Psychological Operation.
I think that flat-earthers are going to make everyone so tired of hearing about it, that people will not seek any of the truths that they share. Many of them opening condemn everyone who doesn’t believe it, calling them fools and globeheads.
The story that Christians believed in a flat earth until Columbus’ time, and for some time thereafter, began as part of a fictional story that was elevated to historical fact by late 19th-century Darwinists who used it primarily as a means to ridicule Christians. Sadly that appears to be happening again, as truthers who proclaim the flat earth are being ridiculed.
I hope that this page has helped to open your eyes to the truth, that the earth is a globe.
If you have some insight to prove that what I have shown is not correct, please comment below. If you just want to make statements, without any proof; or if you just want to make accusations against me; then your comment may not be added to the discussion.
David
p.s. My explanations are logical, and are based on what we can see. I don’t offer scientific explanations, because that is not my strength. Sadly, I see flat earthers mocking scientific explanations about the globe earth, but giving really unscientific answers.
Hello,
My first way into realization that we live on a flat, motionless earth with a firmament above us began with reading books about who was behind this, and I found it’s Masonic origin and pushed by the Catholic Church as a response on losing their grip on the Bible.
“but it could still be true” – and that’s possible, but I need real hard evidence and everything I have found has lead me to the opposite.
I don’t think this question is of that much important if you already saved, but Geocentrism and Evolution is the greatest lie by the enemy to make people never even consider the idea of God existence.
Here’s a 25 minutes documentary that is very well worth the time to watch, about who’s behind, and why.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=olbyJDou4qQ
God Bless!
Hello Jonna, how does Geocentrism “make people never even consider the idea of God existence?” It features the earth at the center of the universe, showing that it’s not random by by design. Heliocentrism is the lie that was created by the evil ones in Rome, which promotes the evolution lie.
Hello again David and thanks for the reply.
I think your answered the question quite good yourselves but this to seems to lead people into atheism or even worse the false light and New Age deception. I used and only talk with my closest friends about this until i noticed the damage and probably why the lie is so important and lead down this path for so many. There is even a firmament above us, about 40 km up in my own estimation. The “aliens” they are in contact with a deceitful spirits, same as Alice Bailey and David Icke and so on. They present themselves as aliens today.
Or now I understood how you meant! And I said Geocentrism and not Heliocentrism which I meant, my apologies! and what the Catholic Church response when they lost the grip of the Bible and it began to spread via the Jesuit Order inside the Church.
The Documentary explains it very well.
I live another link today, it’s a little bit and Biblical Cosmology in Full. AETHEREAL – The Battle for Heaven & Earth https://youtu.be/ax6ytIWlIY4 via @YouTube
God Bless
Jonna, the video twists quotes from Martin Luther and John Calvin, making it seem like they were pointing to a flat earth model, but they were defending the geocentric universe model.
Copernicus delayed publishing his heliocentric work until he was close to death, as he knew that the astronomers of his day would mock him as they believed in the geocentric universe with a globe earth at the center.
Catholic Kepler took out Tyche Brahe to eliminate his proof that the universe is geocentric, with the sun revolving around the globe earth, and the planets revolving around the sun.
The video notes that the Roman astronomers have their own observatories. If the earth is flat with a dome over it, what are they observing?
Some of the video shows how the antichrist beast Popes and Roman Catholic Church tortured and killed the saints and burned the Scriptures, but that doesn’t prove that the earth is flat. The Popes did this to eliminate the two witnesses against them, the Scriptures and the saints, and it had nothing do with the shape of the earth or design of the universe.
Some of the video gives information that exposes the heliocentric/evolution lies and how the Jesuits are behind those deceptions, but that doesn’t prove that the earth is flat.
The deceptions from the Jesuits of Rome are the heliocentric and flat earth models, which serve to hide the geocentric model that proves the design of a Creator, and disproves the big-bang theory and evolution.
Many of the Bible verses that flat earthers cite are taken out of context. I suggest that you read The False Doctrine of the Flat Earth book, which you can request on the home page. https://flatearthdeception.com God bless!
Hello again 🙂 I’m very glad you took the time and watch the video. Geocentric means, quote: “In astronomy, the geocentric model (also known as geocentrism) is a superseded description of the Universe with Earth at the center. Under the geocentric model, the Sun, Moon, stars, and planets all orbit Earth.” (Source Wikipedia)
Yes, you’re right and it’s correct we are in the center of Gods creation and the Moon and Sun goes like a clock above the Earth. It’s doesn’t specify the shape which I believe to en a round disc-shape and I think that’s logical assumption, while then spinning ball become logical in Heliocentric model.
Copernicus had a trait I can relate to, I didn’t like being mocked either so I was silent until I realize the damage from this deception. However: They didn’t allow him to pass away before publication.
I don’t care if people mock me any more so much, when you see through this deception is it all so cheap.
Yes, they have a Telescope that’s named Lucifer (that church is so creepy!) and it helps them “see through the darkness” and I’m not sure what exactly they are looking for, the spiritual realm is probably not anything we can see in that way.
I mean the heavenly realms that spoken about in Ephesians 6:12
Cracks in the firmament? Astrology? I’m not sure what it could be.
The persecution of saints by the Roman Catholic Church is not evidence for the shape of the Earth – I agree 100% of this but I’m still glad Mig Mag made this reminder, I needed it, I read about it before but focus on them individually and their Masonic connections, I almost purposefully looked away for what the Catholic Church done in the past, after I went to one of their churches a few years in my childhood, earliest teen (which is luckily very unusual in Sweden) years before I left. It was a creepy church and they never liked me.
No, it’s true, but isn’t that the logical conclusion?
I’m not an expert on this question as many are, mainly boys probably. And in all respectfulness, why is the shape so important? I always (it’s my first memory) found it out of God’s character to shape it like ball but in different words, we are not just small children when the indoctrination begins, in that age when you trust adults.
If it was shaped like this, wouldn’t we fall off?
Gravity is not proven but only assumed, or made up to make that model believable. Wouldn’t it be possible to notice the curvature? Why are they pretending to float around in the ISS? I live in Northern Sweden, we have long winters and it’s dark and for a while no sun at all but it returns in the summer. The other side was almost impossible to reach, and it’s a barrier of ice when you gone far enough. Boats has sailed without finding a way in. They entered successfully in the 1930s and flow and airplane as long as they could from the ice barrier. https://youtu.be/7yyEe004m78 (from min 8:10)
Our pool here is free for anyone but not the other, they are allegedly doing science but of what? Ice? In all secrecy? It’s not a proof but suspicious.
About the https://flatearthdeception.com I had visit that site and several things I know about but I don’t think you (I think it’s your sites) deliberately lies, I read the other and you seem sincere and honest Christian.
I don’t really grasp why it’s you consider it as an important deception and especially not if it’s just the shape, not any of the other?
The Priest in this video are also very upset about it, and I wouldn’t talk about this topic with a man in his age, i don’t like or want for be disrespectful but I don’t understand his frustration either. https://youtu.be/hWH7tEkg7xc
Far from all “flat earthers” are Christian. They realize it’s an Creator but rarely, from the example I have seen and it’s not so many, leads to our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ.
I’m babbling now and I’m sorry if this reply was to long wall of text. God Bless you!
Hello Jonna, the Wikipedia description of geocentrism is a deception, as they say that the planets orbit earth. But Tyche Brahe showed that the sun orbits the earth and the planets orbit the sun.
This page shows that from an earthly perspective, the heavenly bodies on the Tychonic model and heliocentric model appear in the same places, so we can’t tell the difference.
https://flatearthdeception.com/the-hidden-option-of-the-geocentric-globe-earth/
You bring up many points to defend the flat earth theory, which people from both sides give explanation, and nobody changes their mind, which is why I don’t focus on those things.
There’s no reason for me to lie about the shape of the earth. My only agenda is to seek truth and share it with others. I’m proclaiming that the universe is geocentric, which is contrary to what the world and most Christians believe.
It’s an important deception because heliocentrism denies a creator and it promotes the wicked evolution theory.
The geocentric model proves the Creator and leads to people believing in Scripture and Messiah.
God bless you!
I never accused you, or meant to accuse you of lying. This is important and I wanted to had it said.
God bless you too
Hi David. I really appreciate your work. On the matter of flat/globe earth, however, I’m not so sure the basis of your case would be admissible as evidence. Many of the photos and maps come from unreliable sources (i.e. “official” sources or questionable sources, like the footage of stars from Antarctica). My experience w discovering anomalies w the given cosmology came from independent (and rather accidental) investigation prior to the explosion of popular flat-earth controversy. I could see White Face mountain from my parent’s house, clear as day, in its near entirety. I went to the NASA website (which I had not yet come to question at that time), inserted the distance between me and the mountain and it gave me a read back of how far below the horizon it should be, which exceded the height of the mountain by thousands of meters, which meant the mountain should be un-seeable from my position. I can honestly say that I do not for certain know the shape of the earth. But I do know that I’ve never seen curvature, the earth is not spinning nor hurtling thru space…I don’t even think there is so-called “space” in the way we’ve been taught. I think it’s quite possible that the firmament is not very far away–i’ve looked into HAARP tech, which seems to involve bouncing rays off a domed ceiling. I’ve seen the wrong side of the moon illuminated in relation to the sun’s position (if we’re to believe that the sun lights up the moon… plus the 2 luminaries have entirely different qualitiesof light). I don’t think it’s likely that half the world is upside down or that we live in a galaxy surrounded by near-infinite materiality. Captain Cook’s logs indicate that it took 3-5 years (can’t recall exactly) to go around Antarctica (he thought it would take 3 months, according to Antarctica’s alleged size). Compasses don’t work well in the southern hemisphere, if at all. And then there is the law of correspondence: if there is no analog for something in nature, then it’s hasn’t anything to corroborate its truth. The globe model has no analog. At the center of every torus field is a plane of inertia (an atom is a torus, a brain is a torus, a torso is a torus–the inertial plane being the hara, from which martial artists learn to move from with grounded strength). It simply makes more sense to me that we’d be on this plane, rather than outside of a moving ball, half of us unwittingly upside-down. There are many other considerations, no doubt. I appreciate your effort. As for the “flat-earthers,” Empire benefits by making fun of them in furthering delusions of a material & mechanical cosmos in which all our powers of perception are total garbage (thereby inciting us to listen to the experts w multi-million dollar telescopes and endless budgets to deceive). I really enjoy your Revelation timeline work. You’re a good case-builder.
Respectfully,
Jana
Hi Jana, I don’t engage in the scientific discussion anymore as both sides present arguments that seem to make sense to them.
I don’t believe that the earth is hurtling through space either, as I think that Scripture and science point to a geocentric universe. https://biblicalgeocentrism.com
I’m glad that you enjoyed the Revelation Timeline Decoded explanation.
Respectfully,
David
Bro，I only read the contents of your book, and I found that you did not discuss the problem of gyroscopes. Someone detected the movement of gyroscopes in physics and electromagnetic waves which is the RLG, and both cannot be used in the stationary ball and the surface.
The goal of the book is to teach what Scripture proclaims about the shape of the earth and the design of the universe. I mention scientific findings that the signature of the universe points back to the globe earth as the center, but otherwise I don’t debate scientific because people can twist them to seemingly prove out their perspective. Read the whole book, not just the table of contents.
I had a problem with the “spinning earth” I never believed it as a child. Then I had a problem with the “ice wall” THANKS FOR OPENING MY EYES!
Yeah, flat earthers get that part right, that the earth is unmovable and that it’s not flying through space at crazy fast speeds. And the supposed ice wall is really the continent of Antarctica, which has been greatly distorted on the north-polar azimuthal equidistant map of the globe earth.
I finished your book last night. Thank you so much for writing this book. I no longer believe THE EARTH IS FLAT. This is such a very important issue to get right. Flat Earthers didn’t have another option. I hope all Flat Earthers read this book and get pulled from the abyss. IF THEY WANT THE TRUTH, YOU HAVE PROVIDED IT.
FLAT EARTHERS ARE BEING SET UP FOR ANOTHER LIE…
Thanks for sharing your story Cheryl! My research into the flat earth led me to see the truth of the geocentric universe, which has been hidden by the enemy. Keep learning and growing in The Way!
I’m not a flat earther, but I’ll raise two issues, both dealing cameras.
The first is the image with the guy standing in the ocean. The camera is clearly lower than him. If it was taken at eye level, the horizon would be aligned with his eyes. This is actually an art trick; no matter where you put a person, or how far away they are, you align their eyes with the horizon.
My second issue is with the images of the curvature of the earth. Windshield distortion is a dumb argument. Lens distortion is more likely. If you take a picture of a wall in your house and measure the lines, none of them will be straight from edge to edge.
Howdy! I am a flat earth believer, but I just wanted to say though I disagree with your model, I do appreciate it! And here is why. It proves scripture to be accurate. Ether way, globe or flat earth, God created this thing we call earth, and I love seeing other examples that expose the heliocentric lie. So thank you for being a truth seeker and doing your part to try and best understand this world we live in according to biblical concept. God bless!
Thank you for your comment Cody! We agree that evil men created the heliocentric deception to hide proof of the Creator and promote their wicked evolution doctrine. God bless!
Yeah, that one lost me too. It is funny to watch people yell aimlessly into the sky, lol.
As a person who has researched quite a lot on this topic, I find this page refreshing. I almost did a video once on the topic. But once you speak out against the official narrative you are immediately lumped in with flat earth’s even if you explicitly say that you don’t know what it is, only you can show strong evidence against the current teaching. My Main tennant is a math problem I worked out showing that the Earth (by the official book) is supposedly spinning at a rate of 24,000 miles an hour, so due to centrifugal force a man would have to gain approximately 1000 Lbs to travel from a pole to the equator and not be slung off her face into the ethos. The spinning wet tennis ball theory spelled out in numbers. But that of course does not prove anything between flat or round, it only supports that the earth is not moving. Which I see fits snugly into the geocentric model. And as you would expect, I have never seen the geocentric model. I have been “properly” debating the false dichotomy like a good little laodicean, “Wretched, Blind, and poor”. Truth has this feeling, when you’ve been searching for it, open minded, and your hear it, it clicks into place, exciting and calming at the same time.
And to M Lines above, Some great mind once said something about ignorant people are always sure of them selves, while the wise folks always doubt their knowledge, and can accept that they might be wrong. If you read a book authored by the man who wrote this page, you will see him many times say that he does not guarantee 100% accuracy in his details, But the main tennants are agreed upon by many throughout the ages.
Thank you for your comment Rick! Yeah, the false dichotomy of the heliocentric universe and the flat earth model deceives the masses. It effectively hides the geocentric universe that the Bible describes where the earth is immovable and the sun is moving around it in a circuit. Here’s a link to my geocentric universe website and book: https://biblicalgeocentrism.com
Your false doctrine is lead this that follow you to hell! What is our Abba Father, Creator in heavens name? And the one that came in the Fathers name!??
I won’t go to hell for teaching that the universe is geocentric and not heliocentric. As for the names of the Heavenly Father and His Son, you’re making assumptions about what I believe. https://comeoutofher.org/they-removed-the-names-of-the-father-and-the-son/
You prove nothing with your worthless MAN chatter and BS. Pics-photoshop. Talk === worth nothing. You dont even address the 1 important issue that proves to all on the earth immediatly that it is not a globe. We dont know what it is. The important issue we all know disproves — immediatly it is not a globe. To all that see the example of ” How can this be be”? It cant. You have no concern for mankind or your fellow man. Deceivers beyond the normal relm.
You lost me at MAN chatter. ROFL!
God saw this flat earth lie coming before he created the earth and heavens all planets are orbs and to prove it he put rings around one of them-Saturn. Many professional and photographers have taken pictures of Saturn so we know they exist, Also the OT testament was written in Hebrew if you look up circle in Hebrew it will translate it as a ball, orb or sphere. You might want to study latitude and longitude mapping of the globe. If there were no latitudes and longitudes, we can’t find the locations of continents and places in the globe
Ask any one who flies a plane or navigates a boat if they can travel any where in the world with out them. There is no way I could of travel any where in my boat without them. I would of end up very lost.