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The False Doctrine of the Flat Earth by David Nikao

If you’re a flat earther, have you studied the context of the Bible verses which are being cited to proclaim “the Bible says flat earth”?

This book goes through all 240 verses that people like Nathan Roberts cite, to show you the proper context; because if you’re promoting this list, then you’re accountable for the explanations.

It gives a fresh perspective about the ‘firmament‘ of Genesis; the ‘circle‘ of Isaiah 40:22; the clay turned to the ‘seal‘ in Job 38:13-14; the ‘pillars‘ of 1 Samuel 2:8; the sun going forth in his ‘circuit‘ of Psalms 19:6; and much more.

If you know someone who believes that the Scriptures describes a domed, flat earth; it will help you understand their rationale in citing these verses.

If you’re a believer who’s researching the flat earth, this book is critical for you.

If you believe in the heliocentric universe, have you read what Moses, Job, David, and Isaiah; declared about the earth, the sun, and the stars? The Bible describes a sun that moves in a circuit, which has been stopped, and has been moved back. And it describes an earth that is fixed. The Bible is purely geocentric, and there is no Scriptural justification for the heliocentric model.

The Bible also describes the lower circular layers which hold back the fountains of the deep; the spherical layers of atmosphere around the globe earth; the constellations on the ecliptic which encircles the globe earth; and the celestial sphere of stars which surround the globe earth as a tent, as a tabernacle.

The enemy is hiding the geocentric globe earth universe with the false narratives of the heliocentric universe and the flat earth model.

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The stars in the southern hemisphere prove that the earth is a globe.

On the flat earth model, if people in Australia, South Africa and South America, were all facing South, they would be facing opposite directions, so there’s no way that they can all see Sigma Octantis in the Octans constellation, which does not move. Yet people in those three Southern Hemisphere continents can look south and see stars circling around the south celestial pole.

On the flat earth model, if people in Australia, South Africa and South America, were all facing South, they would be facing opposite directions. Yet people in those three Southern Hemisphere continents can look South and see the South Celestial Pole star, and see the stars circling around it. This proves that the North and South Pole stars are at the top and bottom of the ball of lights, and the other stars are circling the globe Earth.

This proves that the north and south celestial pole stars are at the top and bottom of the celestial sphere, and the other stars are circling the globe Earth.

Flat-earthers proclaim that this is possible because when people are looking south, they’re seeing a reflection off of the glass dome of the stars in the northern hemisphere.

But that is a false explanation, as the stars in the northern hemisphere are different than the stars in the southern hemisphere. Here are the constellations in the northern hemisphere.

northern hemisphere stars

Here are the constellations in the southern hemisphere.

southern hemisphere stars

Question for flat earthers:  What is the scientific explanation for how the sun changes its path, to move from the larger circle of the Tropic of Capricorn (32,729 mile circumference) to the much smaller circle of the Tropic of Cancer (18,504 mile circumference)?

Question for flat earthers:  The winter solstice was on 12/21, so the sun is circling near the Tropic of Capricorn. What is the scientific explanation for how the sun changes its path, to move from the larger circle of the Tropic of Capricorn (32,729 mile circumference) to the much smaller circle of the Tropic of Cancer (18,504 mile circumference)?

And what is the scientific explanation for how the sun changes speed from 1,322 MPH on the larger circle to 771 MPH on the smaller circle, to complete exactly one revolution per day?
Please comment below.  Thank you!

Note: the numbers for the tropics are based on the supposed flat earth map, not on the globe. The supposed flat earth map is distorted, as it’s a north-polar azimuthal equidistant projection of the globe earth. So though the Tropics on the globe earth have a circumference of 22,847 miles, on the flat earth map they are distorted. Using the equator as a baseline at 24,901 miles in circumference; the numbers of the Tropic of Cancer (18,504 miles) and the Tropic of Capricorn (32,729 miles) are based on the geometry of the azimuthal projection; not the actual globe.

After a lot of research, I believe that the enemy has created a deception regarding the design of the universe.

The Illuminati card game has a Flat Earth card that says “People laugh, but the flat earthers know something”. What flat earthers know is that the earth isn’t flying through space orbiting the sun.  Astronomers and scientists have not proved that the Earth is moving.

And from our Earthly perspective, the planets and stars appear the same regardless of whether it’s the Copernican heliocentric view or the Tychonic geocentric view.

The deception is that the enemy has caused people to promote the heliocentric view based on philosophy, to not involve a Creator in the explanation of the design of the universe. And that led to the big bang theory, the theory of evolution, etc.; all of which steals glory from our Creator, and deceives people.

It wasn’t until scientific probes produced data about the radiation of the expanding universe, and the orientation of the quasars and radio galaxies; that researches were able to see that all of those things were pointing back to Earth as the center of the universe.

These findings were published in a book titled ‘Geocentrism 101 – An Introduction into the  Science of  Geocentric Cosmology‘ in 2013, and then explained in a movie called The Principle in late 2014.

Then shortly afterward the flat earth theory was aggressively pushed on YouTube and Facebook, to try to cover over the evidence, and to cause people to dismiss anyone who teaches that the Earth is geocentric.

The enemy has created a false dichotomy, so that the debate is between the geocentric flat earth vs. the heliocentric globe earth; so that people don’t consider the third option, that of the geocentric globe earth.

It puts the Earth at the center of the universe, proving a Designer/Creator, and explains why stars perfectly circle the Earth; while maintaining the laws of physics of the globe earth and the surrounding elaborate universe, which is a precision time-piece. Please read the geocentric Earth page, to see the scientific research that proves that we are at the center of the universe.

I’m not declaring that the earth is geocentric, as I can’t prove it scientifically; but when you look at how Bible verses seem to point to a geocentric earth, it’s an option that we need to consider. Read through the website, and you decide.

If you’re a flat-earther, you can decide to click away, thinking that you know the truth; but I would hope that your goal is to find the whole truth, not to defend a position.

People like Nathan Roberts and Rob Skiba point to Bible verses which they proclaim prove that the earth is flat; but the verses are taken out of context, and some of them prove that the earth is a globe.

Please read this Biblical Proofs Of The Geocentric Globe Earth study and decide for yourself.

Why would the enemy create the flat earth deception? Because most flat earthers are sharing truth in other areas, whether it’s about coming out of churchianity, about the Illuminati and their agenda, etc.; so by getting them to believe in the flat earth, they cause family and friends to stop listening to all that they teach.

On this page I will address the major challenges that I’ve found with the flat earth theory, which are explained in more detail on the other pages.

Here’s a video from the Geographic South Pole, looking straight up, which proves that the earth is not flat. 

We can see the perfect circle of stars which is only possible on the globe earth, as no point on the supposed ice ring would show the stars circling overhead.

Here’s a video of a 5-day time-lapse from March 8-13, 2017, taken from the Amundsen–Scott South Pole Station, which proves that the earth is not flat.

Airplane Video Proves Sun Is Not 3,000 Miles Above The Flat Earth

This observation is impossible on a Flat Earth with a Sun 3000 Miles above.  We can clearly see the Sun on the Horizon from 43,000 ft. The clouds beneath us are illuminated from below but are dark on top.

This geometry is impossible on a Flat Earth.  Of course – it works just fine on a Globe.

The Nikon P900 camera debunks the flat earth.

This video shows one ship that is moored near the horizon line, and the distant ship behind it which is well below the horizon; proving the curvature of the earth.

Some flat earthers commented that you should see the distant ship ’tilting’ if the Earth is curved, but the distance equates to only .23 degrees of tilt, which is not perceivable.

Sorry Flat Earthers The Equinox Geometry does NOT work on a Flat Earth.

The Flat Earth fails to explain the real observations we can make on the Equinox twice per year.

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A commercial pilot who is based out of Australia, who makes international flights in the southern hemisphere, shows that flat earthers cannot produce a legitimate pilots flight plan.

The video description says: A message to Flat Earthers. If you can’t show me a map that works and you can’t tell me how to navigate precisely around the real Earth you are wasting your time telling me the Earth is Flat. I can and do navigate precisely around the real Earth and I have been doing this safely for over 30 years using the Globe. Time to start producing real results guys. The same old nonsense arguments won’t cut it here any longer.

Flat earthers misrepresent the size of the sun, to proclaim that it gets smaller as it sets.

Flat earthers misrepresent the size of the sun, proclaiming that it is shrinking

Here’s one of Wolfie6020‘s short videos where he used two cameras to record at the same time, one with a solar filter, one without.

This video shows how the size of the sun in the hazy sky changes as the camera automatically adjusts.

Flat earthers tell us to trust our perspective, but when we do that, we see that the sun and moon do not line up with the flat earth theory.

Flat earthers proclaim that the moon is a flat disc, but that simply cannot be true.

This is so easily disproved, that it’s nonsensical for flat earthers to proclaim it.

Flat earthers proclaim that the moon is a flat disc, but that simply cannot be true.

The shadows on the moon prove that it is being illuminated from an external light source.

The sun obviously illuminates the moon, which is contrary to what flat earthers proclaim

Flat earthers cite Genesis 1:16 and say the the world ‘light‘ means that the moon is self-illuminated.

And God made two great lights; the greater light to rule the day, and the lesser light to rule the night: he made the stars also.”

The Hebrew word for ‘light’ points to a luminous body. It does not say that it provides its own illumination. ma’owr; properly, a luminous body or luminary, i.e. (abstractly) light (as an element): figuratively, brightness, i.e.cheerfulness; specifically, a chandelier:—bright, light.

Of course they have no way to scientifically explain how the moon illuminates itself, like we do for the Sun. And they cannot explain how the moon changes its illumination so that we see crescent moons and half moons.

It’s impossible for people on the flat earth model to see the same side of the moon.

People in northern and southern hemispheres would see different sides of the flat earth moon

We would see different sides of the moon, on the flat earth model.

The moon can't work properly on the flat earth

The sun and moon do not vanish as a small dot over the horizon; but rather, they rise up from under the horizon and set below the horizon.

On the flat earth, objects that are moving away would simply grow smaller and disappear at the vanishing point, but they would always stay above the horizon. But every day we see the Sun rise up from under the horizon, and set down below the horizon.

The rising moon proves the globe earth, not the flat earth

The setting sun proves the globe earth not the flat earth

It’s impossible for the sun to rise due East and set due West on the Equinox days.

The sun cannot work properly on the flat earth model.

The sun does not rise and set at the proper locations on the flat earth model.

Australia sun rises due East and sets due West on equinox, disproving flat earth theory

The paths of the 2017 and 2024 solar eclipses across the United States are impossible to explain on the flat earth model.

There is no scientific explanation for the solar eclipse on the flat earth model, and we can clearly see that the path of the eclipse across the United States, cannot match up with the circular path of the flat earth sun.

Here are the 2017 and 2024 eclipse paths overlaid on what people are calling a flat earth map. There is no way to explain how an eclipsed sun, which is circling south of the United States; could create shadows on the United States that curve in the opposite direction.

How do flat earthers scientifically predict upcoming solar and lunar eclipses? They don’t! There is no scientific data which shows what causes the eclipses (many flat earthers say that the moon doesn’t cause the solar eclipse), and when they will happen.

The Spring and Fall Equinox is a great time to prove whether the earth is flat or a globe.

Geodetic surveying shows that angles of the measured triangle exceed 180 degrees, proving that Earth is curved.  This is called ‘spherical excess’. 

Flat earthers push aside 100’s of years worth of measurements that have been recorded by geodesic surveyors all over the earth.

These surveyors have painstakingly taken measurements from point to point, and using geometry and triangulation, have determined the size of continents, and the shape of the earth. Triangulation on a flat earth would yield 180 degree sums, but surveyors have found that the sums are greater than 180 degrees, which proves the arc of the earth.  Read Geodesy Proof Of The Flat Earth Deception.

Geodetic surveying reveals that the angles of the measured triangle exceed 180 degrees, proving that the Earth is curved. This is called ‘spherical excess’. If the Earth was flat, the angles would add up to 180 degrees.

One of the biggest perspective problems is that flat earthers are applying the 8″ per mile squared earth curvature formula to wrong line.

The 8″ per mile squared calculation does not measure the curvature of the line of sight, your horizon line; it extends far beyond what you can see.

8 inch per mile squared formula for curved globe earth

One of the biggest perspective problems is that flat earthers are applying the 8" per mile earth curvature formula to wrong line.

Let’s apply this to a picture to see the difference between the level line and the horizon line.

Let's apply this to a picture to see the difference between the level line and the horizon line.

Here is the Earth’s Curve Horizon, Bulge, Drop, and Hidden Calculator, which people use to try to prove that the earth isn’t curved.  This is the default setting of the globe earth with a radius of 3,959 miles, which shows that if your view height is 6 feet, then your horizon line is 3 miles away.  And that’s pretty much what we see in real life.

Curved Earth Pythagorean theorem Formula

Most photos from flat earthers are taken from an elevated position, which extends the horizon line; so just plug the estimated height of the elevated position into the Metabunk Earth’s Curve Formula, and you will see that the horizon line matches up; proving the curved Earth.

Curved Earth Pythagorean theorem Formula viewer height

In the below calculation I used the Advanced option to add 7 zeroes after the planet radius, to mimic a planet that is so big that the flat top is bigger than the supposed flat earth. And it shows that if your view height is 6 feet, your horizon line is 9,482 miles away.

Curved Earth Pythagorean theorem Formula flat

Now of course your eyes can’t see that far, but a good telescope would be able to see across the flat plain to be able to see that far. The point is that if the earth really were flat, then you would be able to see much, much further than 3 miles.

Californians should be able to see Hawaii with a telescope, or Mt. McKinley, which is 20,000 feet high.  From atop of Pike Peaks, which is 14,000 feet high, I should be able to use a powerful telescope to see all of America.

But the reason that we can only see to the horizon line is because the earth is curved; you are seeing the bulge of the Earth.

Here is a more technical explanation of the Earth curvature formula, to see how it is being misapplied by flat earthers.

Here is a more technical explanation of the Earth curvature formula, to see how it is being misapplied by flat earthers.

There are a lot of explanations on this website which counter the flat earth explanations, but first let’s set the record straight about the map that most flat-earthers are using.

The map that flat-earthers use actually represents the globe earth!

Before computers, mapping out airplane flight routes was a challenge, as they had to use a globe, or images of the northern and southern hemispheres, like these.

Azimuthal equidistant map globes

To resolve this problem they created the azimuthal equidistant map, which allowed them to see all of the continents on one 2D map.

In order to do this, the bottom half of the globe earth had to be flared out into the outer circles. On the north-polar azimuthal projection map the northern hemisphere is shown in the inner circle, and the southern hemisphere is shown in the flared out circle that surrounds it.

The north-polar equidistant projectionmap is not a flat earth map!

These maps can be centered from anywhere.  If you were planning flights from London, you would center it on London. North-polar azimuthal projection maps were used during times of war, and the polar route is the shortest distance between countries.

Rendering a globe earth onto a 2D image always cause some distortion. On the azimuthal projection map, the further away the land mass is from the center point, the greater the distortion.  This is why Australia looks so wide, as it’s been stretched.

Since the continent of Antarctica is opposite of the North Pole on the globe earth, the only way to graphically represent it on the north-polar azimuthal projection map is by turning it inside out, and spreading it out as a white ring on the outside edge.

The South Pole is graphically represented by the outside line of the map. You can see that the white ring has several bays that match up to the Ross Sea, which is close to New Zealand; and Weddell Sea, which is close to South America.

Below is a south-polar azimuthal equidistant projection map.  You can see that Antarctica and Australia are now normal size, as they are close to the center point; but North America and Euro-Russia are very distorted.  And you can see that the outside edge is blue, because opposite of the South Pole is water on the North Pole.

Antartica south pole azimuthal map proces the flat earth theory is false

Here is a equidistant projection map that is centered on Santiago, Chile.  North and South America are normal size, as is Antarctica, since they are close to the center point; but Euro-Russia is greatly distorted, so much so that it is graphically rendered as a ring around the outside edge (just like the north-polar map).

 eqmap-santiago-chile

You can make your own azimuthal equidistant projection maps on this website. You just need to enter the location; such as 90N,0W for the north pole; and 90S, 0W for the south pole.

Here is a Hammond’s north-polar equidistant map for airplane travel, which is the same map that flat earthers use.

It has both sides of the globe represented, which are declaring that it is a projection of the globe earth onto a 2D map. You can clearly see the continent of Antarctica on the bottom of the globes in white.

Hammond's globe map is not a flat earth map

This close-up shows you that the globe declares the continent of Antarctica and the South Pole; and then again on the projection map.  It is declaring that the outside line is the South Pole.  It’s clearly telling you that the continent of Antarctica on the globe earth is represented as the white ring on the projection map.

Hammond's map declares that the ice ring is the continent of Antarctica

On the bottom left of the map is a guide to the distances between meridian (N-S) lines. The distance increases up to the equator, and then decrease at the same rate to the South Pole.  It’s declaring that though on the projection map it appears that the distances are become greater (because the southern hemisphere is flared out so that you can see it on a 2D projection map), that in fact they are getting smaller because the earth is globe-shaped.

Hammonds globe projection map meridian line distances prove that it is not a flat earth map

This Air Map Of The World from 1945 tells the truth, that the north-polar azimuthal equidistant projection represents a globe.

Notice that it doesn’t have an ice wall!  That is because they didn’t include the continent of Antarctica, because it is so greatly distorted.

azimuthal equidistant projection map is not a flat earth map

Here is the call out box on the top right:

This Air Map Of The World from 1945 tells the truth, that the north-polar azimuthal equidistant projection represents a globe.

It says “Since it is impossible to spread the surface of a globe on a flat surface without distortion, all maps are distorted in some respects.  In this map the distortion occurs in the east and west distances.  This distortion increases gradually from the North Pole to the Equator, and then quite rapidly to the outer limits.  The distortion of the Antarctic areas would be so great that these are not shown.”

So they didn’t even include the supposed ‘ice wall’, because it’s not an ice wall; it’s the continent of Antarctica, which is greatly distorted by the algorithm used to make the projection map.  Since Antarctica is opposite of the North Pole on the globe earth, the only way for the program to render it was to stretch it out as a circle.  The outer circle is the South Pole.   The continent has been inverted.

To prove that the supposed ice wall is really the distorted and inverted continent of Antarctica, here is an image that has the outer white ring and the continent of Antarctica.

The image keeps the land mass around the outside edge, and has the continent of Antarctica in the middle, as that is what is on the bottom of the globe.  The land mass is exaggerated, as the outside ring representation is exaggerated.  The continent is inverted to match the inverted outer circle, as the equidistant view is from the top down.

The flat earth map ice ring is actually antarctica

Look at the left side of the continent, which is small compared to the right side.  That matches the thin land mass of the left, compared to the right. Now look at the peninsula on the left lower side at 240 degrees.  It matches the peninsula on Antarctica.

The top of the circle is very thin and has a recess. That matches the curvature of the top of Antarctica.

On the bottom right at 110 degrees, there is a small indentation. That matches the bay on the southeast part of Antarctica.

Let’s take it one step further.  The bottom left red line shows that the meridian lines runs from the bay of Antarctica through South America. The bottom left red lines shows that the meridian line runs from the small bay runs through Asia.  The top red line shows that the meridian line runs from the other large bay in between North America and Russia.

Flat Earth map is equidistant map

The azimuthal equidistant map projection is only a tool, to help determine distances and flight maps on a globe earth.

Every time a flat-earther posts an explanation about direct airplane flights that they say is wrong on a globe earth; they are using this equidistant map, which is a globe map. Or worse, they use a Mercator projection map.

Flat earthers take words out of context to say that the Bible declares a flat earth.

They cite the words “pillars of the earth” to proclaim that the flat earth sit on top of pillars.

He raiseth up the poor out of the dust, and lifteth up the beggar from the dunghill, to set them among princes, and to make them inherit the throne of glory: for the pillars of the earth are the LORD’S, and he hath set the world upon them.” 1 Samuel 2:8

Read 1 Samuel 2:2-7, 9-10; you see that the word ‘pillars’ is referring to leaders of the earth, not physical pillars that support the flat earth.

Just like the saying that someone is a ‘pillar in the community’, it is declaring they are a strong leader. The context is clearly about Elohim raising seemingly lowly people and making them the leaders of the earth.  It is not talking about the design of the physical earth!

Flat earthers say that the ‘circle‘ in Isaiah 40:22 is declaring a flat circle earth.

It is he that sitteth upon the circle of the earth, and the inhabitants thereof are as grasshoppers; that stretcheth out the heavens as a curtain, and spreadeth them out as a tent to dwell in:

Let’s back up to get the context of the verse. Elohim is declaring the glory of His creation.

And to whom would you liken Ěl? And what likeness would you compare to Him? The workman moulds a graven image, and the goldsmith overspreads it with gold, and the silversmith casts silver chains. Isaiah 40:18-19

He is declaring that the works of man are nothing as compared to His creativity and power. Then He points out His Mazzoroth, the twelve signs in the heavenly circle, which have proclaimed His plan of redemption from the beginning.

Did you not know? Have you not heard? Has it not been declared to you from the beginning? Have you not understood from the foundations of the earth? Isaiah 40:21

Do you bring out the constellations (Mazzoroth) in its season? Or do you lead the Bear with its sons. Job 38:32

The CIRCLE in Isaiah 40:22 is the Mazzoroth in the sky above, that has 12 constellations in a circle on the ecliptic, which declare the Gospel. It is like a curtain which covers the earth, and in which the stars dwell.

The circle of Isaiah 40:22 is the ecliptic, not the flat earth circle

We see that Elohim tells them to look up to the celestial sphere (circle) of the stars of the Mazzoroth.

Lift up your eyes on high and see. Who has created these? He who is bringing out their host by number, He calls them all by name, by the greatness of His might and the strength of His power – not one is missing. Isaiah 40:26

He appoints the number of the stars, He gives names to all of them.” Psalm 147:4

So one can clearly see that when Elohim referred to the circle of the Earth, He is referring to the circle of the Mazzoroth which acts as a constant witness to those on earth, about His great power, and about His redemption plan.

The same Hebrew word, chuwg, is used in Job 22:14 to describe the circuit of heaven. “Thick clouds are a covering to him, that he seeth not; and he walketh in the circuit (chuwg) of heaven.”

Stop manipulating the Word of Elohim!  Read Biblical Proofs Of The Flat Earth Deception.

One of the most misleading things that proponents of the flat earth say is to ‘use your perspective as proof‘.

The challenge is that we are a small human on a large earth, so our perception is distorted.

We can only see so wide and far, so staring at a horizon that is only a few miles wide, we cannot see the curvature.

Flatearthers posts pictures from airplanes which seem to have a straight horizon, but when you put a line across the photo, you can see the curvature. In this image you can see the line is level with the horizon at the airplane pillar, and that there is a gap on the left and right side.

Airline pilot photo shows the curved earth

On this picture the red line is level on the left side, but you can clearly see the gap on the right side.

Airline pilot photo shows the curved earth 3

On this picture the red line is even on the sides, and you can see the curve of the earth in the center.

Supposed flat earth airplane image

Flatearthers counter by claiming that airplanes have curved glass that distorts the horizon.
Do you really think that airplanes would have glass in the cockpit that distorts the pilots view?
Does the windshield in your car cause the horizon to curve?  No!

Flat-earthers push aside the witness and photos of countless astronomers throughout the years and around the world, who have taken pictures of the planets and distant galaxies.

They proclaim that there are no real planets, and that they are just projections or lights. There are astronomy clubs at many schools and astronomy groups in most major cities, who take pictures of the moon, stars, planets and distant galaxies. There is just no way that all of that is a conspiracy to hide the flat earth theory.

You can buy phone apps that show you where to look in the sky for planets, so that you know where to look with your optical telescope.

You can visit astronomy clubs and they will let you look through their optical telescopes, to see the planets and distance galaxies for yourself.  There is simply no excuse for this laziness!

Read Astronomy Proves The Flat Earth Deception.

Flat earthers push aside the witness of people who work in companies that use satellites.

They proclaim that there are no satellites, but that everything is done through cables or ground-based antennas.

  • Meteorologists around the world use satellites to show storms like hurricanes.
  • Hughes Satellite internet service can’t work with cables or land-based antennas, as the locations that receive the signals are too remote.
  • Navstar GPS works in remote areas through satellites.
  • Look at a house with the Dish Network, Echostar, DirectTV. What direction is the dish pointed to? The sky!!!
  • Look at a remote-location TV news crew, where is their dish pointed to?  The sky!
  • Sirius radio provides signals to you when you are far away from ground based antennas
  • Look at remote military units and military facilities to see where their dishes are pointed to.  The sky!

To deny satellites is to deny the existence of a space program covering the US, EU, Russia, China, India, Brazil, employing tens of millions of people and spending tens of billions of dollars a year, putting satellites in orbit, sending probes everywhere, creating the GPS system, satellite TV, etc.

It would mean that all of that is faked, on an ongoing basis, and none of these tens of millions of people has ever exposed the lie. Read Satellites Prove The Flat Earth Deception.

They push aside the many people who have been to Antarctica as a researcher or tourist.

Flat earthers proclaim that the ice ring is protected so that nobody can see the end of the flat earth. But that is ludicrous as people visit every year for research and for tourism.

Read Antarctica Proves The Flat Earth Deception

So why is the flat earth a topic these days? 

More and more people on Facebook and YouTube are promoting the flat earth theory, with ridiculous explanations that prove nothing. Many of these people expose other conspiracies that have been foisted upon us; and they expose the truth about the Father and Son’s true names, about the Holy Feast Days, corrupt Bibles, etc.

So I believe that the enemy is getting them to believe in the flat-earth theory, so that others will discount all that they are proclaiming. It’s called a PSYOP, a Psychological Operation.

I think that flat-earthers are going to make everyone so tired of hearing about it, that people will not seek any of the truths that they share.  Many of them opening condemn everyone who doesn’t believe it, calling them fools and globeheads.

The story that Christians believed in a flat earth until Columbus’ time, and for some time thereafter, began as part of a fictional story that was elevated to historical fact by late 19th-century Darwinists who used it primarily as a means to ridicule Christians. Sadly that appears to be happening again, as truthers who proclaim the flat earth are being ridiculed.

I hope that this page has helped to open your eyes to the truth, that the earth is a globe.

If you have some insight to prove that what I have shown is not correct, please comment below. If you just want to make statements, without any proof; or if you just want to make accusations against me; then your comment may not be added to the discussion.

David

p.s. My explanations are logical, and are based on what we can see.  I don’t offer scientific explanations, because that is not my strength. Sadly, I see flat earthers mocking scientific explanations about the globe earth, but giving really unscientific answers.

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  1. “Morning Star’s Tale”
    Preface:
    Recently, the Lucifer disclosed the mysteries of his flat earth and occultic kingdom, including the physical and spiritual laws that govern the universe.
    Knowing the vast majority of humans would reject his uncomfortable truth, Morning Star proceeded to write a book revealing the hidden secrets of antiquity.
    When asked about his motivation for such an endeavor, Morning Star scornfully laughed and replied it was an experiment for his own twisted amusement.

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    • So this is just a blatant ad for your flat earth book? 😛 Melbourne looks pretty flat on the map to me, so I guess you’re right.

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  2. I was believing in the flat earth movement until I seen this page, now it all makes sense, I remember watching the principle, now I see the significance. However I have only 2 questions. Do you believe the sun of the geocentric globe earth sun to be small and local? In one of your diagrams it showed it as being further from the earth, but the other said it was closer. As we all know there have been clear photos taken of the sun below clouds and even in front of clouds. Does the geocentric globe earth sun change course in summer and winter, or does it just simply rotate round the earth? Which could explain the changes of temperatures according to the season.

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    • Thank you for your comment Simon. No, I don’t believe that the sun is small and local in the geocentric universe. The sun appears below clouds in the early morning or the late evening. Though it can appear to be in front of clouds, that’s an illusion, as the sun shines so bright that less dense clouds can seem to disappear in front of it. You can find more detailed explanations about the seasons on the geocentric earth on Robert Sungenis’s website. http://galileowaswrong.com

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  3. Space isn’t a vaccuum, earth isn’t a ball and it isn’t flat.

    Earth is in the centre and it’s a terrarium and a footstool for Elohim.

    That being said, the Old Testament does in fact present the disc with a solid dome and the word translated “circle” in Isaiah 40 “circle of the earth” is חוּג chug which means circle, compass or circuit as opposed to דּוּר dur which means a pile, heap or ball as well as translated one time as encircling or round about.

    So regardless of whether or not the writers of the Old Testament believed in a globe or a disc cosmology, they described the disc/dome cosmology. Their reasoning could be that’s how they saw it or it could be that they were using a universal belief to make a theological argument.

    Either way, if they had wanted to describe the shape of Earth as a ball, they would have used the word דּוּר dur, and not חוּג chug.

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    • Rinon, the ‘circle of the earth’ is not describing the earth, it’s describing the ecliptic circle. Read the context of the verses around Isaiah 40:22 and you see that the context is the stars.

      Isaiah 40:21 is pointing to the Gospel message, which is written in the 12 constellations on the ecliptic circle which surrounds the globe earth, “Have ye not known? have ye not heard? hath it not been told you from the beginning? have ye not understood from the foundations of the earth?”

      Isaiah 40:26 is telling Isaiah to look up at the stars, “Lift up your eyes on high, and behold who hath created these things, that bringeth out their host by number: he calleth them all by names by the greatness of his might, for that he is strong in power; not one faileth.”

      If Isaiah was describing a flat earth, then he would have used to word ’round’ which describes a disc-shaped object. The Strong’s Hebrew for the word “round” is 5696 `agol; which means: to revolve, circular:—round.

      These verses use the word “round” to describe a 3D disc with height, which seems like a much better fit to describe a disc earth.

      “And he made a molten sea, ten cubits from the one brim to the other: it was round all about, and his height was five cubits: and a line of thirty cubits did compass it round about.” 1 Kings 7:23

      “And in the top of the base was there a round compass of half a cubit high: and on the top of the base the ledges hereof and the borders thereof were
      of the same.”
      1 Kings 7:35

      The point I’m making is that Isaiah didn’t use the word “round,” which is the better word to describe a disk-shaped flat earth.
      And he didn’t use the word “ball,” which points to a globe-shaped earth. He used the word “circle” for a reason, as he is not describing the earth itself.
      Isaiah 40:22 doesn’t say “circular earth,” it says “the circle of the earth.”

      The circle is the focus, not the earth. Just like you would say ‘the ring of Saturn’ to point to the ring, not the planet; Isaiah is pointing to the circle, not the earth. The context of the verse shows that he’s pointing to the ecliptic circle in the expanse of the heavens, which surrounds the globe earth.

      https://flatearthdeception.com/biblical-proofs-of-the-globe-earth/

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  4. I have a silly question –
    If I get on a plane at the North Pole and fly in a direct path down to the South Pole, will I find myself and the plane eventually upside.

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    • No Shane. This seems to be something that many flat earthers have problems with although very simple to understand.

      There is no up or down in the universe, it is a 3D space. When we say ‘down’ here on the surface of the earth we really mean towards the centre of the earth, the direction that the earths gravity pulls us. ‘Up’ is radially outwards from the centre of the earth outwards into space. Therefore ti answer your question, no the plane will not be ‘upside down’ it will still have its bottom surface pointed towards the centre of the earth and therefore be the right way up to us.

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  5. The evidence for globe earth being correct is so great that there can be no serious rebuttal to it. Claiming that curvature of the horizon can be detected with our eyes does not help in this regard. If the earth’s horizon curved when looking left or right, it could never meet again behind us. You can see it curving down and away, however.

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    • Thank you for your comment Roby! I think that one of the biggest proofs is that the horizon line always appears at the distance that the earth curvature formula says that it will. How do people not see that?

      That’s why you can stand on the shore of the ocean and only see for three miles, because the earth is curving away. The fourth mile may only my 8″ below the previous three miles, but that’s enough for it to be hidden.

      If the earth was flat, we would be able to see much further!

      It ain’t rocket science! 😛 https://flatearthdeception.com/perspective-proves-the-flat-earth-deception/

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  6. You guys, I’ve been fighting back and fourth over this all for sometime. Regardless of the shape of the earth the most important thing is just to turn to God and Repent, as more then likely we are living in the end times. If you are a truth seeker, I get it. But come to your own opinion and if some one debates you then oh well we all have different opinions. Most importantly is to believe in The most High, our Heavenly Father and the creator of earth (flat or round) to me this fight back and fourth is the ultimate deception, it’s driving us away from the Important thing here. God. Just saying, stay blessed guys.

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    • Thank you for your comment John! It would seem that the enemy has created a false dichotomy, which causes flat-earthers and heliocentric globe-earthers to fight each other. And all of that covers over the real truth, that the globe earth is the center of the universe, which proves a designer.

      For me, it’s worth the effort to help people see that truth, because when they realize that Scripture describes a geocentric globe earth, then the deception of evolution is destroyed. And when that happens, many people can be saved, knowing that the creation matches the Creator of the Holy Scriptures.

      May the Heavenly Father bless you and keep you!
      David

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      • I wrote out a much longer comment before, but it got marked as spam, so Ill make this much shorter.

        You say that you want people to see the Geocentric globe Earth midground once they come to this website, which is fine. But you do not advertise that nearly enough. If you want to put God first and properly advertise that to people, you would make sure to advertise the Geocentricity more than you’re doing.

        Also, it seems like you put a lot of faith in NASA. Looking at the occult symobology on their mission emblems, and the freemason astronauts in their ranks, it seems like you should be much more skeptical of them than you are.

        I have not seen your stance on the moon landings, but theres some rather clear evidence pointing to them being faked.

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        • Greg, I’m writing a book about the flat earth verses that are cited, and will cover verses that describe a geocentric globe earth. So more information is coming. It’s been a learning experience writing the book, and I haven’t updated the website with the new information yet.

          As for putting faith in NASA, how do I cite anything from NASA on this website? I believe that the Neil Armstrong moon landing was faked. NASA has a much more sinister agenda than just hiding the orientation of the universe. They’re spying on us, putting weapons in space, etc.

          That said, it’s not my mission to prove NASA wrong. People on both sides debate NASA and nobody changes their mind.

          I have a different approach to the debate, such as providing explanations for the verses that flat earthers cite; and providing simple things that people can observe to prove that the earth is curved.

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  7. It is stationary. Meaning it does not move. The scriptures say that it’s fixed. The firmament is the second heaven. It is described as a molten glass by Job. It’s a structure. It looks like in upside down round bowl. In it and close to it are the lights. Stars, Moon, Sun. The Sun and Moon are the ones that are moving, not the Earth. The scriptures say God sits on top of the Firmament. So how does that line up with the suppose pictures of Earth, we see from so called space? He resides in the third Heaven which is outside of Earth. At the top to be exact. The Earth is his footstool. I never heard of a spinning footstool.

    NASA is run by Freemasons. Please research this. Why would you as a Christian believe what these people say? Do you not know the Devil is a liar?
    Research Operation Paperclip and Nicolai Copernicus. He’s the Jesuit that came up with Heliocentric model. Prior to that, all civilizations knew that the Earth was flat stationary plane. Including the Hebrew Israelites. Including the prophets.

    The only lie here is the Heliocentric model from the Devil. To eliminate God. This model also is in line with the lie of the Big Bang. The Devil wants you to believe that there is no creator and all of what we see, just happened by chance.

    Here is a pastor explaining in details:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tLUj2LpC-60

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZXr_AS9jyt8

    I won’t respond to you cause I don’t debate on the internet. I’m just hoping you truly look into this. Ask the Lord to reveal what’s true and what’s not. If you did, you would not be saying that it’s a Globe.

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    • LOL! You say that you won’t respond to me as you don’t debate on the internet; yet here you are voicing your opinion, debating me, on the internet. Too funny!

      Most of your explanation is to counter the heliocentric model, but if you actually read this website, you would see that I believe that the globe earth is at the center of the universe, and not moving. http://flatearthdeception.com/the-hidden-option-of-the-geocentric-globe-earth/

      There’s nothing on this website defending NASA or showing anything from NASA. I am well aware of the agenda of NASA, but it is much bigger than just hiding the supposed flat earth.

      I am aware of Copernicus’s role in promoting heliocentrism. He waited until he was near death before publishing his work, as he knew that the geocentric scientists in the world would reject it and mock him. That said, the flat earth model is not a geocentric earth.

      The Airy’s Failure experiment, and the Michelson-Morley experiment, both proved that the globe earth is not moving.

      The Tychonic geocentric universe points to the Designer, the Creator. Sadly, the flat earth movement is hiding the real truth that the enemy is hiding.

      The Heavenly Father has revealed what’s true to me, and I’m writing a book about it.

      fyi, the circle of Isaiah 40:22 is not pointing to the earth, but to the ecliptic circle that surrounds the globe earth. That’s why the focus of the surrounding verses is on the host, the stars, of heaven. That is why Isaiah was told to look up, as the Gospel narrative was written in the stars at creation.

      Here’s a study that proves out what Scripture declares about the shape of the earth. http://flatearthdeception.com/biblical-proofs-of-the-globe-earth/

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      • Two things, in case my previous comment didn’t go through:

        1) You need to advertise the geocentricity more, its very important for people to see that

        2) What is the “deception” that the Flat Earth movement produces? Is it too ridiculous that it makes the geocentric model look bad?

        The Flat Earth movement was great on youtube in its hay day before youtube shut it out of the search/recommendation results, as it helped to turn people back to God and the Bible.

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        • Greg, I will advertise my upcoming book when it’s available; which covers geocentricity in much more detail.

          The flat earth movement is a deception, because we can prove that the earth is curved; so I’m not really understanding your second question. The sun and moon witness to you every day that the earth is curved, yet you ignore their witness. They both stay the same size all the way across the sky, which proves that the earth is a globe.

          If the earth were flat, they would appear as a small dot on the eastern horizon, then drastically grow in size until they’re overhead, and then shrink down to a small dot in the western horizon. Simple as that, but you make excuses.

          Flat-earthers take poor videos of the sun supposedly shrinking on the western horizon, that that’s because the sun appears enlarged due to sun glare in the haze of the sky. All they have to do is use a solar filter, and they will see that the sun stays the same size.

          All you have to do is plug your observer height into the earth curvature formula, and the distance that you can see matches the curvature formula distance to the horizon; which proves that the earth is curved. The reason that you can see for 3 miles when standing on the shore is because the earth is curved. If the earth were flat, we would be able to see much further.

          All you have to do is use the Theodolite app for your phone to prove that the horizon does not rise up to meet our eyes.

          And yes, the flat earth theory makes the geocentric model look bad. That’s part of the enemy’s strategy for pushing the flat earth theory, to get people to dismiss anything geocentric.

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  8. Thank you.
    I haven’t gone through the entire site yet but you have answered a lot of questions already. One think I will be looking for is the answer to laser tests that seem to show the earth as either flat or much larger than we are told.

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    • Thank you for your comment Luke. Whenever I see experiments by flat-earthers, there’s always a problem with their explanation. Some don’t account for refraction, some don’t account for the elevation of the object in the distance, etc. Here’s a link to a Discovery Channel video where they did a laser test across a lake and proved the curvature. https://youtu.be/QVa2UmgdTM4

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  9. Wow this is fascinating, the disinformation campaign. Yes our earth is flat, the very term infers that there is something wrong with the idea, this is only because of the indoctrination and conditioning we have been experiencing our entire lives; even to this day. Nevertheless, the biggest evidence for flat earth lies at the North Pole, the FACT that countless civilizations have documented land at the center of our Earth, whereas bullshit governments tell us there is nothing there at all; WOW. And so, they further cemented that GODDAMN LIE with the creation of NASA and all other space agencies. Mercator created a map in 1569 that depicted the 4 land masses in the north as well as a giant magnetic mountain (Rupes Nigra) at the pole itself, in which waters flow into the earth, into the land of the Black Sun; Hyperborea. The rays of the Black Sun come to our land thru the top of Rupes Nigra and we know those rays/light as the Aurora Borealis; this Phenomenon can only be seen by countries in the article circle, countries literally surrounding the North Pole or Polvs Arctivs. This is where the garden of eden of is located, at the center of creation. Consider the ripple effect, a drop of water into an ocean, you can see from the centerpoint it ripples vibrating in all directions until it fizzes out/runs out if energy. This is how our world was created, with the 4 land masses/islands and Rupes Nigra at the epicenter of creation.

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