If you’re a flat earther, have you studied the context of the Bible verses which are being cited to proclaim “the Bible says flat earth”?
This book goes through all 240 verses that people like Nathan Roberts cite, to show you the proper context; because if you’re promoting this list, then you’re accountable for the explanations.
It gives a fresh perspective about the ‘firmament‘ of Genesis; the ‘circle‘ of Isaiah 40:22; the clay turned to the ‘seal‘ in Job 38:13-14; the ‘pillars‘ of 1 Samuel 2:8; the sun going forth in his ‘circuit‘ of Psalms 19:6; and much more.
If you know someone who believes that the Scriptures describes a domed, flat earth; it will help you understand their rationale in citing these verses.
If you’re a believer who’s researching the flat earth, this book is critical for you.
If you believe in the heliocentric universe, have you read what Moses, Job, David, and Isaiah; declared about the earth, the sun, and the stars? The Bible describes a sun that moves in a circuit, which has been stopped, and has been moved back. And it describes an earth that is fixed. The Bible is purely geocentric, and there is no Scriptural justification for the heliocentric model.
The Bible also describes the lower circular layers which hold back the fountains of the deep; the spherical layers of atmosphere around the globe earth; the constellations on the ecliptic which encircles the globe earth; and the celestial sphere of stars which surround the globe earth as a tent, as a tabernacle.
The enemy is hiding the geocentric globe earth universe with the false narratives of the heliocentric universe and the flat earth model.
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The stars in the southern hemisphere prove that the earth is a globe.
On the flat earth model, if people in Australia, South Africa and South America, were all facing South, they would be facing opposite directions, so there’s no way that they can all see Sigma Octantis in the Octans constellation, which does not move. Yet people in those three Southern Hemisphere continents can look south and see stars circling around the south celestial pole.
This proves that the north and south celestial pole stars are at the top and bottom of the celestial sphere, and the other stars are circling the globe Earth.
Flat-earthers proclaim that this is possible because when people are looking south, they’re seeing a reflection off of the glass dome of the stars in the northern hemisphere.
But that is a false explanation, as the stars in the northern hemisphere are different than the stars in the southern hemisphere. Here are the constellations in the northern hemisphere.
Here are the constellations in the southern hemisphere.
Question for flat earthers: What is the scientific explanation for how the sun changes its path, to move from the larger circle of the Tropic of Capricorn (32,729 mile circumference) to the much smaller circle of the Tropic of Cancer (18,504 mile circumference)?
And what is the scientific explanation for how the sun changes speed from 1,322 MPH on the larger circle to 771 MPH on the smaller circle, to complete exactly one revolution per day?
Please comment below. Thank you!
Note: the numbers for the tropics are based on the supposed flat earth map, not on the globe. The supposed flat earth map is distorted, as it’s a north-polar azimuthal equidistant projection of the globe earth. So though the Tropics on the globe earth have a circumference of 22,847 miles, on the flat earth map they are distorted. Using the equator as a baseline at 24,901 miles in circumference; the numbers of the Tropic of Cancer (18,504 miles) and the Tropic of Capricorn (32,729 miles) are based on the geometry of the azimuthal projection; not the actual globe.
After a lot of research, I believe that the enemy has created a deception regarding the design of the universe.
The Illuminati card game has a Flat Earth card that says “People laugh, but the flat earthers know something”. What flat earthers know is that the earth isn’t flying through space orbiting the sun. Astronomers and scientists have not proved that the Earth is moving.
And from our Earthly perspective, the planets and stars appear the same regardless of whether it’s the Copernican heliocentric view or the Tychonic geocentric view.
The deception is that the enemy has caused people to promote the heliocentric view based on philosophy, to not involve a Creator in the explanation of the design of the universe. And that led to the big bang theory, the theory of evolution, etc.; all of which steals glory from our Creator, and deceives people.
It wasn’t until scientific probes produced data about the radiation of the expanding universe, and the orientation of the quasars and radio galaxies; that researches were able to see that all of those things were pointing back to Earth as the center of the universe.
These findings were published in a book titled ‘Geocentrism 101 – An Introduction into the Science of Geocentric Cosmology‘ in 2013, and then explained in a movie called The Principle in late 2014.
Then shortly afterward the flat earth theory was aggressively pushed on YouTube and Facebook, to try to cover over the evidence, and to cause people to dismiss anyone who teaches that the Earth is geocentric.
The enemy has created a false dichotomy, so that the debate is between the geocentric flat earth vs. the heliocentric globe earth; so that people don’t consider the third option, that of the geocentric globe earth.
It puts the Earth at the center of the universe, proving a Designer/Creator, and explains why stars perfectly circle the Earth; while maintaining the laws of physics of the globe earth and the surrounding elaborate universe, which is a precision time-piece. Please read the geocentric Earth page, to see the scientific research that proves that we are at the center of the universe.
I’m not declaring that the earth is geocentric, as I can’t prove it scientifically; but when you look at how Bible verses seem to point to a geocentric earth, it’s an option that we need to consider. Read through the website, and you decide.
If you’re a flat-earther, you can decide to click away, thinking that you know the truth; but I would hope that your goal is to find the whole truth, not to defend a position.
People like Nathan Roberts and Rob Skiba point to Bible verses which they proclaim prove that the earth is flat; but the verses are taken out of context, and some of them prove that the earth is a globe.
Please read this Biblical Proofs Of The Geocentric Globe Earth study and decide for yourself.
Why would the enemy create the flat earth deception? Because most flat earthers are sharing truth in other areas, whether it’s about coming out of churchianity, about the Illuminati and their agenda, etc.; so by getting them to believe in the flat earth, they cause family and friends to stop listening to all that they teach.
On this page I will address the major challenges that I’ve found with the flat earth theory, which are explained in more detail on the other pages.
Here’s a video from the Geographic South Pole, looking straight up, which proves that the earth is not flat.
We can see the perfect circle of stars which is only possible on the globe earth, as no point on the supposed ice ring would show the stars circling overhead.
Here’s a video of a 5-day time-lapse from March 8-13, 2017, taken from the Amundsen–Scott South Pole Station, which proves that the earth is not flat.
Airplane Video Proves Sun Is Not 3,000 Miles Above The Flat Earth
This observation is impossible on a Flat Earth with a Sun 3000 Miles above. We can clearly see the Sun on the Horizon from 43,000 ft. The clouds beneath us are illuminated from below but are dark on top.
This geometry is impossible on a Flat Earth. Of course – it works just fine on a Globe.
The Nikon P900 camera debunks the flat earth.
This video shows one ship that is moored near the horizon line, and the distant ship behind it which is well below the horizon; proving the curvature of the earth.
Some flat earthers commented that you should see the distant ship ’tilting’ if the Earth is curved, but the distance equates to only .23 degrees of tilt, which is not perceivable.
Sorry Flat Earthers The Equinox Geometry does NOT work on a Flat Earth.
The Flat Earth fails to explain the real observations we can make on the Equinox twice per year.
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A commercial pilot who is based out of Australia, who makes international flights in the southern hemisphere, shows that flat earthers cannot produce a legitimate pilots flight plan.
The video description says: A message to Flat Earthers. If you can’t show me a map that works and you can’t tell me how to navigate precisely around the real Earth you are wasting your time telling me the Earth is Flat. I can and do navigate precisely around the real Earth and I have been doing this safely for over 30 years using the Globe. Time to start producing real results guys. The same old nonsense arguments won’t cut it here any longer.
Flat earthers misrepresent the size of the sun, to proclaim that it gets smaller as it sets.
Here’s one of Wolfie6020‘s short videos where he used two cameras to record at the same time, one with a solar filter, one without.
This video shows how the size of the sun in the hazy sky changes as the camera automatically adjusts.
Flat earthers tell us to trust our perspective, but when we do that, we see that the sun and moon do not line up with the flat earth theory.
Flat earthers proclaim that the moon is a flat disc, but that simply cannot be true.
This is so easily disproved, that it’s nonsensical for flat earthers to proclaim it.
The shadows on the moon prove that it is being illuminated from an external light source.
Flat earthers cite Genesis 1:16 and say the the world ‘light‘ means that the moon is self-illuminated.
“And God made two great lights; the greater light to rule the day, and the lesser light to rule the night: he made the stars also.”
The Hebrew word for ‘light’ points to a luminous body. It does not say that it provides its own illumination. ma’owr; properly, a luminous body or luminary, i.e. (abstractly) light (as an element): figuratively, brightness, i.e.cheerfulness; specifically, a chandelier:—bright, light.
Of course they have no way to scientifically explain how the moon illuminates itself, like we do for the Sun. And they cannot explain how the moon changes its illumination so that we see crescent moons and half moons.
It’s impossible for people on the flat earth model to see the same side of the moon.
We would see different sides of the moon, on the flat earth model.
The sun and moon do not vanish as a small dot over the horizon; but rather, they rise up from under the horizon and set below the horizon.
On the flat earth, objects that are moving away would simply grow smaller and disappear at the vanishing point, but they would always stay above the horizon. But every day we see the Sun rise up from under the horizon, and set down below the horizon.
It’s impossible for the sun to rise due East and set due West on the Equinox days.
The sun does not rise and set at the proper locations on the flat earth model.
The paths of the 2017 and 2024 solar eclipses across the United States are impossible to explain on the flat earth model.
There is no scientific explanation for the solar eclipse on the flat earth model, and we can clearly see that the path of the eclipse across the United States, cannot match up with the circular path of the flat earth sun.
How do flat earthers scientifically predict upcoming solar and lunar eclipses? They don’t! There is no scientific data which shows what causes the eclipses (many flat earthers say that the moon doesn’t cause the solar eclipse), and when they will happen.
The Spring and Fall Equinox is a great time to prove whether the earth is flat or a globe.
Geodetic surveying shows that angles of the measured triangle exceed 180 degrees, proving that Earth is curved. This is called ‘spherical excess’.
Flat earthers push aside 100’s of years worth of measurements that have been recorded by geodesic surveyors all over the earth.
These surveyors have painstakingly taken measurements from point to point, and using geometry and triangulation, have determined the size of continents, and the shape of the earth. Triangulation on a flat earth would yield 180 degree sums, but surveyors have found that the sums are greater than 180 degrees, which proves the arc of the earth. Read Geodesy Proof Of The Flat Earth Deception.
One of the biggest perspective problems is that flat earthers are applying the 8″ per mile squared earth curvature formula to wrong line.
The 8″ per mile squared calculation does not measure the curvature of the line of sight, your horizon line; it extends far beyond what you can see.
Let’s apply this to a picture to see the difference between the level line and the horizon line.
Here is the Earth’s Curve Horizon, Bulge, Drop, and Hidden Calculator, which people use to try to prove that the earth isn’t curved. This is the default setting of the globe earth with a radius of 3,959 miles, which shows that if your view height is 6 feet, then your horizon line is 3 miles away. And that’s pretty much what we see in real life.
Most photos from flat earthers are taken from an elevated position, which extends the horizon line; so just plug the estimated height of the elevated position into the Metabunk Earth’s Curve Formula, and you will see that the horizon line matches up; proving the curved Earth.
In the below calculation I used the Advanced option to add 7 zeroes after the planet radius, to mimic a planet that is so big that the flat top is bigger than the supposed flat earth. And it shows that if your view height is 6 feet, your horizon line is 9,482 miles away.
Now of course your eyes can’t see that far, but a good telescope would be able to see across the flat plain to be able to see that far. The point is that if the earth really were flat, then you would be able to see much, much further than 3 miles.
Californians should be able to see Hawaii with a telescope, or Mt. McKinley, which is 20,000 feet high. From atop of Pike Peaks, which is 14,000 feet high, I should be able to use a powerful telescope to see all of America.
But the reason that we can only see to the horizon line is because the earth is curved; you are seeing the bulge of the Earth.
Here is a more technical explanation of the Earth curvature formula, to see how it is being misapplied by flat earthers.
There are a lot of explanations on this website which counter the flat earth explanations, but first let’s set the record straight about the map that most flat-earthers are using.
The map that flat-earthers use actually represents the globe earth!
Before computers, mapping out airplane flight routes was a challenge, as they had to use a globe, or images of the northern and southern hemispheres, like these.
To resolve this problem they created the azimuthal equidistant map, which allowed them to see all of the continents on one 2D map.
In order to do this, the bottom half of the globe earth had to be flared out into the outer circles. On the north-polar azimuthal projection map the northern hemisphere is shown in the inner circle, and the southern hemisphere is shown in the flared out circle that surrounds it.
These maps can be centered from anywhere. If you were planning flights from London, you would center it on London. North-polar azimuthal projection maps were used during times of war, and the polar route is the shortest distance between countries.
Rendering a globe earth onto a 2D image always cause some distortion. On the azimuthal projection map, the further away the land mass is from the center point, the greater the distortion. This is why Australia looks so wide, as it’s been stretched.
Since the continent of Antarctica is opposite of the North Pole on the globe earth, the only way to graphically represent it on the north-polar azimuthal projection map is by turning it inside out, and spreading it out as a white ring on the outside edge.
The South Pole is graphically represented by the outside line of the map. You can see that the white ring has several bays that match up to the Ross Sea, which is close to New Zealand; and Weddell Sea, which is close to South America.
Below is a south-polar azimuthal equidistant projection map. You can see that Antarctica and Australia are now normal size, as they are close to the center point; but North America and Euro-Russia are very distorted. And you can see that the outside edge is blue, because opposite of the South Pole is water on the North Pole.
Here is a equidistant projection map that is centered on Santiago, Chile. North and South America are normal size, as is Antarctica, since they are close to the center point; but Euro-Russia is greatly distorted, so much so that it is graphically rendered as a ring around the outside edge (just like the north-polar map).
You can make your own azimuthal equidistant projection maps on this website. You just need to enter the location; such as 90N,0W for the north pole; and 90S, 0W for the south pole.
Here is a Hammond’s north-polar equidistant map for airplane travel, which is the same map that flat earthers use.
It has both sides of the globe represented, which are declaring that it is a projection of the globe earth onto a 2D map. You can clearly see the continent of Antarctica on the bottom of the globes in white.
This close-up shows you that the globe declares the continent of Antarctica and the South Pole; and then again on the projection map. It is declaring that the outside line is the South Pole. It’s clearly telling you that the continent of Antarctica on the globe earth is represented as the white ring on the projection map.
On the bottom left of the map is a guide to the distances between meridian (N-S) lines. The distance increases up to the equator, and then decrease at the same rate to the South Pole. It’s declaring that though on the projection map it appears that the distances are become greater (because the southern hemisphere is flared out so that you can see it on a 2D projection map), that in fact they are getting smaller because the earth is globe-shaped.
This Air Map Of The World from 1945 tells the truth, that the north-polar azimuthal equidistant projection represents a globe.
Notice that it doesn’t have an ice wall! That is because they didn’t include the continent of Antarctica, because it is so greatly distorted.
Here is the call out box on the top right:
It says “Since it is impossible to spread the surface of a globe on a flat surface without distortion, all maps are distorted in some respects. In this map the distortion occurs in the east and west distances. This distortion increases gradually from the North Pole to the Equator, and then quite rapidly to the outer limits. The distortion of the Antarctic areas would be so great that these are not shown.”
So they didn’t even include the supposed ‘ice wall’, because it’s not an ice wall; it’s the continent of Antarctica, which is greatly distorted by the algorithm used to make the projection map. Since Antarctica is opposite of the North Pole on the globe earth, the only way for the program to render it was to stretch it out as a circle. The outer circle is the South Pole. The continent has been inverted.
To prove that the supposed ice wall is really the distorted and inverted continent of Antarctica, here is an image that has the outer white ring and the continent of Antarctica.
The image keeps the land mass around the outside edge, and has the continent of Antarctica in the middle, as that is what is on the bottom of the globe. The land mass is exaggerated, as the outside ring representation is exaggerated. The continent is inverted to match the inverted outer circle, as the equidistant view is from the top down.
Look at the left side of the continent, which is small compared to the right side. That matches the thin land mass of the left, compared to the right. Now look at the peninsula on the left lower side at 240 degrees. It matches the peninsula on Antarctica.
The top of the circle is very thin and has a recess. That matches the curvature of the top of Antarctica.
On the bottom right at 110 degrees, there is a small indentation. That matches the bay on the southeast part of Antarctica.
Let’s take it one step further. The bottom left red line shows that the meridian lines runs from the bay of Antarctica through South America. The bottom left red lines shows that the meridian line runs from the small bay runs through Asia. The top red line shows that the meridian line runs from the other large bay in between North America and Russia.
The azimuthal equidistant map projection is only a tool, to help determine distances and flight maps on a globe earth.
Every time a flat-earther posts an explanation about direct airplane flights that they say is wrong on a globe earth; they are using this equidistant map, which is a globe map. Or worse, they use a Mercator projection map.
Flat earthers take words out of context to say that the Bible declares a flat earth.
They cite the words “pillars of the earth” to proclaim that the flat earth sit on top of pillars.
“He raiseth up the poor out of the dust, and lifteth up the beggar from the dunghill, to set them among princes, and to make them inherit the throne of glory: for the pillars of the earth are the LORD’S, and he hath set the world upon them.” 1 Samuel 2:8
Read 1 Samuel 2:2-7, 9-10; you see that the word ‘pillars’ is referring to leaders of the earth, not physical pillars that support the flat earth.
Just like the saying that someone is a ‘pillar in the community’, it is declaring they are a strong leader. The context is clearly about Elohim raising seemingly lowly people and making them the leaders of the earth. It is not talking about the design of the physical earth!
Flat earthers say that the ‘circle‘ in Isaiah 40:22 is declaring a flat circle earth.
It is he that sitteth upon the circle of the earth, and the inhabitants thereof are as grasshoppers; that stretcheth out the heavens as a curtain, and spreadeth them out as a tent to dwell in:
Let’s back up to get the context of the verse. Elohim is declaring the glory of His creation.
And to whom would you liken Ěl? And what likeness would you compare to Him? The workman moulds a graven image, and the goldsmith overspreads it with gold, and the silversmith casts silver chains. Isaiah 40:18-19
He is declaring that the works of man are nothing as compared to His creativity and power. Then He points out His Mazzoroth, the twelve signs in the heavenly circle, which have proclaimed His plan of redemption from the beginning.
Did you not know? Have you not heard? Has it not been declared to you from the beginning? Have you not understood from the foundations of the earth? Isaiah 40:21
Do you bring out the constellations (Mazzoroth) in its season? Or do you lead the Bear with its sons. Job 38:32
The CIRCLE in Isaiah 40:22 is the Mazzoroth in the sky above, that has 12 constellations in a circle on the ecliptic, which declare the Gospel. It is like a curtain which covers the earth, and in which the stars dwell.
We see that Elohim tells them to look up to the celestial sphere (circle) of the stars of the Mazzoroth.
Lift up your eyes on high and see. Who has created these? He who is bringing out their host by number, He calls them all by name, by the greatness of His might and the strength of His power – not one is missing. Isaiah 40:26
“He appoints the number of the stars, He gives names to all of them.” Psalm 147:4
So one can clearly see that when Elohim referred to the circle of the Earth, He is referring to the circle of the Mazzoroth which acts as a constant witness to those on earth, about His great power, and about His redemption plan.
The same Hebrew word, chuwg, is used in Job 22:14 to describe the circuit of heaven. “Thick clouds are a covering to him, that he seeth not; and he walketh in the circuit (chuwg) of heaven.”
Stop manipulating the Word of Elohim! Read Biblical Proofs Of The Flat Earth Deception.
One of the most misleading things that proponents of the flat earth say is to ‘use your perspective as proof‘.
The challenge is that we are a small human on a large earth, so our perception is distorted.
We can only see so wide and far, so staring at a horizon that is only a few miles wide, we cannot see the curvature.
Flatearthers posts pictures from airplanes which seem to have a straight horizon, but when you put a line across the photo, you can see the curvature. In this image you can see the line is level with the horizon at the airplane pillar, and that there is a gap on the left and right side.
On this picture the red line is level on the left side, but you can clearly see the gap on the right side.
On this picture the red line is even on the sides, and you can see the curve of the earth in the center.
Flatearthers counter by claiming that airplanes have curved glass that distorts the horizon.
Do you really think that airplanes would have glass in the cockpit that distorts the pilots view?
Does the windshield in your car cause the horizon to curve? No!
Flat-earthers push aside the witness and photos of countless astronomers throughout the years and around the world, who have taken pictures of the planets and distant galaxies.
They proclaim that there are no real planets, and that they are just projections or lights. There are astronomy clubs at many schools and astronomy groups in most major cities, who take pictures of the moon, stars, planets and distant galaxies. There is just no way that all of that is a conspiracy to hide the flat earth theory.
You can buy phone apps that show you where to look in the sky for planets, so that you know where to look with your optical telescope.
You can visit astronomy clubs and they will let you look through their optical telescopes, to see the planets and distance galaxies for yourself. There is simply no excuse for this laziness!
Read Astronomy Proves The Flat Earth Deception.
Flat earthers push aside the witness of people who work in companies that use satellites.
They proclaim that there are no satellites, but that everything is done through cables or ground-based antennas.
- Meteorologists around the world use satellites to show storms like hurricanes.
- Hughes Satellite internet service can’t work with cables or land-based antennas, as the locations that receive the signals are too remote.
- Navstar GPS works in remote areas through satellites.
- Look at a house with the Dish Network, Echostar, DirectTV. What direction is the dish pointed to? The sky!!!
- Look at a remote-location TV news crew, where is their dish pointed to? The sky!
- Sirius radio provides signals to you when you are far away from ground based antennas
- Look at remote military units and military facilities to see where their dishes are pointed to. The sky!
To deny satellites is to deny the existence of a space program covering the US, EU, Russia, China, India, Brazil, employing tens of millions of people and spending tens of billions of dollars a year, putting satellites in orbit, sending probes everywhere, creating the GPS system, satellite TV, etc.
It would mean that all of that is faked, on an ongoing basis, and none of these tens of millions of people has ever exposed the lie. Read Satellites Prove The Flat Earth Deception.
They push aside the many people who have been to Antarctica as a researcher or tourist.
Flat earthers proclaim that the ice ring is protected so that nobody can see the end of the flat earth. But that is ludicrous as people visit every year for research and for tourism.
Read Antarctica Proves The Flat Earth Deception
So why is the flat earth a topic these days?
More and more people on Facebook and YouTube are promoting the flat earth theory, with ridiculous explanations that prove nothing. Many of these people expose other conspiracies that have been foisted upon us; and they expose the truth about the Father and Son’s true names, about the Holy Feast Days, corrupt Bibles, etc.
So I believe that the enemy is getting them to believe in the flat-earth theory, so that others will discount all that they are proclaiming. It’s called a PSYOP, a Psychological Operation.
I think that flat-earthers are going to make everyone so tired of hearing about it, that people will not seek any of the truths that they share. Many of them opening condemn everyone who doesn’t believe it, calling them fools and globeheads.
The story that Christians believed in a flat earth until Columbus’ time, and for some time thereafter, began as part of a fictional story that was elevated to historical fact by late 19th-century Darwinists who used it primarily as a means to ridicule Christians. Sadly that appears to be happening again, as truthers who proclaim the flat earth are being ridiculed.
I hope that this page has helped to open your eyes to the truth, that the earth is a globe.
If you have some insight to prove that what I have shown is not correct, please comment below. If you just want to make statements, without any proof; or if you just want to make accusations against me; then your comment may not be added to the discussion.
David
p.s. My explanations are logical, and are based on what we can see. I don’t offer scientific explanations, because that is not my strength. Sadly, I see flat earthers mocking scientific explanations about the globe earth, but giving really unscientific answers.
Hi,
While the earth is not flat, it isn’t the convex heliocentric model either!
Experiments that fulfill the laws governing a convex earth, can apply just as much to a concave earth.
e.g. light bends, constellations, water curves, same side of the moon always, solstices, eclipses, retrogrades, etc.
Rectiliniator experiment :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V4TvxWV_l-s
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lgkyd4mSOCk&t=3s
I hope this helps!
Hi 🙂 I don’t believe that the earth is heliocentric, rather I believe in the Tychonic geocentric model.
It is funny why people always put fisheye lens camera to make earth curvature. I don’t believe in FLAT EARTH but this is ridiculous
A fisheye lens is an ultra-wide angle lens with an angle of view of around 100 to 180 degrees. So the benefit is that it allows you to see much more.
Hi brother. I’m really bummed you’re so dead set against the flat earth. I really enjoyed your Revelation Timeline Decoded read-through, and I do indeed believe Christ will return to earth very soon, as Revelation is almost finished, and, well, for other reasons.
But your arguments for the globe are quite misled. For example, photos demonstrating a curve is actually a phenomenon that occurs with any camera lens, depending on relative angle, among other things I am sure. Jeranism did a great video where he photographed his marble/quartz countertop, which is arguable flat, and by compressing the image he showed that all cameras can make a flat horizon appear slightly curved.
There has been filmed two suns, two moons, the reflections off of the dome, complete lack of curvature drop over miles and miles, and then there’s the Bible….. earth is a circle, stationary, founded upon pillars, covered by a dome which is surrounded by water… it’s all in there. It even says the sun (and therefore all luminaries) has a circuit. There are over 60 verses about the movement of the sun, none about the movement of the earth. The sun and moon stood still, not the earth. If earth stopped, that would be like slamming on the brakes from 1000 mph to 0.
Anyway, Christ will return and all shall know the truth. It isn’t a “salvation issue.” And yet, I fear it is. The globe actually was invented to accommodate for evolution, old earth, and the big bang. If the globe is a lie, then evolution, the big bang, and old earth all fail immediately. They can’t work if the earth is as the Bible describes it. You’d be surprised to know how many people have come to Christ in repentance because they learned there is a God over this flat earth, once they learned the godless globe was a lie.
Some excellent Christian youtube channels are Potter’s Clay, and Celebrate Truth. Some nonchristian ones are DITRH, Jeranism, and Flat Earth Map / Flat Earth Model.
I hope you reconsider.
Hi Brother 🙂 I’m blessed to know that you enjoyed the Revelation Timeline Decoded studies! We can definitely see Messiah’s return on the horizon! 🙂
Forget about pictures which can be manipulated, just look at the sun, for it rises up from UNDER the horizon at full size, it stays the same size all the way across the sky, and it sets BELOW the horizon at full size. That’s not possible if the earth were flat, for the sun would appear as a small dot ABOVE the horizon in the morning, it would grow dramatically in size as it moves towards us, and it would shrink back to a small dot in the evening; and it would never go BELOW the horizon as there’s nothing to go behind on the flat earth.
As for the verses about the movement of the sun, how is it that you’ve missed that I believe that the earth is geocentric, at the center of the universe?
I agree that Scripture seems to declare that it’s the sun that is moving and the earth is not. Scientific studies have proven that the earth is not moving. Flat-earthers cite those studies, but that lacks credibility as the studies are based on the globe-earth, not the flat earth. I’m writing a book about the supposed 240+ Bible verses that flat-earthers cite, to show how they have been taken out of context, and that they actually prove that the earth is a geocentric globe.
I’ve done my research, and all I see is flat-earthers making up stories which are contrary to the laws of physics. I see people who have no scientific explanations of their own, for how the sun, moon and constellations orbit above the flat earth. CGI models may look nice, but they don’t explain how the heavenly bodies move in precise patterns above the earth. They don’t explain how the sun is constantly changing its speed, as it moves from one Tropic circle to the other, to complete exactly revolution per day.
I hope that you will reconsider, as I believe that the truth that the enemy is hiding is the geocentric globe earth, and they are using the flat-earth theory to get people to dismiss any other explanation other than the heliocentric model.
We will all answer before our righteous Judge. I pray that we all end up on the right side of truth before that day.
Keep learning and growing in The Way!
David
Why would you dedicate a website to defend the globe? Why is there no contact info published on thus site?
Why do people dedicate websites to defend the flat earth? I made the website because Christians are declaring that the Bible says flat earth, to prove them wrong with Scripture and with simple proofs. http://flatearthdeception.com/biblical-proofs-of-the-globe-earth/
Why do you want contact info Jason, so that you can tell me all of the reasons that I’m wrong?
You aren’t the only one blocked by Sheila Zilinski. She blocked me from her Weekend Vigilante Facebook page because I commented that Dean Odle is a liar and she lost credibility with me for having her on the show. How can I trust what she says about the spiritual realm when she espouses nonsense regarding the physical realm.
Guess that’s how she does business. Block/Ban/Censor all who disagree. I hope her show goes away soon.
Yeah, she and Dean Odle teach many false things, about the flat earth and about prophecy fulfillment; and they don’t tolerate anyone with a different perspective. I’m working on a book to expose their false teachings about the supposed flat earth Bible verses. 🙂
Laura – Thank you for your very astute answer. When He returns it will be on the earth that He created as per Genesis 1:1-19 and low and behold He put lights IN the firmament to give light. The sun was created on the fourth day to give light. The earth was here before the sun. How about that. Again, it is a pleasure to hear from you. God bless you.
The geocentric globe earth could have been created on the 1st day, and the sun on the fourth day. How about that!
Sorry David, but you are deceived. May God grant you light. The earth is flat. NASA steals 20 Billion Dollars each year from taxpayers for CGI and lies. There are no satellites, the moon landings were faked, ISS is shot in a movie studio. Many Flat Earth vids and books have proven the truth. Which makes people wonder, are you a NASA employee or being paid by NASA? The Kingdom of God is GROWING, therefore, eventually, more people will see the truth.
Your statements prove nothing Dennis. I’m not deceived by NASA, I know that it’s run by evil people who are misleading the world, but their mission is far bigger than just hiding the supposed flat earth.
I don’t even cite NASA on this website, so it’s ridiculous that you think that I would work for them.
I believe that the earth is geocentric, which is certainly not a NASA position. In fact, I think that one of NASA’s primary roles is to hide that the earth is geocentric.
I’m writing a book to expose the abomination of Bible verses that flat earthers like you, blindly promote. Woe to you, for you steal away from the glory of Elohim, with your domed earth theory!
I’m a Christian but even I and my Christian friends don’t believe the earth is flat.
Thank you for your comment B! How did you learn about the flat earth theory?
>Tychonic geocentric model; which shows how the sun orbits the earth, and the planets orbit the sun.
I don’t see how this idea can be entertained anymore, since the advent of space probes and mars visits etc. I mean – if the orbits were as you say, this would be super obvious by now, since interplanetary interception paths are based on heliocentric motions of all the planets.
Plus the idea of the “combined weight” of the planets counterbalancing the suns presumed orbit around the earth is, umm silly 🙂 Last time i checked, the Sun was about 98% of the “total mass of the solar system”. Why would it stay in orbit around the earth unless you are invoking magic of course.
And what is the geocentric view of the rest of the galaxy / universe rotating around us? Is that also in orbit or just the sun around the earth?
I enjoyed all your flat-earth debunks, and I thank you for the effort you put into them. But your slide into a manifestly incorrect geocentric solar system (and galaxy, I presume?) undermines everything else..
Thank you for sharing your perspective. I’m not really addressing the scientific aspect of the geocentric model, as that’s not my area of expertise.
I understand what you’re saying about the counterbalancing, but I’m confident that our Creator could have designed the universe, so that the weight of the objects in the universe balance out.
When you look at what Scripture says, it points to a geocentric earth, with the sun moving.
Taking into consideration that the enemy controls the major space agencies, I think that it’s possible that they’re giving false information to hide the geocentric earth.
I’m working on a flat earth book, which will provide much more compelling Scriptural evidence of a geocentric earth.
Even if I’m wrong, the main point of this website is to debunk that the earth is flat.
Keep learning and growing in The Way!
David
Although I have great respect for your teachings on Revelations, I must say I completely disagree with your rejection of the ‘plane’ that we live on. There are over 200 verses in the Bible that clearly point to a flat plane. You really have such a great insight on the end times and am grateful for that, but I am afraid that you along with many others are being deceived into thinking that we actually live on a ball flying through ‘infinite space’. Can’t you see this is just another great deception coming from our Enemy? Have you looked into all of NASA’s tricks, lies and CGI? I could go on and on but I will close with this, I had started to ‘fall away’…watching shows like Ancient Aliens and such, believing that ‘we are all One’ and God loves everybody no matter what their sin is and is willing to over look things. Until I learned about the Globe earth deception. It brought me back to God!! Thank you Jesus for showing me this and caring for me enough to pull me back to You! Please realize that I am not the only one that has said this. MANY have come to Christ after realizing that we do live in something that resembles a Terrarium…we DO have a Creator! Praise God!!! This Earth was created for Him and us. So PLEASE keep in mind that there are many, many people who have realized the Truth of a Creator and have been brought to God because of it through realizing that WE ARE THE CENTER OF THE UNIVERSE! God Bless you David!! P.S. No need to respond, NOTHING you can say will ever change my mind on this, I have seen too much evidence pointing to a enclosed, flat plane. Peace and Grace to you always.
Thank you for your comment Laura 🙂 I’m familiar with Nathan Roberts list of 200 verses.
Many of the verses have been taken out of context, some to the point of being ridiculous and heretical.
For example it cites verses which says that all paths are straight, not curved. But it cites verses that are calling us to walk a straight path of obedience, which have nothing to do with a physical path.
It cites five verses about John the Baptist who was called to “Prepare ye the way of the Lord, make his paths straight” which obviously is about John preaching repentance to prepare the way for Messiah.
It’s an abomination to proclaim that those verse are flat earth verses!!!
Some verses point to sun moving and not the earth, but they fit a geocentric globe earth too. Here’s a link to Nathan Robert’s 200 verses that you’re referring to, showing how absurd some of them are.
http://flatearthdeception.com/flat-earther-nathan-roberts-of-flatearthdoctrine-com-debunked/
Pursue truth, not a belief!
David
p.s. I believe that the globe earth is geocentric, and not flying through space; and I think that’s the real hidden truth.
I really like your flat earth analysis but I can no longer use your website because “geocentric” appears in the title. Mercury retrograde debunks geocentric model.
This taints everything else you have accomplished here.
Could you at least remove geocentric language until further study can be done?
The retrograde of Mercury debunks a geocentric earth that has the planets orbiting around the earth, but that’s not what I’m pointing to on this website.
If you read The Hidden Option Of The Geocentric Globe Earth page, you see the explanation about the Tychonic geocentric model; which shows how the sun orbits the earth, and the planets orbit the sun.
Since Mercury orbits the sun, it would appear to move backwards from our perspective.
You can see snapshots of the comparison of the annual cycle. From the earth view, the perspective looks the same on both models.
And you can see the evidence of space probes pointing back to the earth; with the arrays lining up with the north-south pole, the equator and the ecliptic line.
Here’s the link. http://flatearthdeception.com/the-hidden-option-of-the-geocentric-globe-earth/