This website exposes the flat earth deception and proves that the earth is globe shaped.
This page discusses maps which prove that the earth is a globe, not flat.
Question for flat earthers: How do you explain why the continent of Australia is distorted and appears to be 3,525 miles wide on the flat earth map, when we know from actual geodesic measurements that it’s 2,500 miles wide?
This is how the globe earth is rendered as a north-polar azimuthal equidistant projection.
They flare the globe out at the south pole. This is why the continent of Antarctica is radically distorted to look like a white ring.
Flat Earthers cite the Gleason Map as a flat earth map, but Gleason knew that it’s a 2D representation of the globe earth.
Sunlight on the Gleason flat earth map does not work properly.
Two excellent videos that demonstrate clearly why the Geometry of Sun angles make no sense on a Flat Earth but always work perfectly on the Globe.
The continent of Australia appears to be really wide on the north-polar azimuthal projection, because it distorts the southern hemisphere. This proof alone proves that it is not a flat earth map, and that it is just a projection of the globe earth.
The map that flat-earthers use actually represents the globe earth!
It’s a north-polar azimuthal equidistant projection, also called an azimuthal map projection. These maps can be centered from anywhere, but the north pole is the most common reference point.
You can make them on this Azimuthal Map Generator website, you just need to define the center point with longitude and latitude.
This is centered on the North Pole:
It is a projection of a globe earth onto a 2D map, that has straight meridian lines, with distances from the pole represented correctly.
It’s what you would see from the top of the globe earth, with the bottom hemisphere expanded out into the outer circles.
It’s not a proportionally correct map, as it exaggerates the size of countries in the southern hemisphere, as you can see with Australia, which is huge.
Australia is at the 45 degree south line, so on that map it’s twice the normal size.
If the bottom of the globe was water, then the edge of the map would have just been blue.
Since the continent of Antarctica is on the very bottom of the globe, the only way to represent it on a north-polar equidistant projection map is to spread it out around the outer circle, as all of the longitudinal (meridian) lines point down to it.
Here is one that is centered from the South Pole in Antarctica. You can see that the continents that are north of the equator are disproportionate. Note that Australia is correctly represented as it is close to Antarctica.
Here is one that is centered around the middle of the U.S., from Denver. Once again, the continents that are on the opposite side of the globe from the U.S. are disproportionately spread out in the outer circle.
Now look back at the above projection maps that are based from the South Pole and America. Because there is no land mass directly opposite of the center point, there is no land ring on the outside of the circle. It is just ocean.
Now let’s look at the north-pole equidistant map again. As I previously noted, the white land mass that encircles the map represents the continent of Antarctica, which is distorted by the map being flared out.
Every meridian line that originates from the North Pole runs down to the South Pole.
So on the north-polar azimuthal equidistant projection below, the red circle represents the South Pole, as all of the meridian lines connect from the North Pole to the South Pole.
All of the meridian lines point down to the South Pole, which on this map is the red dot.
If you look at the land mass that encircles the azimuthal equidistant map projection, it is not uniform. The land mass is thicker on the right side. And there are some areas that are recessed.
That circular land mass is the continent of Antarctica spread out wide, and the .
Now look at this image that keeps the land mass around the outside edge, and has the continent of Antarctic in the middle, as that is what is on the bottom of the globe. The land mass is exaggerated, as the outside ring representation is exaggerated. The continent is inverted to match the inverted outer circle, as the equidistant view is from the top down.
Look at the left side of the continent, which is small compared to the right side. That matches the thin land mass of the left, compared to the right.
Now look at the peninsula on the left lower side at 240 degrees. It matches the peninsula on Antarctica.
The top of the circle is very thin and has a recess.
That matches the curvature of the top of Antarctica.
On the bottom right at 110 degrees, there is a small indentation.
That matches the bay on the southeast part of Antarctica.
Let’s take it one step further. The bottom left red line shows that the meridian lines runs from the bay of Antarctica through South America. The bottom left red lines shows that the meridian line runs from the small bay runs through Asia. The top red line shows that the meridian line runs from the other large bay in between North America and Russia.
The azimuthal equidistant map projection is only a tool, to help determine distances and flight maps on a globe earth.
Every time a flat-earther posts an explanation about direct airplane flights that they say is wrong on a globe earth; they are using this equidistant map, which is a globe map.
This Air Map Of The World from 1945 tells the truth, that the north-polar azimuthal equidistant projection represents a globe.
Notice that it doesn’t have an ice wall! That is because they didn’t include the continent of Antarctica, because it is so greatly distorted.
Here is the call out box on the top right:
It says “Since it is impossible to spread the surface of a globe on a flat surface without distortion, all maps are distorted in some respects. In this map the distortion occurs in the east and west distances. This distortion increases gradually from the North Pole to the Equator, and then quite rapidly to the outer limits. The distortion of the Antarctic areas would be so great that these are not shown.”
So they didn’t even include the supposed ‘ice wall’, because it’s not an ice wall; it’s the continent of Antarctica, which is greatly distorted by the algorithm used to make the projection map. Since Antarctica is opposite of the North Pole on the globe earth, the only way for the program to render it was to stretch it out as a circle. The outer circle is the South Pole. The continent has been inverted.
Flat earthers cite the Gleason’s New Standard Map Of The World as a flat earth map.
Alex Gleason wrote a book called “Is The Bible From Heaven – Is The Earth A Globe?’, in which he explains his flat earth theory.
He applied for a patent for his map projection, which describes the map’s use as a time calculator for students. Here is what the patent image looks like, which has two hands on it, which spin around the north pole.
But the most important passage from his patent description is this:
“The map is not so extorted (distorted) as to lose the relative latitude and longitude of any places on the land or sea, but retains all latitudes and longitudes of places agreeing with other recognized authors; and as the proper relations of continents and countries all stand in their relative position to each other, they are thus impressed upon the mind of the student.”
Note: the words extorted and extorsion obviously mean distorted and distortion, as that makes sense when speaking about latitude and longitude on a projection map.
Alex Gleason is saying that the map projection has distortions; because is was derived from some other shape. That is what a north-polar azimuthal projection is, a projection of the 3D globe onto a 2D graphic.
“The extorsion (distortion) of the map from that of a globe consists, mainly in the straightening out of the meridian lines allowing each to retain their original value from Greenwich, the equator to the two poles.”
Alex Gleason proclaimed that it is a projection of a globe, which maintains the integrity of the meridian lines.
And note his phrasing “the equator to the two poles.” A flat Earth does not have two poles.
They cite that the U.N. mocks us by using a flat earth map.
Once again, it is simply a equidistant map, which represents the globe earth in a 2D format. How else would they, or anyone, represent the globe to show all of the continents in a 2D format?
Goofy flat earth explanations about Astronomy:
Here is their flawed explanation of the path of the International Space Station. There is no integrity with flat earth explanations like this. The map on the top is obviously not a good representation of a globe, as it’s a flat map with the countries side by side. The bottom image is a good representation of a globe, as it is a north-polar azimuthal equidistant projection map of the globe earth.
So they misrepresented the globe map, and then used a real globe map as supposed proof of the flat earth. Ya’ll need to wake up! The north-polar azimuthal equidistant projection map represents the globe earth. It is not a flat-earth map. By using that map you are proving the globe earth. Such irony!!!
First of all, the image they use of the globe positions the two continents side by side, but they are on opposite sides of the globe, so it is a misrepresentation, which distorts the flight path going across the ocean. Of course, flight paths stay over land as much as possible for obvious reasons.
Then they use an equidistant map as their supposed flat earth map, to show the direct flight route. The anazimuthal equidistant map projection which shows distances and directions accurately from the center point. In this case, it shows the optimal flight path from England to Texas, which is direct and stays over land as much as possible.
Here is the same flight path on a globe, which is the same as on the supposed flat earth map. You can use this echalk utility to see the direct flight path on the globe, which will match the equidistant map which the flat-earthers mistakenly use.
Here’s another example. Again the image on the left is a bad representation of a globe, and the image on the right is a globe equidistant projection map.
This all gets proved out with a picture of the flight on the globe earth
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Flat earth believers make memes about flight paths using an equidistant map for their explanation. The irony is that is exactly what an equidistant map is for, as it represents the globe in 2D, to map out direct flights.
Here is a list of the types of map projections, of the globe earth.
So how does the description of the Messiah’s return “in the clouds with ALL flesh seeing Him” take place on a sphere? So people on the opposite side of the sphere don’t get to see him? This scripture on makes sense on a plane Earth with a dome. Also what are the windows of heaven and floodgates of heaven mentioned in the Bible? Allegory? Or proof of a dome covered Earth?
How does it take place on the flat earth? Can everyone see the sun when it’s over Jerusalem? No, it’s dark on the other side of the flat earth. So when Messiah returns, would everyone on the flat earth be able to see Him? No.
The windows and floodgates of heaven are describing the moisture which is collected there, as part of the earthly cycle of evaporation and precipitation. Do you really think that a dome has actual windows and floodgates that let water in?
Hi,
I have a question, and a comment.
First, it makes me sad that virtually every conversation I see regarding FE vs globular earth include name calling/insults. There is no reason to treat others with disrespecte simply because we hold different beliefs.
My question is, David, can you share the flight pattern info for some southern hemisphere flights, so I can better understand the effect of the distortion factor farther from center. Thanks.
Hi Rodeovet, Yeah, some people don’t seem capable of having rational discussions about the shape of the earth.
The Flights Prove The Flat Earth Deception page has some flight pattern examples of southern hemisphere flights http://flatearthdeception.com/flights-prove-the-flat-earth-deception/
Nice job trying to explain why the earth is a globe. It’s an emotional thing though, so I don’t think logic is the way to go. Jesus needs to come down upon this globe and set them straight 🙂
Your comment says a lot Kevin, for most flat earthers are basing their views on their emotions, not logic. There are so many deceptions in this world, that they’ve been led to believe that this is the biggest one. I understand, almost everything is fake. We live in The Matrix.
As for me, I’m a logical person, so that’s why my explanations are simple, logical proofs that we can see for ourselves.
When Messiah returns, people are going to be shocked by the real deceptions; such as the fulfillment of prophecy, who is the antichrist and who is the false prophet. http://revelationtimelinedecoded.com/bible-prophecy-made-easy/
This is a circular argument, no pun intended, flat maps came first and were projected onto a globe shape. Study history and the scientific method to form a valid argument.
Flat maps came first? Saying that 2D maps came before globes, does not prove anything.
Every map is a 2D representation of the 3D earth. Every map distorts the land masses in some way, such as the north-polar azimuthal projection, which distorts the land masses which are furthest from the center point; which is why Australia appears to be so wide.
This page has proved being a reasonable doubt that the supposed flat earth map is a north polar azimuthal projection of the globe earth.
This page proves that the ice ring is the massively distorted projection of the continent of Antarctica.
You can create a south-polar azimuthal equidistant projection, and the earth looks totally different, and there is no ice ring. You can create a azimuthal equidistant projection centered on Denver, Colorado; and there’s no ice ring, as there’s no land mass opposite of Denver on the globe earth.
You have all of the proof that you need. No history or scientific method is needed, thanks.
Why do you say that the “globe” is used to explain “FE”?
I said that they are using a globe map to supposedly prove that the Earth is flat. It’s a north polar azimuthal projection of the globe Earth. Any 2D projection of a 3D globe earth is going to cause distortion. In the case of the azimuthal projection, it distorts the land masses that are far away from the center point; which is why Australia looks twice as wide as it really is; and why the continent of Antarctica is rendered as a white circle around the map.
Earth is flat in always and you know it and you’re never going to use maps to manipulate this geodetic land surveying would be the science of measuring Earth itself why don’t you get with the program and start measuring Earth and if you can’t do that and why don’t you look to the ones who do until then you’re just going to be another idiot that can’t grasp what’s going on here and you’re obviously lost so lost. You can’t point to anything but the ground when dealing with the shape of the ground so why are you pointing to everything else get with the program dude grow up
Obviously I don’t know that the earth is flat, thus this website. People have been measuring the earth through geodesic measurements for many years, and they find arc angles, which proves that the earth is curved. http://flatearthdeception.com/geodesy-proof-of-the-flat-earth-deception/
The ironic part is that flat earthers are using a globe earth map as their model. It’s a north-polar azimuthal equidistant projection, also called an azimuthal map projection. These maps can be centered from anywhere, but the north pole is the most common reference point.
Based on the wording of your comment, you must still be in Junior High School, so you’re the one who needs to grow up.
I tried to google earth (in the latest earth apps by google where you can download from playstore or applestore )the antartica continent to be exact the South Pole..and my founding is the attached link https://earth.google.com/web/@-89.85701348,-43.14807677,2887.72457726a,180172.73963537d,35y,13.5678879h,0t,0r
You found the south pole of the earth, on the continent of Antarctica! Congratulations!
yet you have zero proof.
Zero proof? Really? Flat earthers don’t have a real map. They don’t have pictures of the edge of the ice wall or dome. They can’t explain why objects are pulled downward, except to cite mass and density. They can’t explain how the moon illuminates itself or creates the changing phases. They can’t explain how planets travel on the ecliptic circle. They can’t explain why the sun sets at full size, below the horizon; instead of transitioning into a small dot and then disappearing, above the horizon line, as it would if the earth were flat. I could keep going, but somehow, given your trite comment, I don’t think it will help.
A nice attempt to debunk the flat earth, but your failure is that your plan was to debunk, not to seek evidence of a flat plane….. however, a Flat Earther named D. Marble (on youtube) proved with a very simple but effective experiment, that Earth IS 100 % flat: HOW?
At around 1pm his time in TACOMA WASHINGTON USA, with afternoon sun shining clearly above him in a clear blue sky, he did a video call to a guy in Bradford, West Yorkshire ENGLAND and it was around 9pm there, sunset clearly visible. Then minutes later he video called a guy in Biloela, Central Queensland, AUSTRALIA and the time was around 6am with sunrise clearly visible. SO I ASK YOU:
How the “F” do you see the sun in Washington USA, ENGLAND, ….AND in AUSTRALIA … if the earth is a globe?? Debunk that…. you cant. End of debate.
I had people around me, who know a lot of the Jesuit’s deceptions, tell me that the earth is flat. So I watched videos and read explanations, and this website is what I found. You can disagree with my perspective, but don’t come on my website and proclaim that I am lying. I just want the truth, and I’ve clearly said that I’m open to the geocentric position of the earth.
As for D. Marble’s example, I love how you say “around 9pm” in England, and “around 6am” in Australia. Why not give precise times, to back up the supposed facts?
You can go to timeanddate.com, which is based on the globe earth, and see that 1:05 is solar noon in Tacoma (for 8/15, the day before he published the video).
Civil twilight in Bradford England, which would mean that the sunset would be visible, happened at 9:15pm; so that lines up. Not sure why there is a problem.
Sunrise in Biloela is at 6:24am, so that lines up. So there is no discrepancy about the overhead sun, sunset and sunrise; in those places; at the same time.
If you look at a supposed flat earth map, it’s difficult to see how that would happen, as the rays of the supposed close sun do not spread to the other side of the flat earth. Here’s a link to an image that shows where the sun is, and the different cities mentioned. http://flatearthdeception.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/marble-sun-fe.jpg
Given that tomorrow is the fall equinox, please explain to me how the sun rises due East, @ 90 degrees; and sets due West, @ 270 degrees; in Tacoma, in Bradford and in Biloela. Given that the sun is orbiting the equator, that’s simply not possible on the flat earth model. That’s a flat earth fail!
Haha, D Marble, the guy who believes that planes can fly through the Sun unharmed 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Most of our understanding of what we humans have deemed “the universe”, is still largely misunderstood, we take the empirical evidence of science and combine it with theoretical suppositions of physics and conflate it into a semi plausible explanation of how thing work based on how they might appear to the casual observer in order to arrive at a convenient answer, because that is in our nature, we humans have an incessant need to quantify everything right down to our very existence, to with, the word “inexplicable” is scientific heresy and opposing viewpoints are excoriated into obscurity, but I digress. It really does all boil down to one thing, and it’s this, “if” you believe that the Earth is what you say it is, then prove it ,don’t just regurgitate the theories and writings of others. Therein lies your task, quantify the dynamics of “Gravity” through experimental physics, not theoretically and you’ll have made your point, in other words, “don’t tell me, show me”, prove it…
Seriously Sergio? Where is the empirical evidence for how the moon illuminates itself? Where is the evidence for how the sun and moon revolve above the flat earth? What forces cause them to move from the Tropic of Capricorn to the Tropic of Cancer? Where is the empirical evidence for why objects are pulled downward on the flat earth?
There is plenty of provable, observable evidence on this website; to prove that the Earth is not flat. And that’s the point. Most people can’t proof the scientific theories themselves, but we certainly can see how the moon is illuminated by the sun. We can see how the sun and moon set at full size below the horizon line; instead of just moving away and disappearing as a small dot, above the horizon line like it would be if the earth were flat.
“don’t tell me, show me”, prove it…