Category: Nathan Roberts

Flat Earther Nathan Roberts Deletes Facebook Comments From Travis

This website exposes the flat earth deception and proves that the earth is globe shaped.

Nathan Roberts made a post in the Official Flat Earth & Globe Earth Biblical Discussion Facebook group, titled “** CALLING OUT a False Biblical Teaching “user account” named “David Nikao” and PUBLICLY rebuking it **

Travis Chauvette countered Nathan with following comment and three images which prove that telescopes which are in different countries around the earth that are all pointing to the north star; show that on the flat earth model, the star is at different heights; proving that the flat earth model does not work.

Travis Chauvette said:

“You’re a false prophet my man. You are using deception and misinterpretation of scripture to get people to follow you. You may think the bible somehow says the Earth is flat, but it doesn’t. Not one time does the bible utter these four words “the Earth is Flat” not once man. You are a sad, confused, weak person. You obviously had something happen to you as a child that scarred you deeply, and this is your way of dealing with it. Makes you feel better to have other confused, out of place, outcasts follow you. The bible does not say the Earth is flat, but it does talk about people like you. Here is a good one that is talking about you specifically and your followers.

2 Timothy 4:3-4 For the time will come when people will not put up with sound doctrine. Instead, to suit their own desires, they will gather around them a great number of teachers to say what their itching ears want to hear. They will turn their ears away from the truth and turn aside to myths.

Here is another good one The word distort used in this verse is the best description of how you use scripture.

2 Peter 3:14-18 So then, dear friends, since you are looking forward to this, make every effort to be found spotless, blameless and at peace with him. Bear in mind that our Lord’s patience means salvation, just as our dear brother Paul also wrote you with the wisdom that God gave him. He writes the same way in all his letters, speaking in them of these matters. His letters contain some things that are hard to understand, which ignorant and unstable people distort, as they do the other Scriptures, to their own destruction. Therefore, dear friends, since you have been forewarned, be on your guard so that you may not be carried away by the error of the lawless and fall from your secure position.  But grow in the grace and knowledge of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. To him be glory both now and forever! Amen.

Verse 16 is talking about you man. You are an unstable person, distorting scripture to deceive weak minded people. You are pathetic. You will see this prank of flat earth come to an end soon. This is just a fad.

Travis Chauvette continued:

Here is actual proof the earth ks a sphere. By using a model with 4 telescopes they point to 4 pole stars from different directions. On a ball they all point up. So tell me Mr Roberts how can you distort scripture to say this is wrong.

I couldn’t copy the image from Facebook, as Nathan deleted it.  Here’s the preview that I saw in email, which shows the different telescope locations pointing to the Pole Star.

It’s ironic that Nathan Roberts thinks that it’s okay to make posts about me, David Nikao, calling me a false teacher, a deceiver, and even a ‘bot’, as if my posts are automated; but it’s not okay for others to oppose him, and provide evidence that the earth is not flat.

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Flat Earthers Kan Ev Art And Nathan Roberts Discussion About The Sun Of Righteousness

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In the Official Flat Earth & Globe Discussion facebook group, which Nathan Roberts is the admin; my name came up when someone posted my Biblical Proofs Of The Globe Earth study, to rebut Nathan.

Nathan proceeded to say that I am a shill, saying “He is nothing more than a user account who published a website that twists God’s Word in favor of man-made philosophies and delusions. Yeah…it’s (“David Nikao”) just a “user account”…no evidence of a real person behind it.”

The person asked, “Are you implying he’s a bot?”

Nathan replied with “I’m implying there’s no evidence otherwise. I wish he’d show his face. Right now he hides behind his user account and spews lies and deception!”

Then Kan Ev Art chimed to say “This David guy is actually a new Age gnostic fool – anyone who refers to Yashua/Jesus as the Sun is an Antichrist. The funniest thing was: “…not every line is straight.” Lol”

Nathan Roberts asked: “Kan Ev Do you have articles or screenshots of David’s statements that prove his gnostic beliefs? Please share with me.”

Kan Ev Art said: Nathan it’s in plain sight. Here are a few screen shots that prove he’s referring to Jesus as the Sun and portrays the Bible not as literal story but as the story of the stars. And we all know very well: “For many deceivers are entered into the world, who confess not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh. This is a deceiver and an antichrist.” 2 John 1:7 KJV

And Kan posted this images as proof of my supposed gnostic beliefs:

Kan Ev Art and Nathan Robert Facebook Discussion 1

Kan Ev Art and Nathan Robert Facebook Discussion 2

Kan Ev Art and Nathan Robert Facebook Discussion 3

He obviously does not understand the context of the verse that he is citing. The sun in prophecy is pointing to the leader, as in the Roman Emperor.

Malachi 4:2 proclaims that ‘The Sun of Righteousness’ is Messiah.  There’s nothing gnostic about that statement.  Messiah is our righteous leader, He is our sun.

“But unto you that fear my name shall the Sun of righteousness arise with healing in his wings; and ye shall go forth, and grow up as calves of the stall.”

Here’s Bible commentaries from esteemed theologians who explain just that:

Adam Clarke’s Commentary on the Bible on Malachi 4:2

You that fear my name – The persons mentioned in the sixteenth verse of the preceding chapter, ye that look for redemption through the Messiah.

The Sun of righteousness – The Lord Jesus, the promised Messiah; the Hope of Israel.

Geneva Bible Footnotes -Malachi 4:2

But unto you that fear my name shall the bSun of righteousness arise with healing in his wings; and ye shall go cforth, and grow up as calves of the stall.

b. Meaning, Christ, who with his wings or beams of his grace would enlighten and comfort his Church; Eph 5:14. And he is called the “Sun of righteousness”, because in himself he has all perfection, and also the justice of the Father dwells in him: by which he regenerates us to righteousness, cleanses us from the filth of this world, and reforms us to the image of God.

Matthew Poole’s Commentary on the Holy Bible Malachi 4:2

You that fear my name; so are they described to us who were written in the book of remembrance, Malachi 3:16; who loved the law of their God, and kept it; who believed his promises, and rejoiced in expectation of the good promised; who believed his threats and trembled at them, that they might rest in the day of trouble, as Habakkuk 3:16; who walked humbly with their God.

The Sun; Christ, who is the day.spring from on high, Lu 1:78: or, as most elegantly described Isaiah 60:1-3, who is very fitly compared to the sun; Fountain of light and vital heat to his church, he enlightens and enlivens every one John 1:4,9.

The point is that just like the Sun of Righteousness is pointing to Messiah, who is righteous; the ‘sun’ of prophecy is pointing to a leader; so it is not pointing to the actual dimming of the sun, which Nathan Roberts implied in his supposed flat earth Bible verse list.

Case in point is the 4th Trumpet of Revelation, which happened after the decline of the Roman Empire due to the seal judgments; and the previous armies attacking the Roman Empire due to the previous three trumpet judgments.

4th Trumpet – The Sun, Moon and Stars symbolizes leadership structure. Here it represents God using Odoacer and the Heruli, a branch of the Goths, to cause the downfall of Roman leadership when Romulus Augustalus, the last Roman Emperor (the Sun) of the West was captured in 476 A.D. The hierarchy of Roman leaders (moon and stars) would have lost their power too.

Here’s a video that explains the sun of the 4th Trumpet:

So we can see that flat earther Kan Ev Art has no clue what he is talking about in regard to the Sun of Righteousness, and the prophecy usage of the word ‘sun’.

If you want to study prophecy fulfillment, this website, written by me, David Nikao, not a ‘bot’ as Nathan Roberts implies; here’s a link to my Revelation Timeline Decoded website.

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Flat Earther Nathan Roberts Rebukes David Nikao About His Bible Teaching

This website exposes the flat earth deception and proves that the earth is globe shaped.

On 02/13/18 Nathan Roberts made the following post in the Facebook Official Flat Earth & Globe Earth Biblical Discussion group. My comments are in red.

** CALLING OUT a False Biblical Teaching “user account” named “David Nikao” and PUBLICLY rebuking it **

Here’s my Biblical Proofs Of The Globe Earth page where I show you all 200 verses that Nathan cites as proclaiming that the Earth is flat, and proves that none of them declare such a thing. 

The “user account” named “David Nikoa” publishes false teaching on website www.FlatEarthDeception.com.

It’s Nikao, not Nikoa!

I love that he’s giving flat earthers my website, because they can review it and maybe see the truth. 🙂

I say “user account” because there is no evidence of his personal identity…just some ghost-writer name associated to a user account.

Just because I don’t voluntarily give away personal information and post selfies to Facebook, for the NSA and all of the other evil entities that collect data on people; does not mean that I’m not a real person.

The irony of this is that Nathan used to call himself by the name of Samuel Rowbotham on Facebook.

Samuel Rowbotham is Nathan Roberts

Obviously he was ghost-writing, as Samuel is not alive anymore.   

The “user account” twists God’s Word in favor of man-made philosophies and delusions.

I point out the proper context of Scripture, which may be pointing to a geocentric earth, but not a flat earth with a glass dome.  Read Biblical Proofs Of The Globe Earth

The sad irony is that it is Nathan Roberts and other flat earthers who twist Scripture out of its proper context.  

I have written a couple articles to expose this “user account’s” published false doctrine (Heliocentric Big-Bang Universe model heresy):

He thinks that he is exposing me based on his flat earth theology. 

The funny part is that he never acknowledges that I declare that the Earth may be geocentric, and that I believe that some NASA missions have been faked.  

1st Note on FB:
https://www.facebook.com/notes/the-doctrine-of-the-shape-of-the-earth/perspective-does-in-fact-debunk-globe-earth-david-nikoa/330969900644158/

2nd Note on FB:
https://www.facebook.com/notes/the-doctrine-of-the-shape-of-the-earth/debunking-david-nikao-biblical-flat-earth-denier/312835345790947/

K, that’s all. Earth is still stationary and FLAT b/c God’s Word is ALWAYS faithful and true. (Rev. 19:11)

One of Nathan Robert’s articles starts with “A loved one who is investigating a Biblical perspective of Flat Earth stumbled upon David Nikao’s website called flatearthdeception.com”

The loved one is his wife, who does not believe that the earth is flat.  Here’s her comment about his article:

Jennifer Roberts, wife of Nathan Roberts, says that he's a false teacher

I’m not really sure what Nathan Roberts thought that he was accomplishing by making this post. He just dislikes me because I show proof that the earth is not flat.  Sad story bro!  Seek truth, not to defend a belief!

The irony is that after watching the documentary movie The Principle, and after reading more articles about the universe; I believe that there is a grand conspiracy, and that the earth is geocentric.  I will post a page about that on this website soon.

Even more ironic is that it is NASA probes which are providing the information from the universe, to show that earth is at the center.  It’s ironic because flat earthers dismiss anything from NASA.

The information that is coming from the NASA proves what Nathan Roberts wants, that the earth is geocentric.

But the information also proves that the earth is a globe, and not flat. 

I’m seeking truth, are you Nathan?   

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Nathan Roberts Deleted Proof That The Horizon Does Not Rise To Your Eyes

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On 02-13-18, Nathan Roberts tagged me on a post on the Facebook group: The Real Flat Earth vs Globe Earth; which pretends to be an open discussion group to debate whether the earth is flat or a globe; but it is really a flat earth group that pushes their beliefs on others, and is incapable of having a rational discussions.

Larry Emery had commented with the following picture, noting that the horizon does not rise up to the eyes.  This proves that the horizontal line, on which the Globe Earth Curvature Formula is based; is not the same thing as the horizon line.

Larry Emery horizon line does not rise up to the eyes

We can see that in this image.

Let's apply this to a picture to see the difference between the level line and the horizon line.

Nathan Roberts responded to Larry’s comment with derision, proclaiming that he was deceiving people with his photo. Of course that is absurd because the photo was taken directly behind the two water levels.

Nathan Roberts tagged me on a post on the Facebook group: The Real Flat Earth vs Globe Earth

Then Nathan Roberts deleted Larry Emery’s image and explanation.

Nathan Roberts has no integrity.  Instead of letting people in the group look at Larry’s image and decide for themselves, he deletes things that counters his flat earth explanations.

Larry provided a great idea with the water level device, to prove that the horizon line and the horizontal line are not the same thing.  I may build one and take pictures.

I also use the iPhone Theodolite app to prove it out.

David

Flat Earther Nathan Roberts Also Uses The Name Samuel Rowbotham

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Nathan Roberts wrote a flat earth book called, “The Doctrine of the Shape of the Earth: A Comprehensive Biblical Perspective”; he has a YouTube channel named YourCurvelessEarth; and a website called FlatEarthDoctrine.com.

I find it interesting that Nathan Roberts uses the profile name Samuel Rowbotham on Facebook.

Samuel Rowbotham is Nathan Roberts

He uses the Facebook page called ‘The Doctrine of the Shape of the Earth’, and the only team member is Samuel Rowbotham. Why would it not include Nathan Roberts, the author of the book?

On his Facebook page, Samuel Rowbotham lists his birthday as September 1, 1980; and proclaims “I am the author of “Zetetic Astronomy: Earth Not a Globe.”

Zetetic Astronomy, Earth Is Not A Globe!: An Experimental Inquiry Into The True Figure Of The Earth: Proving It A Plane, Without Axial Or Orbital Motion; And The Only Material World In The Universe! Well, that’s obviously not true, because that book was first published in 1865.

It was written by Samuel Birley Rowbotham, who obviously was not born in 1980.

The complete title is ‘Zetetic Astronomy, Earth Is Not A Globe!: An Experimental Inquiry Into The True Figure Of The Earth: Proving It A Plane, Without Axial Or Orbital Motion; And The Only Material World In The Universe!’

Read my Rebuttal Of Nathan Roberts, Author Of The Doctrine Of The Shape Of The Earth