Nathan Roberts of FlatEarthDoctrine posted a video titled ‘Pat Steere is MIA on FLAT EARTH?’
The video is from Mark Sargent and it’s about Pat Steere’s Facebook, YouTube and Twitter accounts being deactivated.
Based on the end of the video, they think that she is a witch. It ended with “1 agent down, many more to go.”
There sure is a lot of infighting in the flat earth cult. Nathan Roberts calls out Rob Skiba for supposedly preaching false doctrine. Nathan attacks people like Mark Sargent because they’re not Christian. And here they are calling people a witch.
Nathan Roberts of FlatEarthDoctrine posted a video titled ‘Man Sued for $15,000 over Flat Earth, and wins!”
Apparently Zen Garcia offered $15,000 to anyone who would offer two proofs that the earth is curved, and William Menke Thompson took him to court to collect, on Barrow County Georgia Case 2019-MV-1104.
Nathan says that the court ruled in favor that there is no discernible curvature over the earth.
They ruled that the plaintiff did not present sufficient evidence that there is curvature. There’s a world of difference between the two! Nathan skews everything as a proof that the earth is flat.
It’s like the O.J. Simpson case, where he was not found guilty of murdering his wife, but that doesn’t mean that he’s innocent.
Look at the content of William Menke Thompson’s two proof videos and you can see why he lost the case:
Nathan Roberts of FlatEarthDoctrine posted a video called ‘Dobby, from Harry Potter, does Chicken Dance in Driveway’.
It’s pretty comical hearing flat-earther Nathan Roberts proclaim that this little person must be a demon, because there can’t be aliens on a domed flat earth.
Nathan points to the windows of the firmament, which he says is a glass dome, so why couldn’t aliens enter the flat earth via the windows? Inquiring minds want to know? 😛
It seems to be a young skinny person walking funny to make a weird video. The little being obviously just came out of the house as we can see the shadow of the door closing, so these people obviously know who it is. If it was legit, then why would the video end suddenly, instead of showing what the little being did next?
I guess if you’re gullible enough to believe that the earth is flat, you’ll believe that this video is legit. 😛
Nathan Roberts of FlatEarthDoctrine posted a video called ‘Globular Problem, proves FLAT EARTH.’
Nathan asked, “Why it is that the horizon always raised to eye level?” He says that “if we were on a ball looking out at this height, I should have to look downward in order to see the horizon.”
This guy is unbelievable! If he was looking straight out, he would be looking at the sky above the horizon line. But when we look out a few miles, especially over water where the terrain is plain, our eyes are drawn down slightly to the horizon line.
Look at his eyes. What’s behind them? The sky? So we’re looking out at eye-level, and we have to look down slightly to see the horizon line. Amazing! 😛
It’s not the the horizon line is rising up, it’s that we’re looking down slightly. Here’s Nathan on the balcony of his 13th floor room. Look at his eyes. Now look behind them and you see the sky and you have to look down slightly to see the horizon line.
It’s the very opposite of what Nathan says. The reason that the horizon seems to rise up, is that the earth is curved. If the earth was flat, the horizon line would be much lower. Here’s Nathan pointing straight out with his hand and it’s pointing to the sky.
On his YouTube video page I commented with: Buy the Theodolite app for your phone and you’ll see that the horizon line is not at eye level. Then you’ll realize that instead of looking straight out, you’re eyes are drawn down slightly to the horizon line.
Nathan Roberts replied with “You are very willfully ignorant.” That’s funny, because I suggested a tool that can help him prove that the the horizon line indeed does rise up to meet our eyes. Why would he not want to do that?
Of course I know that if he got the Theodolite app, that he would see that he’s wrong. And maybe his biased mind won’t let him get the app, because he’s afraid that it will prove that he’s wrong. 🙂
Nathan Roberts of FlatEarthDoctrine posted a video about the Michelson-Morley Experiment being discussed on the radio; implying that they prove that the earth is flat.
The hypocrisy of Nathan citing that experiment is that it’s based on the globe earth, not a flat earth! Do you see how he operates? He cites an experiment to proclaim that it points to a still earth, to promote his flat earth beliefs; but he neglects to tell you that it’s based on scientific experiments of the globe earth. That’s intellectual dishonesty!
The experiment was setup to prove that the earth was heliocentric, not geocentric; but it did the opposite. It found that the Earth was standing still in space, which provided astounding and devastating evidence to destroy the Copernican Principle. Albert Michelson said, “This conclusion directly contradicts the explanation… which presupposes that the Earth moves.”
Austrian-born physicist and recipient of the 1945 Nobel Prize for Physics, Wolfgang Pauli, said in regard to the 1887 Michelson-Morley experiment and subsequent experiments: “The failure of the many attempts to measure terrestrially any effects of the earth’s motion…”
Science historian and physicist John D. Bernal stated: “The Michelson-Morley experiment was the greatest negative result in the history of science.” In other words, they were expecting it to prove that the Earth was moving in space, but they proved the very opposite.
In a book by Lincoln Barnett called The Universe And Dr. Einstein; which Albert Einstein endorsed by writing the foreword, it says: “The experiment was tried again by Morley and by others, with the same conclusion: the apparent velocity of the Earth through the ether was zero.”
Nathan Roberts and flat earthers who cite the Michelson-Morley Experiment and other scientific experiments which show that the earth is not moving, are either very ignorant or they are purposely misleading you.
Those studies prove that the globe earth is not moving, pointing to the geocentric globe earth model, which is what the enemy is hiding with it’s deception about the heliocentric globe earth and the flat earth.
Nathan Roberts of FlatEarthDoctrine posted a video called “Moon debunks Globe.”
In the video he says that there’s a full moon, but he live-streamed the video on 05/16/19, and the full moon is not until 05/18/19. Fail!
Nathan Roberts says that this proves that the earth is flat and that the sun doesn’t illuminate the moon.
The irony is that it’s really easy to see how the sun illuminates the moon:
The waxing crescent moon appears shortly after sunset. Then every evening at sunset, the moon is 1/14th further east in the sky, and it’s 1/14th more illuminated.
7 days after the crescent moon, the moon is overhead and half of it is illuminated. 14 days after the crescent moon, the full moon is rising in the east at sunset. The direct relationship is obvious.
Nathan Roberts cites Messiah’s Olivet Discourse in Matthew 24, which says that the moon shall not give her light.
First of all, Messiah was not proclaiming that the moon not giving her light was an everyday occurrence, so it doesn’t prove that the moon provides its own light.
Second of all, Messiah was using the symbolism of the sun and moon to point to the time in 70 A.D., when the Roman army desolated the temple, Jerusalem and the Jews, causing 1.1 million Jews to die in and around Jerusalem from famine, pestilence, infighting, suicide, crucifixion and by the Roman sword. The Jewish High Priest (sun), the Sanhedrin (the moon) and the priests (the stars), were either killed or taken captive and sold as slaves. So indeed, the sun, moon and stars were darkened.
So Messiah wasn’t even talking about the actual moon, which invalidates Nathan’s statement.
Nathan Roberts says that a laser thermometer proves that the sun doesn’t illuminate the moon.
He’s assuming that the moon reflects the heat spectrum of the sun, so his reasoning is that places where moonlight hits should be warmer than places that are out of the moonlight.
But that’s ignorant, as the moon reflects the light wavelengths of the sun, but not the infrared radiation which causes heat.
In the video Nathan Roberts said that we always see the same side of the moon.
Wow! That is a proof that the earth is a globe, not flat! How does Nathan not understand that?
Nathan Roberts says that he can zoom in with his Nikon P1000 and see the details of the moon.
Then he should be able to see the shadows in the craters of the moon, which prove that it’s being illuminated by an external light source.
He should be able to see that the craters on the edge of the moon, which are oval-shaped, proving that the moon is a globe.
He should be able to see that the moon stays the same size all the way across the sky, and that it rises from below the horizon, and sets below the horizon; all of which proves that the earth is a globe.
Nathan Roberts’ mindset is that everything proves that the earth is flat, so he can’t see clearly. How people blindly believe his explanation, I have no idea.
Not only is he wrong about the moon, but the 240 Bible verses that Nathan cites to proclaim that the “Bible says Flat Earth!,” are taken out of context.
Nathan Roberts of FlatEarthDoctrine posted this on Facebook, “The GLOBE earth is a distraction from preaching the Gospel! There I said it!”
Seriously? The early church wasn’t distracted when they preached the Gospel all over the Roman Empire. The Protestant Reformers weren’t distracted when they preached the Gospel. The preachers of the Great Awakening weren’t distracted when they preached the Gospel.
And guess what? None of them taught that the earth is flat! People do not need to know the shape of the earth, to understand the Gospel message!
The irony of his statement is that people who believe that the earth is a globe, don’t spend their time trying to convince people about that. But flat earthers spend a lot of time talking about the flat earth in their Facebook flat earther groups, posting about it on Facebook, making YouTube videos, making blog posts, etc.
Nathan Roberts is a divider! He seems to love that role! You see that in the flat earth community, where he attacks Rob Skiba and others for their beliefs. You see it in his comments to me and other people who don’t believe that the earth is flat.
Sadly, Nathan Roberts is wrong about the shape of the earth, which makes it all that much worse. The “Over 200 Bible verses prove we are on a stationary and FLAT earth with a Dome over our head” that Nathan cites, are taken out of context; so his accusations is based on false theology. That’s a double fail!
Here’s a verse that I’ve shared with Nathan several times on his ‘Bible Says Flat Earth, Prove Me Wrong’ video series; which proves that the earth is a globe:
Ecclesiastes 1:6 is saying that the wind goes south and then turns north in a continual circuit (circle) around the earth. That only seems plausible with a globe earth, as we can see that the wind would simply be going around the globe, alternatively moving south, them north, then south, etc.
On the flat earth model, the wind would go south, but then hit the glass dome and be dispersed in all directions. There’s no clear path for the wind to only deflect north, to return to the central point of the flat earth, and then move south again; in a continuous circuit.
Flat earthers cite the previous verse, Ecclesiastes 1:5 to proclaim that the sun is moving; but they ignore that it says that the sun is rising and setting. “The sun also ariseth, and the sun goeth down, and hasteth to his place where he arose.”
The sun does not rise on the flat earth model, it stays at the same altitude.
Ecclesiastes 1:6 proclaims that the wind goes around the earth from north to south, then south to north, then north to south; in a continuous circuit.
Ecclesiastes 1:5 is proclaiming that the sun goes from east to west, in a continuous circuit around the globe earth; so that the sun arises in the same place the next day.
The “Over 200 Bible verses prove we are on a stationary and FLAT earth with a Dome over our head” that Nathan cites are taken out of context; so his accusations is based on false theology. That’s a double fail!
Nathan Roberts of FlatEarthDoctrine posted a video called ‘Pastors OKAY with Science casting doubt on God’s Word’.
Flat earthers deny all of the science which backs up the globe earth, yet they have no proven science of their own. All of their lame explanations are done with CGI graphics.
What is the scientific explanation for how the sun changes its path, to move from the larger circle of the Tropic of Capricorn (32,729 mile circumference) to the much smaller circle of the Tropic of Cancer (18,504 mile circumference)?
And what is the scientific explanation for how the sun changes speed from 1,322 MPH on the larger circle to 771 MPH on the smaller circle, to complete exactly one revolution per day? Please comment below.
Note: the numbers for the tropics are based on the supposed flat earth map, not on the globe. The supposed flat earth map is distorted, as it’s a north-polar azimuthal equidistant projection of the globe earth. So though the Tropics on the globe earth have a circumference of 22,847 miles, on the flat earth map they are distorted. Using the equator as a baseline at 24,901 miles in circumference; the numbers of the Tropic of Cancer (18,504 miles) and the Tropic of Capricorn (32,729 miles) are based on the geometry of the azimuthal projection; not the actual globe.
How do you explain why the continent of Australia is so distorted on your supposed flat earth map and it appears to be 3,525 miles wide, when we know from actual geodesic measurements that it’s 2,500 miles wide? Please comment below.
Seriously, they have no pictures of the glass dome. They have no pictures of the edge of the earth. They have no pictures of the flat earth from high in the sky, to show all of the land masses. And all of their explanations are pseudoscience.
Yet Nathan Roberts has the audacity to make accusations against brothers and sisters in Messiah, who believe that the earth is globe-shaped.
The saddest part is that most of the “Over 200 Bible verses prove we are on a stationary and FLAT earth with a Dome over our head” that Nathan cites are taken out of context; so his accusations is based on false theology. That’s a double fail!
