Astronomy Proves The Flat Earth Deception

This website exposes the flat earth deception and proves that the earth is globe shaped.

This page provides astronomy proofs that the earth is ball shaped, and is surrounded by stars and planets. We won’t focus on NASA images and information, as they have been accused of being fake.

Instead we will focus on astronomy sources that have no agenda, other than the study of the stars, moon, sun, planets and galaxies.

Questions for flat earthers: What is the scientific explanation for the curved shadow on the moon during a lunar eclipse? If you believe that the sun illuminates the moon, then what is blocking the suns rays from hitting the moon?  If you don’t believe that the sun illuminates the moon, then what is causing the moon to appear this way?

Questions for flat earthers: What is the scientific explanation for the curved shadow on the moon during a lunar eclipse?  What is blocking the sun and caused the curved shadow?

Please comment on the bottom of this page with your answer. Thank you!

The constellations Octans, which is closest to the Southern Pole star, is visible to people who are in southern continents, who are all facing south.  That’s not possible on the flat earth map!

I believe that the evil ones are having NASA publish pictures which can be proven to be fake, so that flat-earthers proclaim that it is part of the cover up.

But fake NASA images and missions, in and of themselves, do not prove the flat earth. Of course they use CGI to create nice photos, they admit as such.

Anyone can buy the SkyView Explore The Universe and Satellite Guide apps to use on their phone, to know where to look in the sky to view planets and satellites. That in itself disproves flat-earthers proclamation that there are no planets or satellites.

Stellarium is a free open source planetarium for your computer, showing you where to look for planets and constellations. It shows a realistic sky in 3D, just like what you see with the naked eye, binoculars or a telescope.

Add in all of the professional and amateur astronomy photographs of the planets and stars, such as Astronomers Without Borders, and you remove all doubt.

Here’s a superb demonstration of how verifiable observations in the real world do not work on a Flat Earth but make perfect sense on the Globe.

Why don’t the stars show up on images of the moon, and of earth from the ISS?

Here’s a video of the star trails which were recorded from the Equator.

If the earth were flat, then there would only be one circle of stars; but we can clearly see two opposing circles, which proves that the Earth is a globe.

People in the Southern Hemisphere can’t see Polaris, the North Star; because the curve of the globe earth prevents them from seeing it.

People in the Southern Hemisphere can't see Polaris, the North Star; because the curve of the globe earth prevents them from seeing it.

People in the Southern Hemisphere can all look South and see Alpha Crucis, but that is not possible on the flat earth model.

People in the Southern Hemisphere can all look South and see Alpha Crucis, but that is not possible on the flat earth model.

People in the Southern Hemisphere can all look South and see the South Celestial Pole star, Sigma Octantis, which is only possible on a globe earth.

On the flat earth model, if people in Australia, South Africa and South America, were all facing South, they would be facing opposite directions, so there is no way that they can all see the South Celestial Pole star, which does not move.

Yet people in those three Southern Hemisphere continents can look South and see the South Celestial Pole star, and see the stars circling around it.

On the flat earth model, if people in Australia, South Africa and South America, were all facing South, they would be facing opposite directions. Yet people in those three Southern Hemisphere continents can look South and see the South Celestial Pole star, and see the stars circling around it. This proves that the North and South Pole stars are at the top and bottom of the ball of lights, and the other stars are circling the globe Earth.

Stars circling the South Celestial Pole from Sydney, Australia

South Pole Star from Sydney Australia proves the globe Earth

Stars circling the South Celestial Pole from Reunion Island, South Africa

South Pole Star from Reunion Island, South Africa proves the globe Earth

Stars circling the South Celestial Pole from Santiago, Chile

South Pole Star from Santiago Chile proves the globe Earth

This proves that the North and South Pole stars are at the top and bottom of the Earth, and the other stars are circling the globe Earth.

This proves that the North and South Pole stars are at the top and bottom of the Earth, and the other stars are circling the globe Earth.

An Equatorial Mount on a Telescope will allow you to track the Sun and Stars with a single axis of rotation.

If an object is moving in circles above a flat Earth this would be completely impossible. You would require two axes of movement to follow it.

Flat earthers use images like this to proclaim that planets are fake. 

Many of them are from a Nikon P900, which a great little camera with a big zoom lens; but it has a small aperture, so it is not designed to take pictures of small bright objects, such distant stars and planets.

The problem is simply that the P900 cannot focus on a small point light source. So what we are seeing is planets that are blurred and out of focus. And since it’s essentially a point light source it forms an “orb” shape, commonly referred to as Bokeh.

Flat earth planet images

There are Astronomy societies all around the world, who show through optical telescopes the stars, moon, sun, planets and galaxies.

To say that they are all part of the flat earth conspiracy is ridiculous!

Astronomers Without Borders features photos from people around the world.

Hamilton Amateur Astronomers is a non-profit organization dedicated to the enjoyment and advancement of astronomy. It is the largest independent astronomy club in Canada.

Here is a link to the Denver Astronomy Society and the Colorado Springs Astronomical Society, as a few examples.

Find a local group who will let you look through their telescopes, to see the planets; to prove that what flat earthers teach is not true.

In The Sky virtual planetarium uses your location to let you know where to look in the sky for constellations and planets.

Anyone can buy the SkyView Explore The Universe and Satellite Guide apps to use on their phone, to know where to look in the sky to view planets and satellites.

The Virtual Telescope Project lets you use a remote telescope to view the planets,  solar system, star clusters, nebulae and galaxies.

Here is a link to their Virtual Telescope Project photo gallery.

There are many Astrophotographers, such as http://www.astropix.com/index.html

This video needs no explanation; it simply and quickly illustrates the biggest problem for the Flat Earth model of the Earth. There is no math involved, it is easy to verify for yourself, and anyone can understand the problem from a single view of this video.

.Many Bible verses point to the stars of the Mazzaroth, so they are real.

When Elohim was questioning Job, He pointed out His command of the Mazzaroth, the twelve signs in the circle of the Zodiac.

Do you bind the bands of Kimah (Pleiades), or loosen the cords of Kesil (Orion)? Do you bring out the constellations (Mazzaroth ) in its season? Or do you lead the Bear (Arcturus) with its sons? Job 38:31-32

The great plan of redemption was told through the stars, long before written records were in place.  It is defined with star groups and the names of individual stars.

The heavens (Mazzaroth) are proclaiming the esteem of Ěl; And the expanse is declaring the work of His hand.

Day to day pours forth speech, And night to night reveals knowledge.

There is no speech, and there are no words, Their voice is not heard.

Their line (ecliptic) has gone out through all the earth, And their words to the end of the world. In them He set up a tent for the sun (picture of Yahusha, the Sun of Righteousness, Malachi 4:2),

And it is like a bridegroom coming out of his room, It rejoices like a strong man to run the path.

Its rising is from one end of the heavens, And its circuit to the other end; And naught is hidden from its heat. Psalms 19:1-6

The enemy, Satan, has perverted the story of redemption by causing pagan empires to create alternative stories about the stars.

He has caused believers to shun any knowledge of the zodiac, as he has conditioned them to believe that it is evil.

But the constellations of the Zodiac were created by your Father in heaven, to declare His love for you, and to declare His plan of redemption.

He appoints the number of the stars, He gives names to all of them.” Psalm 147:4

God’s Voice in the Stars – Zodiac Signs And Bible Truths by Ken Fleming

2 Kings 23:5 clearly proclaims the existence of planets; which flatearthers deny:

And he put down the idolatrous priests, whom the kings of Judah had ordained to burn incense in the high places in the cities of Judah, and in the places round about Jerusalem; them also that burned incense unto Baal, to the sun, and to the moon, and to the planets, and to all the host of heaven.”

The Southern Cross is only visible to those in the southern hemisphere.

The south celestial pole can be located from the Southern Cross (Crux) and its two “pointer” stars α Centauri and β Centauri. Draw an imaginary line from γ Crucis to α Crucis—the two stars at the extreme ends of the long axis of the cross—and follow this line through the sky.

Southern Cross only in southern hemisphere

Either go four and a half times the distance of the long axis in the direction the narrow end of the cross points, or join the two pointer stars with a line, divide this line in half, then at right angles draw another imaginary line through the sky until it meets the line from the Southern Cross. This point is 5 or 6 degrees from the south celestial pole. Very few bright stars of importance lie between Crux and the pole itself, although the constellation Musca is fairly easily recognized immediately beneath Crux.

Flat Earth’s Greatest Challenge: Southern Stars

If you were in Alaska and looked towards the North Star you would see that star remain roughly stationary and all the other stars will circle it like seen in the time lapsed photos here: www.guidescope.net/starfields/circles.htm if you were in South Africa, you will not be able to see the North Star (because the spherical earth is in the way), but if you look due south, you will see the circle of the stars go in the opposite direction.

If you are at the equator, you can see something even different (look north and see the stars moving counter clockwise and look south and see them moving clockwise). http://physics.weber.edu/schroeder/ua/StarMotion.html

The crescent shape of the moon appears inversely between people in the northern and southern hemispheres.

If Earth is flat, how can billions of people see two different sets of constellations rotating in opposite directions, around two opposite poles?

How can people in the southern hemisphere essentially stand in a circle with their backs to each other, and all be facing the same southern constellation?

If 2 people in Australia and South America are standing with their backs to the north pole, and therefore facing in different directions, how are they all able to see the southern pole star (Sigma Octantis)?

If Earth is flat, how can billions of people see two different sets of constellations rotating in opposite directions, around two opposite poles?

The Southern Cross cannot be seen in both New Zealand and South Africa on the Flat Earth.

South Africa is in the same time zone as Germany, but at night Germans see the North Star while South Africans are viewing the Southern Cross. The Southern cross is also seen by those in New Zealand. It is only possible on a round earth as they can see the same sky.

 Only on a globe earth can people in South Africa and New Zealand see the Southern Cross

The question, begs, since all out of the outer part of the flat earth is supposedly ‘south’, where is the Southern Cross located at?

No matter where you put it, it would not be possible for people in South Africa and New Zealand to both see it, as they are one opposite sides of the supposed flat earth.

People in New Zealand and South Africa cannot both see the southern cross.

 

Flat earthers have no way to explain these 2017 celestial events, which we can see with our eyes:

February 26: Annular Solar Eclipse

March 20: Spring Equinox, when the sun will rise due East, and set due West, because the Sun is so far away that every location has the same basic angle to the sun.  This is not possible on the flat earth, as people in the Northern hemisphere would have a very different angle that people in the Southern hemisphere.

April 22/23: Lyrid Meteor Shower

May 5/6: Eta Aquarid Meteors

June 9: Micromoon, when the Full Moon is at apogee, the farthest point from Earth, making June’s Strawberry Moon a Micromoon. This Full Moon looks around 12 to 14% smaller than its counterpart, the Supermoon.

July 3: Earth at Aphelion, when Earth will be at aphelion: the furthest point from the Sun in its yearly orbit.

August 7/8: Partial Lunar Eclipse

August 12/13: Perseid Meteors

August 21: Total Solar Eclipse

September 22: Fall Equinox, when the sun will rise due East, and set due West, from every location on earth, because the Sun is so far away that every location has the same basic angle to the sun.  This is not possible on the flat earth, as people in the Northern hemisphere would have a very different angle that people in the Southern hemisphere.

October 8: Draconid Meteor Shower

October 20/21: Orionid Meteors

November 17/18: Leonid Meteor Shower

December 3/4: Supermoon, when the full moon looks around 12 to 14% larger than its counterpart, the Micromoon.

December 13/14: Geminids Meteors

December 23/24: Ursid Meteors

The great astronomers of history:

The story that Christians believed in a flat earth until Columbus’ time, and for some time thereafter, began as part of a fictional story that was elevated to historical fact by late 19th-century Darwinists who used it primarily as a means to ridicule Christians.

The spherical shape of the earth was known to the ancient Greeks, who even made some good estimates of its circumference and, contrary to the claims of the flat-earth myth perpetuators, was never lost.

One well-known example is Eratosthenes who measured the earth’s diameter fairly accurately in the 3rd century BC.30 Eratosthenes calculated the circumference using geometry to within 3.5% of the true value.

The ancient Greek experimenters knew its shape by evaluating a variety of evidences, including the earth’s shadow during a lunar eclipse and the changing sky as one travels northward and southward.1 The ancients knew much about astronomy because they spent a great deal of time studying the heavens and stars for navigation purposes and because of their strong interest in astrology.

Claudius Ptolemy (85-165 A.D., Greek) was an astronomer who used Hipparchus’ extensive observations to develop a model that predicted the movements of the Sun, Moon, planets, and stars. His model, called the Ptolemaic system, visualized an Earth-centered universe and assumed that all astronomical objects move at constant speeds in circular orbits. The circle was considered by the ancients to be the perfect shape, and regardless of the evidence against circular orbits, Ptolemy built his model to fit this idea. The Ptolemaic model is one of the longest upheld scientific theories in history: it was the cornerstone of astronomy for 1,500 years.

Aristotle (384-322 B.C., Greek), the great philosopher, proved that the Earth is spherical, and believed that it was at the center of the universe. His reason for believing this was actually quite scientific: he knew that if the Earth revolved around the Sun, then we should see the stars shift position throughout the year. Since he did not have the technology to detect this shift, as we do today, he concluded that Earth must rest at the center of the universe. According to him, the Sun, planets, and stars were located in spheres that revolved around the Earth.

Anaximander (611-547 B.C., Ionian) was a Greek philosopher who made the first detailed maps of the Earth and the sky. He knew that the Earth was round, and believed that it was free-floating and unsupported. He measured its circumference, and was the first to put forward the idea that celestial bodies make full circles in their orbits. One of his greatest contributions was the fact that he was the first to conceptualize space as having depth.

AT THE TIME OF THE RISE OF THE JESUITS, INTERESTING!

Nicolaus Copernicus (1473-1543, Polish) began a new era of astronomy when he concluded that the Sun was the center of the universe instead of the Earth. Copernicus felt that the Ptolemaic system was contrived, but in his revisions of that model, he kept the orbits circular. The revolutionary idea was not popular with the Church, but several other astronomers such as Brahe and Galileo helped to eventually prove that this model of the universe more accurately portrayed reality.

Tycho Brahe (1546-1601, Danish) built an observatory from which he made the most accurate astronomical observations up to that time. His observatory contained sophisticated equipment for mapping star positions, and for more than 20 years he made detailed records of his findings. He believed that the universe was a blend of the Ptolemaic and Copernican models, and created his own model in which the planets orbit the Sun and the Sun orbits the Earth.

Giovanni Cassini (1625-1712, Italian) was the astronomer who first discovered the division in the rings of Saturn, today known as the Cassini division. He also found four moons orbiting Saturn, and measured the periods of rotation of Mars and Jupiter. The Cassini space mission currently on its way to Saturn was named after him.

Galileo Galilei (1564-1642, Italian) is the father of observational astronomy. In 1609, he heard about the Dutch invention of the telescope, and built one for himself. Even though his telescope was not very powerful compared to the amateur equipment available today, he was able to make a number of stunning discoveries which changed the face of astronomy. He saw the craters, mountains, and valleys of the Moon, noticed the huge number of stars making up the Milky Way, kept precise records of sunspot activity and the phases of Venus, and discovered four moons orbiting Jupiter. These moons are still called the Galilean Moons today, in honor of the earth-shattering scientific effects of the discovery. During a time when the Earth was still considered to be at the center of the universe, he publicized the fact that other astronomical bodies, such as Jupiter’s moons, were clearly revolving around something other than the Earth. Galileo’s support of the Copernican model of the universe frightened the Church, which put Galileo on trial in 1633. He was forced to renounce his Copernican views and was held under house arrest for the rest of his life.

William Herschel (1738-1822, British) was the discover of Uranus and two of its moons. He also discovered two more moons of Saturn and several asteroids, and made a catalog of 2,500 astronomical objects. He found the polar ice caps on Mars, which are today being studied by several satellites in the hopes of shedding light on the existence of water on Mars.

Annie Jump Cannon (1863-1941, American) was a member of the famous group of Harvard astronomers called ‘Pickering’s Women’. The director of the Harvard College Observatory, Edward Pickering, hired a number of women to sort through and organize mounds of data on the stellar classification of stars. The stars were classified by their spectra, and Annie Cannon was the most prolific and careful of the workers. She single-handedly classified 400,000 stars into the scheme we use today (O B A F G K M), and discovered 300 variable stars. She paved the way for women entering the astronomical field.

Henry Russell (1877-1957, American) was the one inventor of the Hertzsprung-Russell diagram describing the spectral types of stars. He measured the parallax of the stars photographically, allowing them to be properly placed on the H-R diagram.

Edwin Hubble (1889-1953, American) made an incredible contribution to astronomy and cosmology when he discovered that faraway galaxies are moving away from us. Known as Hubble’s Law, the theory states that galaxies recede from each other at a rate proportional to their distance from each other. This concept is a cornerstone of the Big Bang model of the universe.

Jan Oort (1900-1992, Dutch) first measured the distance between our solar system and the center of the Milky Way Galaxy and calculated the mass of the Milky Way. An enormous contribution of his was the proposal of a large number of icy comets left over from the formation of the solar system, now known as the Oort Cloud.

References for more study:

How Polaris Proves the Earth is Round
https://debunkingflatearth.blogspot.de/2016/02/debunking-flat-earth-how-polaris-proves.html

ASTROPHOTOGRAPHY THIERRY LEGAULT http://www.astrophoto.fr/

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93 thoughts on “Astronomy Proves The Flat Earth Deception”

  1. I think its ironic that you use the bible for a whole part of this debunk but at the same time you mention people that were basically Satanists as having worked out everything.

    A lot of those Greeks were just that.

    It seems to me that when these people talk to spirits those spirits seem to be the ones spewing the Globe earth to me, even ppl like Queen Victoria would get advice from spirits to make decisions….

    The world is basically run by secret societies… and to me is clear they benefit from a Globe.

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  2. the question itself is tricking you,.. the Sun doesnt illuminate the moon dummy, it has it own source proven by the intensity of its output

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    • Please explain to me how the moon illuminates itself? What powers it? And how does it create the different phases every 29.5 days?

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  3. I’m very happy to read your book today. I have been delving into flat earth topics for a few years. I am not Christian exclusively, though I believe in the glory and beauty of Christ. I am Vaishnava, a Krishna devotee. In our community this topic has created a lot of doubt and debate, not necessary a bad thing. The Supreme scripture is called Srimad Bhagavatam which seems to propose a flat Earth, yet the recognized study of cosmology and astronomy is Surya Siddhanta which delinates a geocentric globe Earth. So it is with happiness I find your work, because I kept saying, ‘these proofs prove geocentrism, not necessarily the shape of the Earth.’. The Earth is not moving so is flat. Science studies one assertation at a time and it is amazing how it is mixed up. One guy said… a globe that doesn’t move.. I have never heard of that before! As if it is globe and spinning, or flat and still. Your study of the Bible equates with Surya Siddhanta, the Vedic study of cosmology. And I believe the Bible and Bhagavatam are essentially studies of our one true Lord. The Jesuits, Illuminati, et al, need to lie to two sets of people; the orthodox and the rebels. The rebels will be impressed with what seems most abnormal, excitedly embracing anything unorthodox. I know a lot of sincere people who are flat earthers. From my research I concluded that the Earth is in the centre of the universe and the stars spin around it (bhugola .. in Sanskrit means ball of stars.) Humans flip from conclusion to conclusion, extreme to extreme. It is normal for fanatic drinkers to become fanatic non-drinkers; atheists to fervent theists. To stay balanced and see the truth we need to be more calm, balanced, centred and true; not merely reactionary. Reactionaries are coerced by the same people they are adamantly against. Keep astute. Peace.

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  4. David,

    Bottom line is that all of your questions have reasonable answers from a non-globe earth perspective, and the real strength of the non-globe believers is that many of their answers have been modeled, which is real scientific evidence.

    Those that believe in the globe theory have never provided a working model of their theory, and I believe it’s highly unlikely they ever will. Until you can provide a working model, it really is just your unsupported opinion.

    Again, if you’re not a disinformation agent just trying to discredit biblical historicism by associating the earth globe stuff with it, I would ask you to remove all of your earth shape work from the internet, and stop misleading people.

    Bob

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    • Based on your logic, I understand why you believe that the earth is flat. It’s a cop-out to say that non-globe earthers have reasonable answers to my questions, because none of them have provided answers for me.

      As for a working model, Tyche Brahe made one which shows how the sun revolves around the earth, and the planets revolve around the sun. https://flatearthdeception.com/the-hidden-option-of-the-geocentric-globe-earth/

      As for being a disinformation agent, I’m just sharing what I believe to be true after carrying out my research. The irony of your statement is that flat earthers are essential disinformation agents which discredit the geocentric universe with the globe earth at the center. You’re the one who is misleading people BOB!

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  5. David,

    You asked what is causing lunar eclipses. I don’t know, and neither do you. The difference between us is that I know that I can’t know, and I’m ok with it, where you are writing books and web pages declaring that you know the truth.

    My understanding is that lunar eclipses have happened when both sun and moon are able to be seen in the sky at the same time by an observer standing on earth. I believe that this shows that what you claim to be true isn’t.

    Bob

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  6. David,

    I have to tell you that I am watching all of your vids on Daniel, Olivet Discourse, and Revelation. Found you through Walter Veith’s website. I do plan to purchase those books because I find your communication very straight forward, and refreshing.

    Anyway, I don’t think your doing yourself or anyone else any good with your flat earth and geocentric globe books. I haven’t read them, but I know that I don’t need to, and I’ll tell you why.

    David, first, we are not flat earthers, we are men and woman who who have already weighed the evidence on both sides, and arrived at the conclusion that we are being lied to.

    Second, we are not obligated to answer your questions, or anyone else’s. It’s the rulers of this place that created a theory, and manipulated all into believing it. They are responsible for answering questions.

    In the past, and now, men and women have, and are doing their own experiments, and proving, yes Dave, proving that the math our rulers have given us about the shape of the earth doesn’t work. If the math doesn’t work, their whole theory falls apart.

    Though we may speculate, we offer no theory, and we certainly aren’t coercing and indoctrinating billions of children, men, and women into believing a theory. It’s just real science that proves the theory of a heliocentric globe earth, as they have given it to us, is false. So again, they must answer the questions; they can’t.

    I look forward to your debate with a “flat earther”.

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    • Hello Bob, that’s great that you understand the historicist explanations and continue to do your research!

      I’m amazed that you think that discussing the shape of the universe is not doing anyone any good. The websites and books help people see that the heliocentric model is false, so that they can see that the enemy is deceiving the world.

      The False Doctrine Of The Flat Earth book shows that many verses that people cite to proclaim that the earth is flat, are taking out of context. That should be very important to you! https://flatearthdeception.com/biblical-proofs-of-the-globe-earth/

      I ask questions on the flat earth deceptions website for people to consider. Nobody has to answer them, but people who are seeking truth should. There is no debate, when you can be bothered to answer my questions.

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      • Dave,

        You don’t seem to be interested in the truth regarding the earth. If you were, you would address the science experiments, both past and present, that have disproved the globe theory. Until you can do that, and you can’t, and either can NASA, or anyone else, all of the other nonsense you’ve put together is meaningless.

        By mixing globe earth lies with truth, you have discredited all of your work. Maybe that was your intent all along? Maybe you’re trying to associate truth with lies to discredit the truth?

        Dave, what is your background? What’s your real name? Where were you raised? Who were your parents? Were they catholic? Were you? What is your educational background? What’s your work history? If you’re going to step up and advise/lead, then you should be shy about providing your real info. Right?

        Bob Jones

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        • Seriously Bob? I did my research, seeking truth, and wrote two books about what I found to be true; so don’t tell me that I’m not interested in truth regarding the earth.

          You haven’t read my books, but then you tell me that I’m wrong. That lacks integrity!

          You proclaim that you look forward to a debate, but you didn’t answer the proof questions on the home page. That lacks integrity!

          Even if I was wrong about the shape of the earth, it has no impact on the truth that is proclaimed in the prophecy books. If I was promoting heliocentrism and NASA, that would be a different situation. I expose the lie of heliocentrism, on which the deception of evolution is based.

          Then you make it personal by asking about my parents? My educational background? My work history? Seriously?

          I share my story on my prophecy websites. I’ve never been to a Catholic church service. I expose the Catholic Church and the Jesuit’s many deceptions. And my name is David, not Dave.

          Is Bob Jones your real name?

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          • David,

            I sent you a video doc to watch and asked if you think the scientists are lying. Still no response from you.

            Bob

          • I’ve watched plenty of videos about the shape of the earth, thanks, not interested. I’ve asked you to answer the questions on the home page and still no response from you BOB?

            What about the question on this page: What is the scientific explanation for the curved shadow on the moon during a lunar eclipse? If you believe that the sun illuminates the moon, then what is blocking the suns rays from hitting the moon? If you don’t believe that the sun illuminates the moon, then what is causing the moon to appear this way?

  7. Hi David,

    I knew the earth was not moving and water always finds level, so I just assumed we were on a plane. I see now from the star trails that we are indeed on a sphere. The 4 camera angles from one location in this video really convinced me: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UkNvRNJYCpQ

    I’m still curious about the oceans and how they remain on a ball. I guess there is no up or down in God’s realm as we know it? Or do the magnetic poles have something to do with it?

    Your research is quite impressive and so easy to follow… thank you so much for your efforts and for sharing!

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    • Hi Michele, indeed the star trails prove that we’re on a globe. Flat earthers proclaim that water always finds its level, to imply that the earth is flat. But water is only following the downward pull, to move towards a lower elevation.

      People debate about whether it’s gravity, or an electromagnetic pull, or ? Regardless of the cause, we see the effect.

      We see that one drop of water moves downward, one cup of water moves downward, one gallon of water moves downward, etc., until it can’t go any lower. Multiply that effect across the oceans and it’s simple to understand why every drop/cup/gallon of water remains on the globe earth.

      As you said, there is no up or down in space. People in the southern hemisphere are not upside-down as flat-earthers mock. Up is relative to our orientation on the earth. Down is toward the earth, up is toward the sky.

      We don’t need advanced scientific principles to understand these things, just a logical mind which accounts for what we observe.

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  8. One thing I need help on. In the geocentric model where everything revolves around the earth, how do you explain a couple things:

    Why the sun’s position in the sky changes every season, and

    Why the constellations change every three months?

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    • In the Tyche Brahe’s model of the geocentric universe, everything doesn’t revolve around the earth. The sun revolves around the earth and the planets revolve around the sun. You can see the diagram on this page: https://flatearthdeception.com/the-hidden-option-of-the-geocentric-globe-earth/

      I’m not clear on why you think that the constellations change every three months. The sun moves through the twelve primary constellations on the ecliptic, so it’s seen in one constellation at a time for about 30 days.

      I’m not the astronomy expert, you can get much more information from Robert A. Sungenis,‎ PhD, who wrote Geocentrism 101 – An Introduction into the Science of Geocentric Cosmology and many other books. And on the bottom of the geocentric globe earth page are links to other astronomy explanations.

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      • My mistake about the constellations. I just thought that the constellations were not in the exact same spot in the sky every season. I could be wrong about that too.

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  9. You just stated that the stars are circling the earth. Isn’t the globe earth model supposed to be heliocentric? Whoops.

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    • Kim, I state in the sixth paragraph of the home page “If you believe in the heliocentric universe, have you read what Moses, Job, David, and Isaiah; declared about the earth, the sun, and the stars? The Bible describes a sun that moves in a circuit, which has been stopped, and has been moved back. And it describes an earth that is fixed. The Bible is purely geocentric, and there is no Scriptural justification for the heliocentric model.”

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      • According to NASA, how many miles are we moving through space each year?….. 7 trillion or something absurd like that? Yet – all the stars are in the same locations, as they always have been, all throughout recorded history. These websites are state funded – By the jesuit schnozlesteins. 😀

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        • Well George Jetson, do you see any NASA proofs on this website? No, so why bring them up? If you paid any attention to what I teach, you would know that I believe that the universe is geocentric, so the earth is not flying through space. I think that NASA is a deceiving entity which is used to promote the evil evolution doctrine.

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