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The False Doctrine of the Flat Earth by David Nikao

If you’re a flat earther, have you studied the context of the Bible verses which are being cited to proclaim “the Bible says flat earth”?

This book goes through all 240 verses that people like Nathan Roberts cite, to show you the proper context; because if you’re promoting this list, then you’re accountable for the explanations.

It gives a fresh perspective about the ‘firmament‘ of Genesis; the ‘circle‘ of Isaiah 40:22; the clay turned to the ‘seal‘ in Job 38:13-14; the ‘pillars‘ of 1 Samuel 2:8; the sun going forth in his ‘circuit‘ of Psalms 19:6; and much more.

If you know someone who believes that the Scriptures describes a domed, flat earth; it will help you understand their rationale in citing these verses.

If you’re a believer who’s researching the flat earth, this book is critical for you.

If you believe in the heliocentric universe, have you read what Moses, Job, David, and Isaiah; declared about the earth, the sun, and the stars? The Bible describes a sun that moves in a circuit, which has been stopped, and has been moved back. And it describes an earth that is fixed. The Bible is purely geocentric, and there is no Scriptural justification for the heliocentric model.

The Bible also describes the lower circular layers which hold back the fountains of the deep; the spherical layers of atmosphere around the globe earth; the constellations on the ecliptic which encircles the globe earth; and the celestial sphere of stars which surround the globe earth as a tent, as a tabernacle.

The enemy is hiding the geocentric globe earth universe with the false narratives of the heliocentric universe and the flat earth model.

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The stars in the southern hemisphere prove that the earth is a globe.

On the flat earth model, if people in Australia, South Africa and South America, were all facing South, they would be facing opposite directions, so there’s no way that they can all see Sigma Octantis in the Octans constellation, which does not move. Yet people in those three Southern Hemisphere continents can look south and see stars circling around the south celestial pole.

On the flat earth model, if people in Australia, South Africa and South America, were all facing South, they would be facing opposite directions. Yet people in those three Southern Hemisphere continents can look South and see the South Celestial Pole star, and see the stars circling around it. This proves that the North and South Pole stars are at the top and bottom of the ball of lights, and the other stars are circling the globe Earth.

This proves that the north and south celestial pole stars are at the top and bottom of the celestial sphere, and the other stars are circling the globe Earth.

Flat-earthers proclaim that this is possible because when people are looking south, they’re seeing a reflection off of the glass dome of the stars in the northern hemisphere.

But that is a false explanation, as the stars in the northern hemisphere are different than the stars in the southern hemisphere. Here are the constellations in the northern hemisphere.

northern hemisphere stars

Here are the constellations in the southern hemisphere.

southern hemisphere stars

Question for flat earthers:  What is the scientific explanation for how the sun changes its path, to move from the larger circle of the Tropic of Capricorn (32,729 mile circumference) to the much smaller circle of the Tropic of Cancer (18,504 mile circumference)?

Question for flat earthers:  The winter solstice was on 12/21, so the sun is circling near the Tropic of Capricorn. What is the scientific explanation for how the sun changes its path, to move from the larger circle of the Tropic of Capricorn (32,729 mile circumference) to the much smaller circle of the Tropic of Cancer (18,504 mile circumference)?

And what is the scientific explanation for how the sun changes speed from 1,322 MPH on the larger circle to 771 MPH on the smaller circle, to complete exactly one revolution per day?
Please comment below.  Thank you!

Note: the numbers for the tropics are based on the supposed flat earth map, not on the globe. The supposed flat earth map is distorted, as it’s a north-polar azimuthal equidistant projection of the globe earth. So though the Tropics on the globe earth have a circumference of 22,847 miles, on the flat earth map they are distorted. Using the equator as a baseline at 24,901 miles in circumference; the numbers of the Tropic of Cancer (18,504 miles) and the Tropic of Capricorn (32,729 miles) are based on the geometry of the azimuthal projection; not the actual globe.

After a lot of research, I believe that the enemy has created a deception regarding the design of the universe.

The Illuminati card game has a Flat Earth card that says “People laugh, but the flat earthers know something”. What flat earthers know is that the earth isn’t flying through space orbiting the sun.  Astronomers and scientists have not proved that the Earth is moving.

And from our Earthly perspective, the planets and stars appear the same regardless of whether it’s the Copernican heliocentric view or the Tychonic geocentric view.

The deception is that the enemy has caused people to promote the heliocentric view based on philosophy, to not involve a Creator in the explanation of the design of the universe. And that led to the big bang theory, the theory of evolution, etc.; all of which steals glory from our Creator, and deceives people.

It wasn’t until scientific probes produced data about the radiation of the expanding universe, and the orientation of the quasars and radio galaxies; that researches were able to see that all of those things were pointing back to Earth as the center of the universe.

These findings were published in a book titled ‘Geocentrism 101 – An Introduction into the  Science of  Geocentric Cosmology‘ in 2013, and then explained in a movie called The Principle in late 2014.

Then shortly afterward the flat earth theory was aggressively pushed on YouTube and Facebook, to try to cover over the evidence, and to cause people to dismiss anyone who teaches that the Earth is geocentric.

The enemy has created a false dichotomy, so that the debate is between the geocentric flat earth vs. the heliocentric globe earth; so that people don’t consider the third option, that of the geocentric globe earth.

It puts the Earth at the center of the universe, proving a Designer/Creator, and explains why stars perfectly circle the Earth; while maintaining the laws of physics of the globe earth and the surrounding elaborate universe, which is a precision time-piece. Please read the geocentric Earth page, to see the scientific research that proves that we are at the center of the universe.

I’m not declaring that the earth is geocentric, as I can’t prove it scientifically; but when you look at how Bible verses seem to point to a geocentric earth, it’s an option that we need to consider. Read through the website, and you decide.

If you’re a flat-earther, you can decide to click away, thinking that you know the truth; but I would hope that your goal is to find the whole truth, not to defend a position.

People like Nathan Roberts and Rob Skiba point to Bible verses which they proclaim prove that the earth is flat; but the verses are taken out of context, and some of them prove that the earth is a globe.

Please read this Biblical Proofs Of The Geocentric Globe Earth study and decide for yourself.

Why would the enemy create the flat earth deception? Because most flat earthers are sharing truth in other areas, whether it’s about coming out of churchianity, about the Illuminati and their agenda, etc.; so by getting them to believe in the flat earth, they cause family and friends to stop listening to all that they teach.

On this page I will address the major challenges that I’ve found with the flat earth theory, which are explained in more detail on the other pages.

Here’s a video from the Geographic South Pole, looking straight up, which proves that the earth is not flat. 

We can see the perfect circle of stars which is only possible on the globe earth, as no point on the supposed ice ring would show the stars circling overhead.

Here’s a video of a 5-day time-lapse from March 8-13, 2017, taken from the Amundsen–Scott South Pole Station, which proves that the earth is not flat.

Airplane Video Proves Sun Is Not 3,000 Miles Above The Flat Earth

This observation is impossible on a Flat Earth with a Sun 3000 Miles above.  We can clearly see the Sun on the Horizon from 43,000 ft. The clouds beneath us are illuminated from below but are dark on top.

This geometry is impossible on a Flat Earth.  Of course – it works just fine on a Globe.

The Nikon P900 camera debunks the flat earth.

This video shows one ship that is moored near the horizon line, and the distant ship behind it which is well below the horizon; proving the curvature of the earth.

Some flat earthers commented that you should see the distant ship ’tilting’ if the Earth is curved, but the distance equates to only .23 degrees of tilt, which is not perceivable.

Sorry Flat Earthers The Equinox Geometry does NOT work on a Flat Earth.

The Flat Earth fails to explain the real observations we can make on the Equinox twice per year.

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A commercial pilot who is based out of Australia, who makes international flights in the southern hemisphere, shows that flat earthers cannot produce a legitimate pilots flight plan.

The video description says: A message to Flat Earthers. If you can’t show me a map that works and you can’t tell me how to navigate precisely around the real Earth you are wasting your time telling me the Earth is Flat. I can and do navigate precisely around the real Earth and I have been doing this safely for over 30 years using the Globe. Time to start producing real results guys. The same old nonsense arguments won’t cut it here any longer.

Flat earthers misrepresent the size of the sun, to proclaim that it gets smaller as it sets.

Flat earthers misrepresent the size of the sun, proclaiming that it is shrinking

Here’s one of Wolfie6020‘s short videos where he used two cameras to record at the same time, one with a solar filter, one without.

This video shows how the size of the sun in the hazy sky changes as the camera automatically adjusts.

Flat earthers tell us to trust our perspective, but when we do that, we see that the sun and moon do not line up with the flat earth theory.

Flat earthers proclaim that the moon is a flat disc, but that simply cannot be true.

This is so easily disproved, that it’s nonsensical for flat earthers to proclaim it.

Flat earthers proclaim that the moon is a flat disc, but that simply cannot be true.

The shadows on the moon prove that it is being illuminated from an external light source.

The sun obviously illuminates the moon, which is contrary to what flat earthers proclaim

Flat earthers cite Genesis 1:16 and say the the world ‘light‘ means that the moon is self-illuminated.

And God made two great lights; the greater light to rule the day, and the lesser light to rule the night: he made the stars also.”

The Hebrew word for ‘light’ points to a luminous body. It does not say that it provides its own illumination. ma’owr; properly, a luminous body or luminary, i.e. (abstractly) light (as an element): figuratively, brightness, i.e.cheerfulness; specifically, a chandelier:—bright, light.

Of course they have no way to scientifically explain how the moon illuminates itself, like we do for the Sun. And they cannot explain how the moon changes its illumination so that we see crescent moons and half moons.

It’s impossible for people on the flat earth model to see the same side of the moon.

People in northern and southern hemispheres would see different sides of the flat earth moon

We would see different sides of the moon, on the flat earth model.

The moon can't work properly on the flat earth

The sun and moon do not vanish as a small dot over the horizon; but rather, they rise up from under the horizon and set below the horizon.

On the flat earth, objects that are moving away would simply grow smaller and disappear at the vanishing point, but they would always stay above the horizon. But every day we see the Sun rise up from under the horizon, and set down below the horizon.

The rising moon proves the globe earth, not the flat earth

The setting sun proves the globe earth not the flat earth

It’s impossible for the sun to rise due East and set due West on the Equinox days.

The sun cannot work properly on the flat earth model.

The sun does not rise and set at the proper locations on the flat earth model.

Australia sun rises due East and sets due West on equinox, disproving flat earth theory

The paths of the 2017 and 2024 solar eclipses across the United States are impossible to explain on the flat earth model.

There is no scientific explanation for the solar eclipse on the flat earth model, and we can clearly see that the path of the eclipse across the United States, cannot match up with the circular path of the flat earth sun.

Here are the 2017 and 2024 eclipse paths overlaid on what people are calling a flat earth map. There is no way to explain how an eclipsed sun, which is circling south of the United States; could create shadows on the United States that curve in the opposite direction.

How do flat earthers scientifically predict upcoming solar and lunar eclipses? They don’t! There is no scientific data which shows what causes the eclipses (many flat earthers say that the moon doesn’t cause the solar eclipse), and when they will happen.

The Spring and Fall Equinox is a great time to prove whether the earth is flat or a globe.

Geodetic surveying shows that angles of the measured triangle exceed 180 degrees, proving that Earth is curved.  This is called ‘spherical excess’. 

Flat earthers push aside 100’s of years worth of measurements that have been recorded by geodesic surveyors all over the earth.

These surveyors have painstakingly taken measurements from point to point, and using geometry and triangulation, have determined the size of continents, and the shape of the earth. Triangulation on a flat earth would yield 180 degree sums, but surveyors have found that the sums are greater than 180 degrees, which proves the arc of the earth.  Read Geodesy Proof Of The Flat Earth Deception.

Geodetic surveying reveals that the angles of the measured triangle exceed 180 degrees, proving that the Earth is curved. This is called ‘spherical excess’. If the Earth was flat, the angles would add up to 180 degrees.

One of the biggest perspective problems is that flat earthers are applying the 8″ per mile squared earth curvature formula to wrong line.

The 8″ per mile squared calculation does not measure the curvature of the line of sight, your horizon line; it extends far beyond what you can see.

8 inch per mile squared formula for curved globe earth

One of the biggest perspective problems is that flat earthers are applying the 8" per mile earth curvature formula to wrong line.

Let’s apply this to a picture to see the difference between the level line and the horizon line.

Let's apply this to a picture to see the difference between the level line and the horizon line.

Here is the Earth’s Curve Horizon, Bulge, Drop, and Hidden Calculator, which people use to try to prove that the earth isn’t curved.  This is the default setting of the globe earth with a radius of 3,959 miles, which shows that if your view height is 6 feet, then your horizon line is 3 miles away.  And that’s pretty much what we see in real life.

Curved Earth Pythagorean theorem Formula

Most photos from flat earthers are taken from an elevated position, which extends the horizon line; so just plug the estimated height of the elevated position into the Metabunk Earth’s Curve Formula, and you will see that the horizon line matches up; proving the curved Earth.

Curved Earth Pythagorean theorem Formula viewer height

In the below calculation I used the Advanced option to add 7 zeroes after the planet radius, to mimic a planet that is so big that the flat top is bigger than the supposed flat earth. And it shows that if your view height is 6 feet, your horizon line is 9,482 miles away.

Curved Earth Pythagorean theorem Formula flat

Now of course your eyes can’t see that far, but a good telescope would be able to see across the flat plain to be able to see that far. The point is that if the earth really were flat, then you would be able to see much, much further than 3 miles.

Californians should be able to see Hawaii with a telescope, or Mt. McKinley, which is 20,000 feet high.  From atop of Pike Peaks, which is 14,000 feet high, I should be able to use a powerful telescope to see all of America.

But the reason that we can only see to the horizon line is because the earth is curved; you are seeing the bulge of the Earth.

Here is a more technical explanation of the Earth curvature formula, to see how it is being misapplied by flat earthers.

Here is a more technical explanation of the Earth curvature formula, to see how it is being misapplied by flat earthers.

There are a lot of explanations on this website which counter the flat earth explanations, but first let’s set the record straight about the map that most flat-earthers are using.

The map that flat-earthers use actually represents the globe earth!

Before computers, mapping out airplane flight routes was a challenge, as they had to use a globe, or images of the northern and southern hemispheres, like these.

Azimuthal equidistant map globes

To resolve this problem they created the azimuthal equidistant map, which allowed them to see all of the continents on one 2D map.

In order to do this, the bottom half of the globe earth had to be flared out into the outer circles. On the north-polar azimuthal projection map the northern hemisphere is shown in the inner circle, and the southern hemisphere is shown in the flared out circle that surrounds it.

The north-polar equidistant projectionmap is not a flat earth map!

These maps can be centered from anywhere.  If you were planning flights from London, you would center it on London. North-polar azimuthal projection maps were used during times of war, and the polar route is the shortest distance between countries.

Rendering a globe earth onto a 2D image always cause some distortion. On the azimuthal projection map, the further away the land mass is from the center point, the greater the distortion.  This is why Australia looks so wide, as it’s been stretched.

Since the continent of Antarctica is opposite of the North Pole on the globe earth, the only way to graphically represent it on the north-polar azimuthal projection map is by turning it inside out, and spreading it out as a white ring on the outside edge.

The South Pole is graphically represented by the outside line of the map. You can see that the white ring has several bays that match up to the Ross Sea, which is close to New Zealand; and Weddell Sea, which is close to South America.

Below is a south-polar azimuthal equidistant projection map.  You can see that Antarctica and Australia are now normal size, as they are close to the center point; but North America and Euro-Russia are very distorted.  And you can see that the outside edge is blue, because opposite of the South Pole is water on the North Pole.

Antartica south pole azimuthal map proces the flat earth theory is false

Here is a equidistant projection map that is centered on Santiago, Chile.  North and South America are normal size, as is Antarctica, since they are close to the center point; but Euro-Russia is greatly distorted, so much so that it is graphically rendered as a ring around the outside edge (just like the north-polar map).

 eqmap-santiago-chile

You can make your own azimuthal equidistant projection maps on this website. You just need to enter the location; such as 90N,0W for the north pole; and 90S, 0W for the south pole.

Here is a Hammond’s north-polar equidistant map for airplane travel, which is the same map that flat earthers use.

It has both sides of the globe represented, which are declaring that it is a projection of the globe earth onto a 2D map. You can clearly see the continent of Antarctica on the bottom of the globes in white.

Hammond's globe map is not a flat earth map

This close-up shows you that the globe declares the continent of Antarctica and the South Pole; and then again on the projection map.  It is declaring that the outside line is the South Pole.  It’s clearly telling you that the continent of Antarctica on the globe earth is represented as the white ring on the projection map.

Hammond's map declares that the ice ring is the continent of Antarctica

On the bottom left of the map is a guide to the distances between meridian (N-S) lines. The distance increases up to the equator, and then decrease at the same rate to the South Pole.  It’s declaring that though on the projection map it appears that the distances are become greater (because the southern hemisphere is flared out so that you can see it on a 2D projection map), that in fact they are getting smaller because the earth is globe-shaped.

Hammonds globe projection map meridian line distances prove that it is not a flat earth map

This Air Map Of The World from 1945 tells the truth, that the north-polar azimuthal equidistant projection represents a globe.

Notice that it doesn’t have an ice wall!  That is because they didn’t include the continent of Antarctica, because it is so greatly distorted.

azimuthal equidistant projection map is not a flat earth map

Here is the call out box on the top right:

This Air Map Of The World from 1945 tells the truth, that the north-polar azimuthal equidistant projection represents a globe.

It says “Since it is impossible to spread the surface of a globe on a flat surface without distortion, all maps are distorted in some respects.  In this map the distortion occurs in the east and west distances.  This distortion increases gradually from the North Pole to the Equator, and then quite rapidly to the outer limits.  The distortion of the Antarctic areas would be so great that these are not shown.”

So they didn’t even include the supposed ‘ice wall’, because it’s not an ice wall; it’s the continent of Antarctica, which is greatly distorted by the algorithm used to make the projection map.  Since Antarctica is opposite of the North Pole on the globe earth, the only way for the program to render it was to stretch it out as a circle.  The outer circle is the South Pole.   The continent has been inverted.

To prove that the supposed ice wall is really the distorted and inverted continent of Antarctica, here is an image that has the outer white ring and the continent of Antarctica.

The image keeps the land mass around the outside edge, and has the continent of Antarctica in the middle, as that is what is on the bottom of the globe.  The land mass is exaggerated, as the outside ring representation is exaggerated.  The continent is inverted to match the inverted outer circle, as the equidistant view is from the top down.

The flat earth map ice ring is actually antarctica

Look at the left side of the continent, which is small compared to the right side.  That matches the thin land mass of the left, compared to the right. Now look at the peninsula on the left lower side at 240 degrees.  It matches the peninsula on Antarctica.

The top of the circle is very thin and has a recess. That matches the curvature of the top of Antarctica.

On the bottom right at 110 degrees, there is a small indentation. That matches the bay on the southeast part of Antarctica.

Let’s take it one step further.  The bottom left red line shows that the meridian lines runs from the bay of Antarctica through South America. The bottom left red lines shows that the meridian line runs from the small bay runs through Asia.  The top red line shows that the meridian line runs from the other large bay in between North America and Russia.

Flat Earth map is equidistant map

The azimuthal equidistant map projection is only a tool, to help determine distances and flight maps on a globe earth.

Every time a flat-earther posts an explanation about direct airplane flights that they say is wrong on a globe earth; they are using this equidistant map, which is a globe map. Or worse, they use a Mercator projection map.

Flat earthers take words out of context to say that the Bible declares a flat earth.

They cite the words “pillars of the earth” to proclaim that the flat earth sit on top of pillars.

He raiseth up the poor out of the dust, and lifteth up the beggar from the dunghill, to set them among princes, and to make them inherit the throne of glory: for the pillars of the earth are the LORD’S, and he hath set the world upon them.” 1 Samuel 2:8

Read 1 Samuel 2:2-7, 9-10; you see that the word ‘pillars’ is referring to leaders of the earth, not physical pillars that support the flat earth.

Just like the saying that someone is a ‘pillar in the community’, it is declaring they are a strong leader. The context is clearly about Elohim raising seemingly lowly people and making them the leaders of the earth.  It is not talking about the design of the physical earth!

Flat earthers say that the ‘circle‘ in Isaiah 40:22 is declaring a flat circle earth.

It is he that sitteth upon the circle of the earth, and the inhabitants thereof are as grasshoppers; that stretcheth out the heavens as a curtain, and spreadeth them out as a tent to dwell in:

Let’s back up to get the context of the verse. Elohim is declaring the glory of His creation.

And to whom would you liken Ěl? And what likeness would you compare to Him? The workman moulds a graven image, and the goldsmith overspreads it with gold, and the silversmith casts silver chains. Isaiah 40:18-19

He is declaring that the works of man are nothing as compared to His creativity and power. Then He points out His Mazzoroth, the twelve signs in the heavenly circle, which have proclaimed His plan of redemption from the beginning.

Did you not know? Have you not heard? Has it not been declared to you from the beginning? Have you not understood from the foundations of the earth? Isaiah 40:21

Do you bring out the constellations (Mazzoroth) in its season? Or do you lead the Bear with its sons. Job 38:32

The CIRCLE in Isaiah 40:22 is the Mazzoroth in the sky above, that has 12 constellations in a circle on the ecliptic, which declare the Gospel. It is like a curtain which covers the earth, and in which the stars dwell.

The circle of Isaiah 40:22 is the ecliptic, not the flat earth circle

We see that Elohim tells them to look up to the celestial sphere (circle) of the stars of the Mazzoroth.

Lift up your eyes on high and see. Who has created these? He who is bringing out their host by number, He calls them all by name, by the greatness of His might and the strength of His power – not one is missing. Isaiah 40:26

He appoints the number of the stars, He gives names to all of them.” Psalm 147:4

So one can clearly see that when Elohim referred to the circle of the Earth, He is referring to the circle of the Mazzoroth which acts as a constant witness to those on earth, about His great power, and about His redemption plan.

The same Hebrew word, chuwg, is used in Job 22:14 to describe the circuit of heaven. “Thick clouds are a covering to him, that he seeth not; and he walketh in the circuit (chuwg) of heaven.”

Stop manipulating the Word of Elohim!  Read Biblical Proofs Of The Flat Earth Deception.

One of the most misleading things that proponents of the flat earth say is to ‘use your perspective as proof‘.

The challenge is that we are a small human on a large earth, so our perception is distorted.

We can only see so wide and far, so staring at a horizon that is only a few miles wide, we cannot see the curvature.

Flatearthers posts pictures from airplanes which seem to have a straight horizon, but when you put a line across the photo, you can see the curvature. In this image you can see the line is level with the horizon at the airplane pillar, and that there is a gap on the left and right side.

Airline pilot photo shows the curved earth

On this picture the red line is level on the left side, but you can clearly see the gap on the right side.

Airline pilot photo shows the curved earth 3

On this picture the red line is even on the sides, and you can see the curve of the earth in the center.

Supposed flat earth airplane image

Flatearthers counter by claiming that airplanes have curved glass that distorts the horizon.
Do you really think that airplanes would have glass in the cockpit that distorts the pilots view?
Does the windshield in your car cause the horizon to curve?  No!

Flat-earthers push aside the witness and photos of countless astronomers throughout the years and around the world, who have taken pictures of the planets and distant galaxies.

They proclaim that there are no real planets, and that they are just projections or lights. There are astronomy clubs at many schools and astronomy groups in most major cities, who take pictures of the moon, stars, planets and distant galaxies. There is just no way that all of that is a conspiracy to hide the flat earth theory.

You can buy phone apps that show you where to look in the sky for planets, so that you know where to look with your optical telescope.

You can visit astronomy clubs and they will let you look through their optical telescopes, to see the planets and distance galaxies for yourself.  There is simply no excuse for this laziness!

Read Astronomy Proves The Flat Earth Deception.

Flat earthers push aside the witness of people who work in companies that use satellites.

They proclaim that there are no satellites, but that everything is done through cables or ground-based antennas.

  • Meteorologists around the world use satellites to show storms like hurricanes.
  • Hughes Satellite internet service can’t work with cables or land-based antennas, as the locations that receive the signals are too remote.
  • Navstar GPS works in remote areas through satellites.
  • Look at a house with the Dish Network, Echostar, DirectTV. What direction is the dish pointed to? The sky!!!
  • Look at a remote-location TV news crew, where is their dish pointed to?  The sky!
  • Sirius radio provides signals to you when you are far away from ground based antennas
  • Look at remote military units and military facilities to see where their dishes are pointed to.  The sky!

To deny satellites is to deny the existence of a space program covering the US, EU, Russia, China, India, Brazil, employing tens of millions of people and spending tens of billions of dollars a year, putting satellites in orbit, sending probes everywhere, creating the GPS system, satellite TV, etc.

It would mean that all of that is faked, on an ongoing basis, and none of these tens of millions of people has ever exposed the lie. Read Satellites Prove The Flat Earth Deception.

They push aside the many people who have been to Antarctica as a researcher or tourist.

Flat earthers proclaim that the ice ring is protected so that nobody can see the end of the flat earth. But that is ludicrous as people visit every year for research and for tourism.

Read Antarctica Proves The Flat Earth Deception

So why is the flat earth a topic these days? 

More and more people on Facebook and YouTube are promoting the flat earth theory, with ridiculous explanations that prove nothing. Many of these people expose other conspiracies that have been foisted upon us; and they expose the truth about the Father and Son’s true names, about the Holy Feast Days, corrupt Bibles, etc.

So I believe that the enemy is getting them to believe in the flat-earth theory, so that others will discount all that they are proclaiming. It’s called a PSYOP, a Psychological Operation.

I think that flat-earthers are going to make everyone so tired of hearing about it, that people will not seek any of the truths that they share.  Many of them opening condemn everyone who doesn’t believe it, calling them fools and globeheads.

The story that Christians believed in a flat earth until Columbus’ time, and for some time thereafter, began as part of a fictional story that was elevated to historical fact by late 19th-century Darwinists who used it primarily as a means to ridicule Christians. Sadly that appears to be happening again, as truthers who proclaim the flat earth are being ridiculed.

I hope that this page has helped to open your eyes to the truth, that the earth is a globe.

If you have some insight to prove that what I have shown is not correct, please comment below. If you just want to make statements, without any proof; or if you just want to make accusations against me; then your comment may not be added to the discussion.

David

p.s. My explanations are logical, and are based on what we can see.  I don’t offer scientific explanations, because that is not my strength. Sadly, I see flat earthers mocking scientific explanations about the globe earth, but giving really unscientific answers.

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  1. I’m sorry…”research proves that the entire universe is aligned with the sun-earth eliptic”?? Have you lost it entirely? No. Absolutely wrong. What you are referring to, are anomalies in the homogenous CMB which geocentrists like to misrepresent. The “axis of evil” within the CMB, after decades of further research, has been debunked by way of scientific consensus saying that these anomalies, while noticeable, give no real evidence of anything. They CERTAINLY do not prove the Earth or the Solar system is the “center” of anything. Absolutely MINISCULE temperature variations in the CMB, as we know, can be the result of the tiniest of occurrences at decoupling, and those anomalies could ALSO have become encoded into the CMB long after decoupling, and could be Secondary or late-time anisotropies. The CMB is already *known* to be affected as its data travels through the universe to us.
    While there’s only a small chance as calculated by our science that these occurrences are totally random, they ARENT half as astounding as you pretend they are. They dont actually line up with the sun earth ecliptic OR the Solar system.
    The quadrupole to the equinox is 23.1°
    The octopole to the equinox is 17.6°
    The quadrupole to the dipole is 28.5°
    The quadrupole to the octopole is 7.7°
    The dipole to the equinox is well known and is 14.1°
    The dipole to the ecliptic plane is 11.1°
    The quadrupole to the ecliptic plane is 16.0°
    The octopole to the ecliptic plane is 8.6°

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    • You miss the point of the website. People who believe in the heliocentric earth aren’t searching for flat earth proofs, so most won’t find this website. It’s flat earthers who need to understand that the earth is a globe. What you said all sounds great, but it really proves nothing. I’ll side with Scripture which declares that the earth immovable and that the sun is moving.

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  2. Also, friend…Im not sure yet what youre referring to…but nothing about the CMB or quasars is pointing “to earth being the center of the universe”. That’s not how this works. The Earth is only the center of our observable universe. That does not mean, at all, that the Earth is at the center of the universe. There is a big difference between the particle horizon (or the cosmological horizon) and the actual size of the universe. The CMB marks the point at which anything, including light, could have reached an observer (us) in the age of the universe. There is a solution for the so called horizon problem- inflation. Every point in the universe has its OWN observable universe. We are NOT the center of anything but our own sphere of possible observation that follow the laws of physics, whatever they may be.

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  3. At first I was relieved, and also somewhat disturbed to find your site. Disturbed at the fact that people feel it is necessary to create these sites, to overshadow the rampant real and fake flat earth nonsense online…Then I read the main page, and discovered, to my dismay, you arent stupid enough to believe in a flat earth, and provide all the proofs of a globe earth…But you unfortunately have been duped into believing in a geocentric universe, likely again, for the SAME reasons as flat earthers- because you cannot reconcile the accepted model of our universe with your faith.
    Sad, very sad. I do appreciate anyone pointing out false dichotomies wherever they may be, in any field or topic, but you’ve got to be kidding. Friend…the earth DOESN’T NEED to be the center of the universe, or the galaxy, or anything else, for your faith in a creator to exist
    Your idea of the creator simply needs adjusting. I will never understand people like yourself who believe scientific fact and faith are mutually exclusive. I will continue exploring your site, because I am of the mind that my knowledge is never complete, but guy, you really need to think further…A globe geocentric universe is just as wrong as a flat earth geocentric model.
    Now, don’t get it twisted, I am ALL FOR unpopular theories- if there is evidence for them. For example I’m a supporter of pilot wave (debroglie-bohm mechanics) theory. But this? Come on, guy…

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    • You make a lot of statements, but provide no proof that the earth is heliocentric and not geocentric. As this page shows, recent findings from space proves point to the earth as the center of the universe.

      Scientists proclaim that from our earthly perspective we can’t tell the different between the heliocentric model, and the geocentric model in which the sun revolves around the earth and the planets revolve around the sun.

      These Scriptures proclaim that the Lord caused the sun and moon to stand still, as a sign. That means that that the sun is normally moving. That means that it’s not at the center of the universe, and that it’s revolving around the earth.

      “Then spake Joshua to the LORD in the day when the LORD delivered up the Amorites before the children of Israel, and he said in the sight of Israel, Sun, stand thou still upon Gibeon; and thou, Moon, in the valley of Ajalon. And the sun stood still, and the moon stayed, until the people had avenged themselves upon their enemies. Is not this written in the book of Jasher? So the sun stood still in the midst of heaven, and hasted not to go down about a whole day. And there was no day like that before it or after it, that the LORD hearkened unto the voice of a man: for the LORD fought for Israel.” Joshua 10:12-14

      “The sun and moon stood still in their habitation: at the light of thine arrows they went, and at the shining of thy glittering spear.” Habakkuk 3:11

      So science and Scripture are telling the same story. And the enemy has a built-in reason to hide the truth, to hide that earth is at the center, which proves the Creator.

      I’ll stick with my beliefs thanks.

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  4. What about the water on a globe? How can water stand up at a 90 degree angle? Water always seeks its level. That is why we call it sea level, not sea curve. If the earth is a globe, why don’t we call the horizon, curvizon. Because it is level not curved.

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    • It’s easy to see why you’re a flat earther, because your explanations are nonsensical.

      In what circumstance does water stand up at a 90 degree angle?

      Sea level is a measure of altitude, so it applies on the flat earth model and the globe earth model.
      Denver is 5,280 feet above sea level. So saying that if the earth is a globe, then it should be called ‘sea curve’ is nonsensical.

      The definition of ‘horizon’ is “the line or circle that forms the apparent boundary between earth and sky.”

      What you fail to understand is that the horizon line that you see, appears at the exact place that the curvature formula of the globe earth says that it will appear.

      If the earth were flat, you would be able to see much further.

      Perspective Proves The Flat Earth Deception

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  5. Thank you for putting up this website. There is a verse from the book of Hosea that says God used similitudes in order to explain His creation to us, which I believe might be helpful for Bible students to consider:

    Hosea 12:10 I have also spoken by the Prophets, and I have multiplied visions, and used similitudes, by the ministry of the Prophets.

    This verse has helped me greatly with this topic as it clearly says that the Creator of the Universe chose to explain things to us by using similitudes. Therefore it makes sense that we will need to ask to be shown the meaning of the similitudes through the Holy Spirit, in order that God’s similitudes may be correctly understood. so that we don’t misunderstand the meaning of the text.

    For instance, “the four corners of the world” is clearly a similitude, for the 4 directions i.e. North, East, South and West, etc. Peace.

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  6. Tony, assuming the Earth IS spinning, everything is spinning right along with it. It is a constant speed, not increasing or decreasing. It is the same as being in a car or plane that is traveling at a constant speed. You don’t feel it, it’s as if you are sitting still. When a plane takes off, it is already spinning with the earth. Next time you are a passenger in a car, and the car is traveling at a constant speed, toss anything up in the air. It will fall straight back down. The item stays at the same speed as you and the car. Now toss it up on the dash. Do you have to throw it super fast to counter act the speed of the car? No, of course not. Same goes for planes.

    I again ask… why are continents on ALL flat maps distorted in one way or another? Why is there no accurate map of the flat earth? Why are NONE of the continents on a globe distorted? Can’t you see that Australia is severely distorted on flat maps? Can’t you see that Greenland, for instance, on Google maps is severely distorted? In reality it is about 1/12th the size of Africa, but, Google shows it almost as big as Africa. Why do you think that is? Furthermore, just zoom out and scroll down to the bottom of Google maps. WHY WOULD GOOGLE SHOW ANTARCTICA AS A CIRCUMVENTING ICE WALL IF THEY ARE TRYING TO KEEP IT A SECRET??? The further south one looks on a flat earth map, the more the distortion. That is why Antarctica appears to be a wall of ice on a flat DISTORTED map. Can’t you see that Google Maps is distorted at the top and the bottom of the display? Why do you think that is? WHY DON’T THEY JUST DISPLAY A MAP OF THE FLAT EARTH??? Holy cr*p. Sorry, David.

    I conclude, THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS A FLAT EARTH MAP! The answer to all the above questions is, and can only be, because the earth is a globe. Prove me wrong. Do I have to offer $10,000?
    TJ

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  7. If earth is spinning at 1,000 mph, how can plane flying at 300-500 mph in same direction of the spinning of earth ever reach its destination? Logically, the plane will never make it to the destination; it’s like cat chasing its own tail and fall off the table. If the earth is flat and round like frying pan, does it still provide curvature? If earth is flat and square like baking pan, will it not appear curved?

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    • If you read the home page, you see that I don’t think that it’s spinning, as I think that the globe earth is geocentric.

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  8. Troy, thank you for sharing your opinion without resorting to insult or vulgarity. Here is my opinion. You have no proof of anything you just said. You are ignoring the one single question I ask of you… Why is there no accurate map of the flat earth? You don’t need a telescope, or NASA or space travel or conspiracy theories. Will you answer the question? All I am asking you to do is show me an accurate map of what you want me to believe in.

    Furthermore, I have seen the redness of Mars and the rings of Saturn with my own telescope. They were not blurry dots. Yes, the stars are just dots, but, you can see the planets fairly clearly. And, if you take David’s advice, you will be amazed.

    What I want you to consider is the possibility that Yahweh went to unimaginable, enormous lengths just for us to be here. He did so for one simple reason… love. We are to be amazed that we live on the surface of a planet hurdling through space, and that He provided just the right conditions, and that we have not found any other planets that even come close to ours… and its perfection. You know what IS perfect in the universe? A circle. Yes, just like Scripture says. And a sphere is circular. We live in 3 dimensions and a sphere is a 3 dimensional circle!!!

    Now, take this one step further. What else did Yahweh do to show us He loves us? He sacrificed His one and only Son. This means Yahweh’s sacrifice of His own Son is an even bigger display of love than the creation of the entire universe! Don’t deny Him this majesty. Don’t limit the the great and awesome power of our creator by placing us in a terrarium.

    In addition to David’s very excellent evidence of the size of the sun and moon, please tell me why I should not accept the fact that when I measure distances on a globe, the results match EXACTLY to real on-the-ground measurements? Why are NONE of the countries on a globe distorted?

    TJ

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  9. I have read that you are saying that the destruction of Jerusalem was the abomination of desolation. However, there are those who say the abomination was Antiochus Epiphanes.

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    • Messiah foretold that the sign of the Abomination of Desolation would happen in that generation, in the 1st century; so it’s not possible that it was fulfilled by Antiochus Epiphanes.

      Antiochus Epiphanes was the Little Horn of Daniel 8, who with his army surrounded Jerusalem in 171 BC, so that prophecy described a similar scenario; but it was not what Messiah was pointing to in His Olivet Discourse. He was pointing to the pagan Romans, who were an abomination to the Jews, who came to desolate the temple, city and Jews.

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