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The False Doctrine of the Flat Earth by David Nikao

If you’re a flat earther, have you studied the context of the Bible verses which are being cited to proclaim “the Bible says flat earth”?

This book goes through all 240 verses that people like Nathan Roberts cite, to show you the proper context; because if you’re promoting this list, then you’re accountable for the explanations.

It gives a fresh perspective about the ‘firmament‘ of Genesis; the ‘circle‘ of Isaiah 40:22; the clay turned to the ‘seal‘ in Job 38:13-14; the ‘pillars‘ of 1 Samuel 2:8; the sun going forth in his ‘circuit‘ of Psalms 19:6; and much more.

If you know someone who believes that the Scriptures describes a domed, flat earth; it will help you understand their rationale in citing these verses.

If you’re a believer who’s researching the flat earth, this book is critical for you.

If you believe in the heliocentric universe, have you read what Moses, Job, David, and Isaiah; declared about the earth, the sun, and the stars? The Bible describes a sun that moves in a circuit, which has been stopped, and has been moved back. And it describes an earth that is fixed. The Bible is purely geocentric, and there is no Scriptural justification for the heliocentric model.

The Bible also describes the lower circular layers which hold back the fountains of the deep; the spherical layers of atmosphere around the globe earth; the constellations on the ecliptic which encircles the globe earth; and the celestial sphere of stars which surround the globe earth as a tent, as a tabernacle.

The enemy is hiding the geocentric globe earth universe with the false narratives of the heliocentric universe and the flat earth model.

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The stars in the southern hemisphere prove that the earth is a globe.

On the flat earth model, if people in Australia, South Africa and South America, were all facing South, they would be facing opposite directions, so there’s no way that they can all see Sigma Octantis in the Octans constellation, which does not move. Yet people in those three Southern Hemisphere continents can look south and see stars circling around the south celestial pole.

On the flat earth model, if people in Australia, South Africa and South America, were all facing South, they would be facing opposite directions. Yet people in those three Southern Hemisphere continents can look South and see the South Celestial Pole star, and see the stars circling around it. This proves that the North and South Pole stars are at the top and bottom of the ball of lights, and the other stars are circling the globe Earth.

This proves that the north and south celestial pole stars are at the top and bottom of the celestial sphere, and the other stars are circling the globe Earth.

Flat-earthers proclaim that this is possible because when people are looking south, they’re seeing a reflection off of the glass dome of the stars in the northern hemisphere.

But that is a false explanation, as the stars in the northern hemisphere are different than the stars in the southern hemisphere. Here are the constellations in the northern hemisphere.

northern hemisphere stars

Here are the constellations in the southern hemisphere.

southern hemisphere stars

Question for flat earthers:  What is the scientific explanation for how the sun changes its path, to move from the larger circle of the Tropic of Capricorn (32,729 mile circumference) to the much smaller circle of the Tropic of Cancer (18,504 mile circumference)?

Question for flat earthers:  The winter solstice was on 12/21, so the sun is circling near the Tropic of Capricorn. What is the scientific explanation for how the sun changes its path, to move from the larger circle of the Tropic of Capricorn (32,729 mile circumference) to the much smaller circle of the Tropic of Cancer (18,504 mile circumference)?

And what is the scientific explanation for how the sun changes speed from 1,322 MPH on the larger circle to 771 MPH on the smaller circle, to complete exactly one revolution per day?
Please comment below.  Thank you!

Note: the numbers for the tropics are based on the supposed flat earth map, not on the globe. The supposed flat earth map is distorted, as it’s a north-polar azimuthal equidistant projection of the globe earth. So though the Tropics on the globe earth have a circumference of 22,847 miles, on the flat earth map they are distorted. Using the equator as a baseline at 24,901 miles in circumference; the numbers of the Tropic of Cancer (18,504 miles) and the Tropic of Capricorn (32,729 miles) are based on the geometry of the azimuthal projection; not the actual globe.

After a lot of research, I believe that the enemy has created a deception regarding the design of the universe.

The Illuminati card game has a Flat Earth card that says “People laugh, but the flat earthers know something”. What flat earthers know is that the earth isn’t flying through space orbiting the sun.  Astronomers and scientists have not proved that the Earth is moving.

And from our Earthly perspective, the planets and stars appear the same regardless of whether it’s the Copernican heliocentric view or the Tychonic geocentric view.

The deception is that the enemy has caused people to promote the heliocentric view based on philosophy, to not involve a Creator in the explanation of the design of the universe. And that led to the big bang theory, the theory of evolution, etc.; all of which steals glory from our Creator, and deceives people.

It wasn’t until scientific probes produced data about the radiation of the expanding universe, and the orientation of the quasars and radio galaxies; that researches were able to see that all of those things were pointing back to Earth as the center of the universe.

These findings were published in a book titled ‘Geocentrism 101 – An Introduction into the  Science of  Geocentric Cosmology‘ in 2013, and then explained in a movie called The Principle in late 2014.

Then shortly afterward the flat earth theory was aggressively pushed on YouTube and Facebook, to try to cover over the evidence, and to cause people to dismiss anyone who teaches that the Earth is geocentric.

The enemy has created a false dichotomy, so that the debate is between the geocentric flat earth vs. the heliocentric globe earth; so that people don’t consider the third option, that of the geocentric globe earth.

It puts the Earth at the center of the universe, proving a Designer/Creator, and explains why stars perfectly circle the Earth; while maintaining the laws of physics of the globe earth and the surrounding elaborate universe, which is a precision time-piece. Please read the geocentric Earth page, to see the scientific research that proves that we are at the center of the universe.

I’m not declaring that the earth is geocentric, as I can’t prove it scientifically; but when you look at how Bible verses seem to point to a geocentric earth, it’s an option that we need to consider. Read through the website, and you decide.

If you’re a flat-earther, you can decide to click away, thinking that you know the truth; but I would hope that your goal is to find the whole truth, not to defend a position.

People like Nathan Roberts and Rob Skiba point to Bible verses which they proclaim prove that the earth is flat; but the verses are taken out of context, and some of them prove that the earth is a globe.

Please read this Biblical Proofs Of The Geocentric Globe Earth study and decide for yourself.

Why would the enemy create the flat earth deception? Because most flat earthers are sharing truth in other areas, whether it’s about coming out of churchianity, about the Illuminati and their agenda, etc.; so by getting them to believe in the flat earth, they cause family and friends to stop listening to all that they teach.

On this page I will address the major challenges that I’ve found with the flat earth theory, which are explained in more detail on the other pages.

Here’s a video from the Geographic South Pole, looking straight up, which proves that the earth is not flat. 

We can see the perfect circle of stars which is only possible on the globe earth, as no point on the supposed ice ring would show the stars circling overhead.

Here’s a video of a 5-day time-lapse from March 8-13, 2017, taken from the Amundsen–Scott South Pole Station, which proves that the earth is not flat.

Airplane Video Proves Sun Is Not 3,000 Miles Above The Flat Earth

This observation is impossible on a Flat Earth with a Sun 3000 Miles above.  We can clearly see the Sun on the Horizon from 43,000 ft. The clouds beneath us are illuminated from below but are dark on top.

This geometry is impossible on a Flat Earth.  Of course – it works just fine on a Globe.

The Nikon P900 camera debunks the flat earth.

This video shows one ship that is moored near the horizon line, and the distant ship behind it which is well below the horizon; proving the curvature of the earth.

Some flat earthers commented that you should see the distant ship ’tilting’ if the Earth is curved, but the distance equates to only .23 degrees of tilt, which is not perceivable.

Sorry Flat Earthers The Equinox Geometry does NOT work on a Flat Earth.

The Flat Earth fails to explain the real observations we can make on the Equinox twice per year.

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A commercial pilot who is based out of Australia, who makes international flights in the southern hemisphere, shows that flat earthers cannot produce a legitimate pilots flight plan.

The video description says: A message to Flat Earthers. If you can’t show me a map that works and you can’t tell me how to navigate precisely around the real Earth you are wasting your time telling me the Earth is Flat. I can and do navigate precisely around the real Earth and I have been doing this safely for over 30 years using the Globe. Time to start producing real results guys. The same old nonsense arguments won’t cut it here any longer.

Flat earthers misrepresent the size of the sun, to proclaim that it gets smaller as it sets.

Flat earthers misrepresent the size of the sun, proclaiming that it is shrinking

Here’s one of Wolfie6020‘s short videos where he used two cameras to record at the same time, one with a solar filter, one without.

This video shows how the size of the sun in the hazy sky changes as the camera automatically adjusts.

Flat earthers tell us to trust our perspective, but when we do that, we see that the sun and moon do not line up with the flat earth theory.

Flat earthers proclaim that the moon is a flat disc, but that simply cannot be true.

This is so easily disproved, that it’s nonsensical for flat earthers to proclaim it.

Flat earthers proclaim that the moon is a flat disc, but that simply cannot be true.

The shadows on the moon prove that it is being illuminated from an external light source.

The sun obviously illuminates the moon, which is contrary to what flat earthers proclaim

Flat earthers cite Genesis 1:16 and say the the world ‘light‘ means that the moon is self-illuminated.

And God made two great lights; the greater light to rule the day, and the lesser light to rule the night: he made the stars also.”

The Hebrew word for ‘light’ points to a luminous body. It does not say that it provides its own illumination. ma’owr; properly, a luminous body or luminary, i.e. (abstractly) light (as an element): figuratively, brightness, i.e.cheerfulness; specifically, a chandelier:—bright, light.

Of course they have no way to scientifically explain how the moon illuminates itself, like we do for the Sun. And they cannot explain how the moon changes its illumination so that we see crescent moons and half moons.

It’s impossible for people on the flat earth model to see the same side of the moon.

People in northern and southern hemispheres would see different sides of the flat earth moon

We would see different sides of the moon, on the flat earth model.

The moon can't work properly on the flat earth

The sun and moon do not vanish as a small dot over the horizon; but rather, they rise up from under the horizon and set below the horizon.

On the flat earth, objects that are moving away would simply grow smaller and disappear at the vanishing point, but they would always stay above the horizon. But every day we see the Sun rise up from under the horizon, and set down below the horizon.

The rising moon proves the globe earth, not the flat earth

The setting sun proves the globe earth not the flat earth

It’s impossible for the sun to rise due East and set due West on the Equinox days.

The sun cannot work properly on the flat earth model.

The sun does not rise and set at the proper locations on the flat earth model.

Australia sun rises due East and sets due West on equinox, disproving flat earth theory

The paths of the 2017 and 2024 solar eclipses across the United States are impossible to explain on the flat earth model.

There is no scientific explanation for the solar eclipse on the flat earth model, and we can clearly see that the path of the eclipse across the United States, cannot match up with the circular path of the flat earth sun.

Here are the 2017 and 2024 eclipse paths overlaid on what people are calling a flat earth map. There is no way to explain how an eclipsed sun, which is circling south of the United States; could create shadows on the United States that curve in the opposite direction.

How do flat earthers scientifically predict upcoming solar and lunar eclipses? They don’t! There is no scientific data which shows what causes the eclipses (many flat earthers say that the moon doesn’t cause the solar eclipse), and when they will happen.

The Spring and Fall Equinox is a great time to prove whether the earth is flat or a globe.

Geodetic surveying shows that angles of the measured triangle exceed 180 degrees, proving that Earth is curved.  This is called ‘spherical excess’. 

Flat earthers push aside 100’s of years worth of measurements that have been recorded by geodesic surveyors all over the earth.

These surveyors have painstakingly taken measurements from point to point, and using geometry and triangulation, have determined the size of continents, and the shape of the earth. Triangulation on a flat earth would yield 180 degree sums, but surveyors have found that the sums are greater than 180 degrees, which proves the arc of the earth.  Read Geodesy Proof Of The Flat Earth Deception.

Geodetic surveying reveals that the angles of the measured triangle exceed 180 degrees, proving that the Earth is curved. This is called ‘spherical excess’. If the Earth was flat, the angles would add up to 180 degrees.

One of the biggest perspective problems is that flat earthers are applying the 8″ per mile squared earth curvature formula to wrong line.

The 8″ per mile squared calculation does not measure the curvature of the line of sight, your horizon line; it extends far beyond what you can see.

8 inch per mile squared formula for curved globe earth

One of the biggest perspective problems is that flat earthers are applying the 8" per mile earth curvature formula to wrong line.

Let’s apply this to a picture to see the difference between the level line and the horizon line.

Let's apply this to a picture to see the difference between the level line and the horizon line.

Here is the Earth’s Curve Horizon, Bulge, Drop, and Hidden Calculator, which people use to try to prove that the earth isn’t curved.  This is the default setting of the globe earth with a radius of 3,959 miles, which shows that if your view height is 6 feet, then your horizon line is 3 miles away.  And that’s pretty much what we see in real life.

Curved Earth Pythagorean theorem Formula

Most photos from flat earthers are taken from an elevated position, which extends the horizon line; so just plug the estimated height of the elevated position into the Metabunk Earth’s Curve Formula, and you will see that the horizon line matches up; proving the curved Earth.

Curved Earth Pythagorean theorem Formula viewer height

In the below calculation I used the Advanced option to add 7 zeroes after the planet radius, to mimic a planet that is so big that the flat top is bigger than the supposed flat earth. And it shows that if your view height is 6 feet, your horizon line is 9,482 miles away.

Curved Earth Pythagorean theorem Formula flat

Now of course your eyes can’t see that far, but a good telescope would be able to see across the flat plain to be able to see that far. The point is that if the earth really were flat, then you would be able to see much, much further than 3 miles.

Californians should be able to see Hawaii with a telescope, or Mt. McKinley, which is 20,000 feet high.  From atop of Pike Peaks, which is 14,000 feet high, I should be able to use a powerful telescope to see all of America.

But the reason that we can only see to the horizon line is because the earth is curved; you are seeing the bulge of the Earth.

Here is a more technical explanation of the Earth curvature formula, to see how it is being misapplied by flat earthers.

Here is a more technical explanation of the Earth curvature formula, to see how it is being misapplied by flat earthers.

There are a lot of explanations on this website which counter the flat earth explanations, but first let’s set the record straight about the map that most flat-earthers are using.

The map that flat-earthers use actually represents the globe earth!

Before computers, mapping out airplane flight routes was a challenge, as they had to use a globe, or images of the northern and southern hemispheres, like these.

Azimuthal equidistant map globes

To resolve this problem they created the azimuthal equidistant map, which allowed them to see all of the continents on one 2D map.

In order to do this, the bottom half of the globe earth had to be flared out into the outer circles. On the north-polar azimuthal projection map the northern hemisphere is shown in the inner circle, and the southern hemisphere is shown in the flared out circle that surrounds it.

The north-polar equidistant projectionmap is not a flat earth map!

These maps can be centered from anywhere.  If you were planning flights from London, you would center it on London. North-polar azimuthal projection maps were used during times of war, and the polar route is the shortest distance between countries.

Rendering a globe earth onto a 2D image always cause some distortion. On the azimuthal projection map, the further away the land mass is from the center point, the greater the distortion.  This is why Australia looks so wide, as it’s been stretched.

Since the continent of Antarctica is opposite of the North Pole on the globe earth, the only way to graphically represent it on the north-polar azimuthal projection map is by turning it inside out, and spreading it out as a white ring on the outside edge.

The South Pole is graphically represented by the outside line of the map. You can see that the white ring has several bays that match up to the Ross Sea, which is close to New Zealand; and Weddell Sea, which is close to South America.

Below is a south-polar azimuthal equidistant projection map.  You can see that Antarctica and Australia are now normal size, as they are close to the center point; but North America and Euro-Russia are very distorted.  And you can see that the outside edge is blue, because opposite of the South Pole is water on the North Pole.

Antartica south pole azimuthal map proces the flat earth theory is false

Here is a equidistant projection map that is centered on Santiago, Chile.  North and South America are normal size, as is Antarctica, since they are close to the center point; but Euro-Russia is greatly distorted, so much so that it is graphically rendered as a ring around the outside edge (just like the north-polar map).

 eqmap-santiago-chile

You can make your own azimuthal equidistant projection maps on this website. You just need to enter the location; such as 90N,0W for the north pole; and 90S, 0W for the south pole.

Here is a Hammond’s north-polar equidistant map for airplane travel, which is the same map that flat earthers use.

It has both sides of the globe represented, which are declaring that it is a projection of the globe earth onto a 2D map. You can clearly see the continent of Antarctica on the bottom of the globes in white.

Hammond's globe map is not a flat earth map

This close-up shows you that the globe declares the continent of Antarctica and the South Pole; and then again on the projection map.  It is declaring that the outside line is the South Pole.  It’s clearly telling you that the continent of Antarctica on the globe earth is represented as the white ring on the projection map.

Hammond's map declares that the ice ring is the continent of Antarctica

On the bottom left of the map is a guide to the distances between meridian (N-S) lines. The distance increases up to the equator, and then decrease at the same rate to the South Pole.  It’s declaring that though on the projection map it appears that the distances are become greater (because the southern hemisphere is flared out so that you can see it on a 2D projection map), that in fact they are getting smaller because the earth is globe-shaped.

Hammonds globe projection map meridian line distances prove that it is not a flat earth map

This Air Map Of The World from 1945 tells the truth, that the north-polar azimuthal equidistant projection represents a globe.

Notice that it doesn’t have an ice wall!  That is because they didn’t include the continent of Antarctica, because it is so greatly distorted.

azimuthal equidistant projection map is not a flat earth map

Here is the call out box on the top right:

This Air Map Of The World from 1945 tells the truth, that the north-polar azimuthal equidistant projection represents a globe.

It says “Since it is impossible to spread the surface of a globe on a flat surface without distortion, all maps are distorted in some respects.  In this map the distortion occurs in the east and west distances.  This distortion increases gradually from the North Pole to the Equator, and then quite rapidly to the outer limits.  The distortion of the Antarctic areas would be so great that these are not shown.”

So they didn’t even include the supposed ‘ice wall’, because it’s not an ice wall; it’s the continent of Antarctica, which is greatly distorted by the algorithm used to make the projection map.  Since Antarctica is opposite of the North Pole on the globe earth, the only way for the program to render it was to stretch it out as a circle.  The outer circle is the South Pole.   The continent has been inverted.

To prove that the supposed ice wall is really the distorted and inverted continent of Antarctica, here is an image that has the outer white ring and the continent of Antarctica.

The image keeps the land mass around the outside edge, and has the continent of Antarctica in the middle, as that is what is on the bottom of the globe.  The land mass is exaggerated, as the outside ring representation is exaggerated.  The continent is inverted to match the inverted outer circle, as the equidistant view is from the top down.

The flat earth map ice ring is actually antarctica

Look at the left side of the continent, which is small compared to the right side.  That matches the thin land mass of the left, compared to the right. Now look at the peninsula on the left lower side at 240 degrees.  It matches the peninsula on Antarctica.

The top of the circle is very thin and has a recess. That matches the curvature of the top of Antarctica.

On the bottom right at 110 degrees, there is a small indentation. That matches the bay on the southeast part of Antarctica.

Let’s take it one step further.  The bottom left red line shows that the meridian lines runs from the bay of Antarctica through South America. The bottom left red lines shows that the meridian line runs from the small bay runs through Asia.  The top red line shows that the meridian line runs from the other large bay in between North America and Russia.

Flat Earth map is equidistant map

The azimuthal equidistant map projection is only a tool, to help determine distances and flight maps on a globe earth.

Every time a flat-earther posts an explanation about direct airplane flights that they say is wrong on a globe earth; they are using this equidistant map, which is a globe map. Or worse, they use a Mercator projection map.

Flat earthers take words out of context to say that the Bible declares a flat earth.

They cite the words “pillars of the earth” to proclaim that the flat earth sit on top of pillars.

He raiseth up the poor out of the dust, and lifteth up the beggar from the dunghill, to set them among princes, and to make them inherit the throne of glory: for the pillars of the earth are the LORD’S, and he hath set the world upon them.” 1 Samuel 2:8

Read 1 Samuel 2:2-7, 9-10; you see that the word ‘pillars’ is referring to leaders of the earth, not physical pillars that support the flat earth.

Just like the saying that someone is a ‘pillar in the community’, it is declaring they are a strong leader. The context is clearly about Elohim raising seemingly lowly people and making them the leaders of the earth.  It is not talking about the design of the physical earth!

Flat earthers say that the ‘circle‘ in Isaiah 40:22 is declaring a flat circle earth.

It is he that sitteth upon the circle of the earth, and the inhabitants thereof are as grasshoppers; that stretcheth out the heavens as a curtain, and spreadeth them out as a tent to dwell in:

Let’s back up to get the context of the verse. Elohim is declaring the glory of His creation.

And to whom would you liken Ěl? And what likeness would you compare to Him? The workman moulds a graven image, and the goldsmith overspreads it with gold, and the silversmith casts silver chains. Isaiah 40:18-19

He is declaring that the works of man are nothing as compared to His creativity and power. Then He points out His Mazzoroth, the twelve signs in the heavenly circle, which have proclaimed His plan of redemption from the beginning.

Did you not know? Have you not heard? Has it not been declared to you from the beginning? Have you not understood from the foundations of the earth? Isaiah 40:21

Do you bring out the constellations (Mazzoroth) in its season? Or do you lead the Bear with its sons. Job 38:32

The CIRCLE in Isaiah 40:22 is the Mazzoroth in the sky above, that has 12 constellations in a circle on the ecliptic, which declare the Gospel. It is like a curtain which covers the earth, and in which the stars dwell.

The circle of Isaiah 40:22 is the ecliptic, not the flat earth circle

We see that Elohim tells them to look up to the celestial sphere (circle) of the stars of the Mazzoroth.

Lift up your eyes on high and see. Who has created these? He who is bringing out their host by number, He calls them all by name, by the greatness of His might and the strength of His power – not one is missing. Isaiah 40:26

He appoints the number of the stars, He gives names to all of them.” Psalm 147:4

So one can clearly see that when Elohim referred to the circle of the Earth, He is referring to the circle of the Mazzoroth which acts as a constant witness to those on earth, about His great power, and about His redemption plan.

The same Hebrew word, chuwg, is used in Job 22:14 to describe the circuit of heaven. “Thick clouds are a covering to him, that he seeth not; and he walketh in the circuit (chuwg) of heaven.”

Stop manipulating the Word of Elohim!  Read Biblical Proofs Of The Flat Earth Deception.

One of the most misleading things that proponents of the flat earth say is to ‘use your perspective as proof‘.

The challenge is that we are a small human on a large earth, so our perception is distorted.

We can only see so wide and far, so staring at a horizon that is only a few miles wide, we cannot see the curvature.

Flatearthers posts pictures from airplanes which seem to have a straight horizon, but when you put a line across the photo, you can see the curvature. In this image you can see the line is level with the horizon at the airplane pillar, and that there is a gap on the left and right side.

Airline pilot photo shows the curved earth

On this picture the red line is level on the left side, but you can clearly see the gap on the right side.

Airline pilot photo shows the curved earth 3

On this picture the red line is even on the sides, and you can see the curve of the earth in the center.

Supposed flat earth airplane image

Flatearthers counter by claiming that airplanes have curved glass that distorts the horizon.
Do you really think that airplanes would have glass in the cockpit that distorts the pilots view?
Does the windshield in your car cause the horizon to curve?  No!

Flat-earthers push aside the witness and photos of countless astronomers throughout the years and around the world, who have taken pictures of the planets and distant galaxies.

They proclaim that there are no real planets, and that they are just projections or lights. There are astronomy clubs at many schools and astronomy groups in most major cities, who take pictures of the moon, stars, planets and distant galaxies. There is just no way that all of that is a conspiracy to hide the flat earth theory.

You can buy phone apps that show you where to look in the sky for planets, so that you know where to look with your optical telescope.

You can visit astronomy clubs and they will let you look through their optical telescopes, to see the planets and distance galaxies for yourself.  There is simply no excuse for this laziness!

Read Astronomy Proves The Flat Earth Deception.

Flat earthers push aside the witness of people who work in companies that use satellites.

They proclaim that there are no satellites, but that everything is done through cables or ground-based antennas.

  • Meteorologists around the world use satellites to show storms like hurricanes.
  • Hughes Satellite internet service can’t work with cables or land-based antennas, as the locations that receive the signals are too remote.
  • Navstar GPS works in remote areas through satellites.
  • Look at a house with the Dish Network, Echostar, DirectTV. What direction is the dish pointed to? The sky!!!
  • Look at a remote-location TV news crew, where is their dish pointed to?  The sky!
  • Sirius radio provides signals to you when you are far away from ground based antennas
  • Look at remote military units and military facilities to see where their dishes are pointed to.  The sky!

To deny satellites is to deny the existence of a space program covering the US, EU, Russia, China, India, Brazil, employing tens of millions of people and spending tens of billions of dollars a year, putting satellites in orbit, sending probes everywhere, creating the GPS system, satellite TV, etc.

It would mean that all of that is faked, on an ongoing basis, and none of these tens of millions of people has ever exposed the lie. Read Satellites Prove The Flat Earth Deception.

They push aside the many people who have been to Antarctica as a researcher or tourist.

Flat earthers proclaim that the ice ring is protected so that nobody can see the end of the flat earth. But that is ludicrous as people visit every year for research and for tourism.

Read Antarctica Proves The Flat Earth Deception

So why is the flat earth a topic these days? 

More and more people on Facebook and YouTube are promoting the flat earth theory, with ridiculous explanations that prove nothing. Many of these people expose other conspiracies that have been foisted upon us; and they expose the truth about the Father and Son’s true names, about the Holy Feast Days, corrupt Bibles, etc.

So I believe that the enemy is getting them to believe in the flat-earth theory, so that others will discount all that they are proclaiming. It’s called a PSYOP, a Psychological Operation.

I think that flat-earthers are going to make everyone so tired of hearing about it, that people will not seek any of the truths that they share.  Many of them opening condemn everyone who doesn’t believe it, calling them fools and globeheads.

The story that Christians believed in a flat earth until Columbus’ time, and for some time thereafter, began as part of a fictional story that was elevated to historical fact by late 19th-century Darwinists who used it primarily as a means to ridicule Christians. Sadly that appears to be happening again, as truthers who proclaim the flat earth are being ridiculed.

I hope that this page has helped to open your eyes to the truth, that the earth is a globe.

If you have some insight to prove that what I have shown is not correct, please comment below. If you just want to make statements, without any proof; or if you just want to make accusations against me; then your comment may not be added to the discussion.

David

p.s. My explanations are logical, and are based on what we can see.  I don’t offer scientific explanations, because that is not my strength. Sadly, I see flat earthers mocking scientific explanations about the globe earth, but giving really unscientific answers.

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  1. thanks for your time AND quest to set some straight… I’ve watched too many FE videos and it’s easy to get caught up in the deception … now I’m “researching” the globe side… and thanks for bringing me back…I’m A BIG Fan of space… imagine how I felt to find out different. Exactly how FAR we’ve been out there is another whole topic..But we have to weed thru it all to find truth… just hope not get sidelined or DISTRACTED…as they want… again. THANX

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    • Thank you for your comment Timothy! I’m glad that the website is helping you find truth. By proclaiming that the flat earth is in a dome, flat earthers have limited the glory of the designs of our Creator.

      They dismiss almost everything that can be seen by powerful telescopes, which testify to the glory and awesomeness of our Creator.

      They use a Nikon P900 to say that stars aren’t real, as if a small camera can properly take an image of a distant star.

      All they have to do is find someone with a telescope, to see the stars and planets in detail.

      They dismiss the witness of people around the world who observe the amazing universe with their telescopes.

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  2. Hi David/all,

    Just like to ask you what your take is on the creative days sequence. We have…

    1st day…
    Light and dark, day and night.

    2nd day
    The firmament. God divided the waters from the waters. Waters above the firmament and waters below the firmament. The firmament He called Heaven

    3rd day
    He brought forth grass, seed and fruit according to their kinds.

    4th day.
    Let there be lights in the firmament. He placed the sun, moon and stars IN the firmament, below the waters that were already up there.

    Now I will stop there as these are the scriptures that matter the most.
    If the earth was already there, when God started His works towards His preparation for man by dividing the waters and then placed the waters above the firmament, THEN placed IN the firmament the luminaries… were we “hurtling” through space then, or, did God start the hurtling process at a later date? and if He did start that process at a later date where are the waters now that God placed above the heavens where the luminaries are now below.
    To my reasoning if the water on this very minute speck, called earth, our “plane(t)” had water taken away from it to be placed “up there”, how much water would it have had to been to be placed ABOVE the luminaries that God made, if the universe, as were told, is trillions and trillions of light years across…where’s the water.

    It says in Psalm 148 v 4 “Praise Him ye heavens of heavens and ye waters that be above the heavens” This scripture would have been written at least 2 1/2 thousand years after the creation process was complete and thats being conservative.

    So in the Psalmists eyes there is still waters up there above the heavens, then they must, if we are hurtling, by definition be hurtling too. Dont make sense thought does it, unless we are staionary, and then it does
    Whats your thoughts?

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    • My thought is that people apply their flat earther mindset to passages like that, to make it seem to proclaim that the earth is flat.

      We are only given a small glimpse, a simplistic narrative, of what happened during creation.

      Yet there are many proofs which show that the earth is not flat, thus it is not in a dome.

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  3. I appreciate your studies, thank you. I know you believe we are in the sixth bowl and war is the next step. From your studies do you believe that’s when Jesus returns to save us.

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    • It would seem that WW III will take place and push the world towards the One World Government of the 7th bowl. It makes sense that the One World Government will be allowed to form before Messiah returns, as people will be tested to see if they take the mark of the beast; if they revere (mark on forehead) and obey (mark on right hand, actions) the antichrist Pope of Rome; who will probably offer a solution to the worldwide financial collapse, so that people can buy and sell again.

      Here’s a Current And Future Events That Fulfill Bible Prophecy page where I keep track of how the world is moving towards WW III, a worldwide financial collapse and the One World Government.

      http://revelationtimelinedecoded.com/current-and-future-events-that-fulfill-bible-prophecy/

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  4. Also, as you teach there is no interruption in time for the seventy weeks. Why would there be an interruption of the time of the Feast Days? It could have been the Feast of Trumpets when the followers of Jesus escaped to Pella, the Feast of Atonement when the Temple was destroyed and the Feast of Tabernacles when the Followers of Jesus began to spread around the World preaching the Good News.

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    • The saints escaped in 66 A.D., after the first division of the Roman army left for no explained reason.

      The temple was destroyed in 70 A.D.

      The followers of Messiah began spreading around the world preaching the Good News, after Stephen was stoned to death in 34 A.D.

      So the fall feast days don’t fit the timeline.

      Besides that, the Feast Days are to be fulfilled by Messiah, His return on the Feast of Trumpets, His atonement/judgment on the Feast of Atonement, His wedding feast on the Feast of Tabernacles; and those things have not happened yet.

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    • Thank you Johnny. Hopefully my explanations are different than the typical ‘globehead’, as I keep them logical and observable. And I’m open to the geocentric position of the earth, which most people are not.

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  5. I don’t think flat earth is a psyops or it diminishes the Bible in any way. Let’s forget science and read the Bible.

    The Bible seem to promote a three tier cosmology. Heavens, Earth, and the Abyss (pergatory, hell..etc). When we go to Genesis 1:1 and reread it without trying to imagine and visualize it from the globe-earth perspective, new way of looking at the text opens up to us. We read that in the beginning God created Heaven and Earth. Right away you are probably imagining a sphere in space. Stop it. Reread it again without projecting globe-earth worldview. It sounds to me like the earth was not created in Space. Cosmos and earth are two realms which were created in the very beginning before anything else. I want you to notice that the earth was not created inside space it was create along side it. Cosmos (space) and earth seem to share equal importance in the creation. When we think of Space and Earth from a globe-earth worldview, we believe that Earth is a dust particle compared to the vastness and size of space.

    Let’s follow along. “The earth was without form and void.” This description does not sound to me like its a sphere filled with water floating in space. It sounds to me like a flat plane. It has absolutely no form, and it’s void. I can only think of one thing that can fit this description, and that is flat plane. A flat plane has no form. Any other shape has form.

    The thing is, we grew up with the globe earth worldview; we were already conditioned to not question globe earth. So, when we read the Bible we project that mindset unto Genesis 1:1 and any other verse in the Bible and imagine the Bible saying things that it may not. Next time you read the Bible, try to read it without imagining globe-earth, you start to read the Bible a little differently.

    Now, I’m not saying that the flat-earth is true, but flat-earth made me question men’s knowledge even more. I am more grounded in God’s word than I was ever before. Sure, flat earth has its set of problems from the scientific point of view, but so does globe earth. The problem is, often our Biblical authority is influenced by science. For many Christians today, science is a bigger authority on the subject of creation and other related matters than the Bible itself. When the Bible says, God created the world in seven days “…and there was morning and evening”, it is not popular to read the text as written, because the science has “proven” that the world exists billions of years. So what do the Christians scientists do? Instead of rejecting science, they start to reinterpret the Bible to unify it with science so there won’t be any disputes. So what happened is, the “day” in the Bible, is no longer a day. “Morning and Evening” are not longer morning and evening. Why? Well, because science is the authority, and if science says “billions of years” we can’t reject it, so we have to change what the Bible says.

    Most problems with Flat Earth, from the scientific perspective, have to do with how the sun, moon, and stars move around it. I understand the problems. If you read the Book of Enoch, which is not an “inspired” book, but Jude, Jesus, David and others have quoted from it. Anyways, the whole cosmological order, according to Enoch, works much different than what globe-earthers and flat-earthers say. Enoch goes in depth describing the movement of the sun, stars, and the moon. I suggest you read it to get acquainted with another perspective.

    When God visited Job (chapter 38-39) notice how God starts the discussion with Job. Job, thought he knew a lot about God’s creation, until God began asking him questions.

    4 “Where were you when I laid the earth’s foundation?
    Tell me, if you understand.
    5 Who marked off its dimensions? Surely you know!
    Who stretched a measuring line across it?
    6 On what were its footings set,
    or who laid its cornerstone—
    7 while the morning stars sang together
    and all the angels[a] shouted for joy?

    We can ask the same thing of our scientists today. Where were you guy when God laid the foundation of the earth?

    My point is, only God knows what shape the earth is, and how he created it, luckily he wrote about it for us in the Bible, let’s not question it.

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    • Thank you Ben for sharing your insight! I agree that the major problems with the flat earth theory are how the sun, moon and stars work; which is why a lot of my focus is on them. I can see how the two sides are reconciled with the geocentric globe earth. Then the passages about the earth being fixed, and the sun rising and setting, standing still, etc., make sense.

      Flat earthers proclaim that the Bible declares that the earth is flat, but most of their explanations are taken out of context.
      http://flatearthdeception.com/biblical-proofs-of-the-globe-earth/

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  6. Why does the Southern stars rotate? They rotate because they are a reflection off of the dome of the sky, this can be demostrated using mirrors placed on both sides of a spining disc tilted angled up!
    Dude, your teaching lies to people and denying the Truth of God, if you died in this willful Sin, it may be very bad for you! The Earth is flat and your a deceiver, scoffer and blind Guide! Woe is you, repent, repent, repent!

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    • So just because you can use mirrors to create a reflection of the stars on a north-polar azimuthal projection (a 2D globe map), you think that validates that the dome reflects the stars? It’s a curved dome, but somehow it doesn’t distort the reflection. Amazing!

      Of course it can be logically explained on the globe earth model, but that’s too easy!

      There’s going to be 11 different meteor showers in 2018. Please explain to me how flat earthers are able to predict the dates, and the source of the falling stars.

      Please explain to me why the full moon rises up from below the horizon and appears at full size; because if the earth was flat, it would appear as a small dot above the horizon and grow larger as it comes towards us.

      Please explain to me how we see the same side of the full moon all night, when on a flat earth we would see the front size at moonrise, the bottom when it’s overhead, and the back size at moonset.

      Please explain to me how a flat disc full moon appears as a full circle all night, because of the flat earth it would appear as an oval when it’s in the distance and once appear as a full circle when it’s overhead.

      You come here mocking me, condemning me, but you ignore all of the simple, logical proofs on this website; which prove that the earth is not flat.

      The irony is that there are much bigger issues facing believers these days, such as how the end times will play out; as the enemy has caused many deceptions.

      The end times script that the enemy has caused Christians to believe is false, and it sets them up to take the mark of the beast, which will affect their judgment.

      Most of Revelation has already been fulfilled during the last 1,900 years; as Satan has fought against Messiah and His saints. And the historical fulfillment of the prophecies in Revelation prove that the God of the Bible is the One True God.

      But I’ll bet that most flat earthers are following the false script of the enemy: waiting on a pre-trib rapture, when a 7-year Israel peace agreement is created; and that they will avoid the supposed one-man antichrist; the 3 1/2 years of great tribulation; and the Revelation seals, trumpets and bowls.

      I’ve done my research Eric. I’ve proclaimed that I’m open to the geocentric earth view. I’ve proclaimed that NASA fakes missions.

      But what I’ve found is that most explanations from flat earthers are not logical, and are non-sensical and unscientific; that they take Bible verses out of context; that they have to dismiss a massive amount of evidence of the globe earth model; that they have not taken geodesic measurements of the earth to prove that it’s flat, and they dismiss the body of geodesic measurement evidence that’s already been done, which show that arc-angles prove that the earth is curved; that they have no pictures of the dome or edge of the flat earth disc; that they post pictures from planes proclaiming the earth is flat, that when you apply a straight line to them, you see the curve; that they believe that there are security forces in planes and boats 24×7, around the 65,000 mile perimeter of the supposed ice wall, to prevent people from getting to it; that they have to believe that the flat earth is a worldwide conspiracy that has endured for thousands of years.. Sorry, none of that works for me.

      And sadly, I’ve had to find out that some Christian flat earthers are judgmental and like to call globe earthers names.

      I pray that you will search for truth, not to defend a belief!

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  7. Actually I don’t believe in any type of rapture per se. I ascribe to what Isaiah says ” your dead shall rise with my dead body etc. Isaiah says to hide ourselves in our chambers for a brief time. I hope that this all happens quickly. We who are alive will be joined with the resurrected ones here on earth. My question to David was why would Jesus still keep faith with Israel when their nation denies Him.

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    • I can’t really answer that question, based on our current situation. Perhaps things will be different in the future in Jerusalem.

      You asked me about Messiah’s return, I cited Scripture which seems to say that He will return in like manner, to how and where He ascended.

      Where else would Messiah return? Russia? America? It only makes sense that He would return to the place where He defeated the enemy with His sacrifice and resurrection.

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  8. David, that Scripture has a far wider application than its immediate context. But anyway, yes, there is nothing wrong with looking “for explanations about this world that we live in” as you say. I am all for that; but as a believer I am only contending that we do it within what is written in God’s Book!
    Remember, there is no poetry in God’s Word (as some say), for He “doeth great things and UNSEARCHABLE” Job 5.9, also He “doeth great things PAST FINDING OUT” Job 9.10, in the NT, it is said of His “ways” that they are “PAST FINDING OUT!” Rom 11.33. But this seems to be lost on CMI!

    On another note, if I may comment on your conversation with Suzanne, though I agree in part with her, the future “great tribulation” is three and one half years, Scripture NOWHERE speaks of a seven year tribulation period. Daniel’s 70th week (SEVEN YEARS) is yet future, and the second half thereof is the great tribulation. Her theology is obviously pre-millennial Dispensationalism, (any-moment rapture theology), whereas I am a historic pre-millennial believer, that is the Second Coming and the rapture (I don’t like using that word) is one and the SAME event.

    All capitalizations are for emphasis only-I am NOT shouting!

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    • Colin, Suzanne was referring to a futurisic 70th week of Daniel, when she pointed to a seven year tribulation. But the 70th week of Daniel has already been fulfilled, after the 69th week, from 27-34 A.D.

      The concept of a futuristic 70th week of Daniel is a deception from the Jesuits of Rome, who created it to deflect blame away from the Popes, as the Protestant Reformers had rightly identified them as the Son of Perdition and the antichrist beast.

      There is no future 7-year tribulation period, as the 70th week of Daniel was fulfilled on time, after the 69th week; when Messiah and His disciples confirmed with the Jews (for seven years) that He is the promised Messiah who ratified the everlasting covenant with His blood, as the Passover Lamb.

      The seven years ended after the Jewish leaders stoned Stephen to death, marking their final rejection of their promised Messiah. Then the book of Acts clearly shows a dramatic shift, as the Gospel was also preached to the Gentile nations.

      Here’s a study series that proves it out with Scripture http://70thweekofdaniel.com

      Every prophecy that points to a 1,260 days of great tribulation, have already been fulfilled. Here’s a study that shows the fulfillment. http://revelationtimelinedecoded.com/times-of-great-tribulation-in-bible-prophecy/

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